El Miz news

[RedDwarf 1881]

This is the problem with loan players . They can become an integral part of the team and then we could lose them . It feels like having the rug pulled out from under our feet . The best example of this was Edin Jakupovic . Closing in on promotion in 2014 and he got recalled by Hull . I honestly believe that losing him at such a crucial time of the season cost us promotion that year. I now find myself wanting us to keep both Idris and Shaq.

[Monkey Boy]

Whilst both players would be a miss,there’s always players out there and it’s up to the clubs scouts to keep tabs on them. I do agree about loan players,we are going to have to find a permanent replacement for Vigs at some point.If my memory serves me right? I think I can remember Wellens promotion team Swindon being littered with loanees. It’s a way of getting players on the cheap or cheaper and not having to commit to a 2 year deal. It’s the Orient way

[OyinbO]

This is the problem with loan players . They can become an integral part of the team and then we could lose them . It feels like having the rug pulled out from under our feet . The best example of this was Edin Jakupovic . Closing in on promotion in 2014 and he got recalled by Hull . I honestly believe that losing him at such a crucial time of the season cost us promotion that year. I now find myself wanting us to keep both Idris and Shaq.

It's the downside of Orient's new strategy to become more of a nursery for other Club's talent. On the one hand you get loan players who contribute to title wins: El-Miz, Kelman, Turns, Sadlier, Smyth... on the other hand, as you say, you risk losing them. Although Eldin was emergency injury cover, and the loans we rely on these days tend to be longer-term arrangements (with El Miz even extending into a second season, which is pretty unprecedented)

[RedDwarf 1881]

This is the problem with loan players . They can become an integral part of the team and then we could lose them . It feels like having the rug pulled out from under our feet . The best example of this was Edin Jakupovic . Closing in on promotion in 2014 and he got recalled by Hull . I honestly believe that losing him at such a crucial time of the season cost us promotion that year. I now find myself wanting us to keep both Idris and Shaq.

It's the downside of Orient's new strategy to become more of a nursery for other Club's talent. On the one hand you get loan players who contribute to title wins: El-Miz, Kelman, Turns, Sadlier, Smyth... on the other hand, as you say, you risk losing them. Although Eldin was emergency injury cover, and the loans we rely on these days tend to be longer-term arrangements (with El Miz even extending into a second season, which is pretty unprecedented)

I agree but with one slight correction . Smyth was our player and not on loan .

[ComeOnYouOs]

It's nerve racking this transfer window, regarding ElMiz.
It would be a real result if we still have him when the window closes.
Unless of course we've bought him

[Mistadobalina]

For what it's worth and acknowledging it's quite sad that I follow Orient players on Instagram, but Mizouni shared a photo of him from the club training for the Bolton game. So hopefully we've read too much into the Portsmouth post game reaction.

[Monkey Boy]

There’s a few ways at looking at this situation,would you as the selling club be willing to let your player for nothing or get a fee in this window. My best guess would be that if he stays?both clubs have agreed a fee to be paid at the end of the season. If they can’t agree a deal then I think it could be adios amigo unfortunately. Of course then it would be down to the player himself if he’s happy with what ever deal he offered.

[RedDwarf 1881]

It's nerve racking this transfer window, regarding ElMiz.
It would be a real result if we still have him when the window closes.
Unless of course we've bought him

I completely agree . It would be wonderful if we could buy him but I'm not hopeful .

[faith1234]

Ipswich Town want stupid money

[RedDwarf 1881]

Ipswich Town want stupid money

What is their valuation for Idris ?

[OyinbO]

This is the problem with loan players . They can become an integral part of the team and then we could lose them . It feels like having the rug pulled out from under our feet . The best example of this was Edin Jakupovic . Closing in on promotion in 2014 and he got recalled by Hull . I honestly believe that losing him at such a crucial time of the season cost us promotion that year. I now find myself wanting us to keep both Idris and Shaq.

