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Mathematical safety as early as possible please then anything else is a bonus. Without those two OGs at Cheltenham we could've been looking at a very different story so mid-table and a chance to swap out fringe players for L1 quality would do nicely.
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If Orient go up with the current set up, they’ll go straight back down with single digit points.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 2:08 pmI disagree . I think we can make it into the Championship but at this moment in time I don't think the club is ready . Consolidation in League 1 for a couple of seasons and build a platform for the next step up . Saying that , obviously if we did manage to somehow pull it off this season and got promoted I'd be as happy as a pig in sh*t .BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 1:07 pmHow far do you expect Orient to go? This is Orientms level. Unless they get some very rich owners, this is the extent of it.Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 11:37 am
I was one,I said he won’t be here next season NOT because he’s a bad manager far from it but because he’s relatively young is northern based and probably wants to go as far as he can, unfortunately at this time he can only take the club so far
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I agree and that's why I said elsewhere that the club isn't ready yet for the next step up .BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 2:34 pmIf Orient go up with the current set up, they’ll go straight back down with single digit points.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 2:08 pmI disagree . I think we can make it into the Championship but at this moment in time I don't think the club is ready . Consolidation in League 1 for a couple of seasons and build a platform for the next step up . Saying that , obviously if we did manage to somehow pull it off this season and got promoted I'd be as happy as a pig in sh*t .BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 1:07 pm
How far do you expect Orient to go? This is Orientms level. Unless they get some very rich owners, this is the extent of it.
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That’s the spirit…BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 2:34 pmIf Orient go up with the current set up, they’ll go straight back down with single digit points.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 2:08 pmI disagree . I think we can make it into the Championship but at this moment in time I don't think the club is ready . Consolidation in League 1 for a couple of seasons and build a platform for the next step up . Saying that , obviously if we did manage to somehow pull it off this season and got promoted I'd be as happy as a pig in sh*t .BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 1:07 pm
How far do you expect Orient to go? This is Orientms level. Unless they get some very rich owners, this is the extent of it.
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Maybe if we all focus positive thoughts thenRedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 2:16 pmI know it's all down to money and what we can afford but we must. try all we can to keep him . Idris is an important part of our midfield .
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When Idris made it clear he wanted to come back here on loan in pre season Ling made an offer to buy him but we were miles off the Ipswich valuation, I suspect that Is because they have the option of another 12 months on his contract until June 2025 and there are a half a dozen clubs interested in buying him his price has gone up again.
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No need to be delusional. The owners have already said multiple times we need big investment to make the step up.Hedmans Header wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 2:47 pmThat’s the spirit…BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 2:34 pmIf Orient go up with the current set up, they’ll go straight back down with single digit points.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 2:08 pm
I disagree . I think we can make it into the Championship but at this moment in time I don't think the club is ready . Consolidation in League 1 for a couple of seasons and build a platform for the next step up . Saying that , obviously if we did manage to somehow pull it off this season and got promoted I'd be as happy as a pig in sh*t .
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£5.5 Million from TV, How much more would we need ?BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 3:25 pmNo need to be delusional. The owners have already said multiple times we need big investment to make the step up.Hedmans Header wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 2:47 pmThat’s the spirit…BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 2:34 pm
If Orient go up with the current set up, they’ll go straight back down with single digit points.
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Depends on how much of that will be reinvested and not paid back to current investors. Also, everyone else will be getting that money, so it doesn’t necessarily give Orient a boost.Joe315 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 3:31 pm£5.5 Million from TV, How much more would we need ?BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 3:25 pmNo need to be delusional. The owners have already said multiple times we need big investment to make the step up.
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When have any of the current Investors said that LOFC owed them money ?BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 3:48 pmDepends on how much of that will be reinvested and not paid back to current investors. Also, everyone else will be getting that money, so it doesn’t necessarily give Orient a boost.Joe315 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 3:31 pm£5.5 Million from TV, How much more would we need ?BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 3:25 pm
No need to be delusional. The owners have already said multiple times we need big investment to make the step up.
Who is everyone else ?
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I doubt any Investor will ever get much if anything back from LOFC and I'm sure they are aware of that when they sign up, any Investment is a calculated gamble and I guess the first chance of us turning a profit will be if and when we get to the championship. Sure all of our costs will go up but the prize money and TV money are far higher. So there would be a chance of a small surplus.
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Lucky they didn’t put you in charge of the sales pitch!Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 5:15 pm I doubt any Investor will ever get much if anything back from LOFC and I'm sure they are aware of that when they sign up, any Investment is a calculated gamble and I guess the first chance of us turning a profit will be if and when we get to the championship.
Every investor that followed Nigel in the door has done so with the possibility of making a big return.
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Keeping him is out of our control. If Ipswich sell him which looks likely he is going for at least 150-200k with the amount of interest. Will our owners be able to compete I don’t think so. I’ve got a feeling he has played his last game for us.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 2:16 pmI know it's all down to money and what we can afford but we must. try all we can to keep him . Idris is an important part of our midfield .
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If we can spunk £300k on Moncur, we should be able to find similar for someone of El Mizs obvious ability, importance to the team, and potential resale value.
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We don’t have that sort of money left in the January budget.Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 6:48 pm If we can spunk £300k on Moncur, we should be able to find similar for someone of El Mizs obvious ability, importance to the team, and potential resale value.
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Do you think they invested their money and expected no returns?Joe315 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 4:39 pmWhen have any of the current Investors said that LOFC owed them money ?BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 3:48 pmDepends on how much of that will be reinvested and not paid back to current investors. Also, everyone else will be getting that money, so it doesn’t necessarily give Orient a boost.
Who is everyone else ?
The 23 other league 1 teams
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Calculated gamble for what?Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 5:15 pm I doubt any Investor will ever get much if anything back from LOFC and I'm sure they are aware of that when they sign up, any Investment is a calculated gamble and I guess the first chance of us turning a profit will be if and when we get to the championship. Sure all of our costs will go up but the prize money and TV money are far higher. So there would be a chance of a small surplus.
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Making any sort of return