It's the downside of Orient's new strategy to become more of a nursery for other Club's talent. On the one hand you get loan players who contribute to title wins: El-Miz, Kelman, Turns, Sadlier, Smyth... on the other hand, as you say, you risk losing them. Although Eldin was emergency injury cover, and the loans we rely on these days tend to be longer-term arrangements (with El Miz even extending into a second season, which is pretty unprecedented)

I agree but with one slight correction . Smyth was our player and not on loan .

Not according to Paul Smyth!

[RedDwarf 1881]

It's the downside of Orient's new strategy to become more of a nursery for other Club's talent. On the one hand you get loan players who contribute to title wins: El-Miz, Kelman, Turns, Sadlier, Smyth... on the other hand, as you say, you risk losing them. Although Eldin was emergency injury cover, and the loans we rely on these days tend to be longer-term arrangements (with El Miz even extending into a second season, which is pretty unprecedented)

I agree but with one slight correction . Smyth was our player and not on loan .

Not according to Paul Smyth!

Yes, I know what you mean .

[BiggsyMalone]

This is the problem with loan players . They can become an integral part of the team and then we could lose them . It feels like having the rug pulled out from under our feet . The best example of this was Edin Jakupovic . Closing in on promotion in 2014 and he got recalled by Hull . I honestly believe that losing him at such a crucial time of the season cost us promotion that year. I now find myself wanting us to keep both Idris and Shaq.

Orient’a fault for allowing the loan to be broken by the parent club

[gshaw]

This is the problem with loan players . They can become an integral part of the team and then we could lose them . It feels like having the rug pulled out from under our feet . The best example of this was Edin Jakupovic . Closing in on promotion in 2014 and he got recalled by Hull . I honestly believe that losing him at such a crucial time of the season cost us promotion that year. I now find myself wanting us to keep both Idris and Shaq.

It's the downside of Orient's new strategy to become more of a nursery for other Club's talent. On the one hand you get loan players who contribute to title wins: El-Miz, Kelman, Turns, Sadlier, Smyth... on the other hand, as you say, you risk losing them. Although Eldin was emergency injury cover, and the loans we rely on these days tend to be longer-term arrangements (with El Miz even extending into a second season, which is pretty unprecedented)

They say don't fall in love with a loan player...

Remember the days when we just brought fodder in to fill the bench who had zero effect on the team? What we're doing now is far more effective and gets us quality we wouldn't otherwise be able to afford. Give me 6-12 months of El Miz over 2 years of, say Coleman any day.

The thing it does call into question is the academy as none of the post-Edwards crop seem to be getting anywhere near the level of the ones we can loan in from higher up the pyramid.

[banqo]

This is the problem with loan players . They can become an integral part of the team and then we could lose them . It feels like having the rug pulled out from under our feet . The best example of this was Edin Jakupovic . Closing in on promotion in 2014 and he got recalled by Hull . I honestly believe that losing him at such a crucial time of the season cost us promotion that year. I now find myself wanting us to keep both Idris and Shaq.

It's the downside of Orient's new strategy to become more of a nursery for other Club's talent. On the one hand you get loan players who contribute to title wins: El-Miz, Kelman, Turns, Sadlier, Smyth... on the other hand, as you say, you risk losing them. Although Eldin was emergency injury cover, and the loans we rely on these days tend to be longer-term arrangements (with El Miz even extending into a second season, which is pretty unprecedented)

They say don't fall in love with a loan player...

Remember the days when we just brought fodder in to fill the bench who had zero effect on the team? What we're doing now is far more effective and gets us quality we wouldn't otherwise be able to afford. Give me 6-12 months of El Miz over 2 years of, say Coleman any day.

The thing it does call into question is the academy as none of the post-Edwards crop seem to be getting anywhere near the level of the ones we can loan in from higher up the pyramid.

Talking of fodder. Michael Marks name springs to mind!

[Rich Tea Wellin]

This is the problem with loan players . They can become an integral part of the team and then we could lose them . It feels like having the rug pulled out from under our feet . The best example of this was Edin Jakupovic . Closing in on promotion in 2014 and he got recalled by Hull . I honestly believe that losing him at such a crucial time of the season cost us promotion that year. I now find myself wanting us to keep both Idris and Shaq.

It's the downside of Orient's new strategy to become more of a nursery for other Club's talent. On the one hand you get loan players who contribute to title wins: El-Miz, Kelman, Turns, Sadlier, Smyth... on the other hand, as you say, you risk losing them. Although Eldin was emergency injury cover, and the loans we rely on these days tend to be longer-term arrangements (with El Miz even extending into a second season, which is pretty unprecedented)

Well, the other benefit is that we’d never normally get these type of players if we didn’t loan them. The risk of losing them is balanced up with the fact you’re getting some quality players above the level you could afford

[POSHO]

Agree, so enjoyed these players whilst you can

[OyinbO]

This is the problem with loan players . They can become an integral part of the team and then we could lose them . It feels like having the rug pulled out from under our feet . The best example of this was Edin Jakupovic . Closing in on promotion in 2014 and he got recalled by Hull . I honestly believe that losing him at such a crucial time of the season cost us promotion that year. I now find myself wanting us to keep both Idris and Shaq.

It's the downside of Orient's new strategy to become more of a nursery for other Club's talent. On the one hand you get loan players who contribute to title wins: El-Miz, Kelman, Turns, Sadlier, Smyth... on the other hand, as you say, you risk losing them. Although Eldin was emergency injury cover, and the loans we rely on these days tend to be longer-term arrangements (with El Miz even extending into a second season, which is pretty unprecedented)

Well, the other benefit is that we’d never normally get these type of players if we didn’t loan them. The risk of losing them is balanced up with the fact you’re getting some quality players above the level you could afford

I think that's more or less what I was already saying?

[OyinbO]

This is the problem with loan players . They can become an integral part of the team and then we could lose them . It feels like having the rug pulled out from under our feet . The best example of this was Edin Jakupovic . Closing in on promotion in 2014 and he got recalled by Hull . I honestly believe that losing him at such a crucial time of the season cost us promotion that year. I now find myself wanting us to keep both Idris and Shaq.

It's the downside of Orient's new strategy to become more of a nursery for other Club's talent. On the one hand you get loan players who contribute to title wins: El-Miz, Kelman, Turns, Sadlier, Smyth... on the other hand, as you say, you risk losing them. Although Eldin was emergency injury cover, and the loans we rely on these days tend to be longer-term arrangements (with El Miz even extending into a second season, which is pretty unprecedented)

They say don't fall in love with a loan player...

Remember the days when we just brought fodder in to fill the bench who had zero effect on the team? What we're doing now is far more effective and gets us quality we wouldn't otherwise be able to afford. Give me 6-12 months of El Miz over 2 years of, say Coleman any day.

The thing it does call into question is the academy as none of the post-Edwards crop seem to be getting anywhere near the level of the ones we can loan in from higher up the pyramid.

True, although at least one academy prospect has been sold to a team higher up the divisions, without really troubling our first team that much. They'll take that as a win.

[Tuffers#2]

[RedDwarf 1881]

If we are about to lose Idris I hope the club has somebody else in mind we can bring in to replace him . Saying that we would be lucky to get anybody as good as him . He's going to leave a big whole in our midfield .

[OyinbO]

Suspect that Sanders will be his replacement. The salary saving will go on a wide player.

[LittleMate]

Effectively Idris has 18 months left on his Ipswich deal. His parent club don't need the money and they probably stand a better chance of getting their desired fee in the summer. Its great to hear clubs want him; shows how well he is doing but I'm not sure those that want him have the avaialble funds / budget in a January window. Only got to wait another 2 weeks to find out.....

[Hoover Attack]

Still think Ipswich will be thinking it's worth keeping him on their books and seeing if his development continues at it's current rate. Remember, this is a 22 year old kid with 1 and a half seasons of league football behind him.

[Hoover Attack]

Bizarrely, if Ipswich had been a season behind where they are now, or Idris was born 12 months earlier, he'd very likely be tearing things up for them right now.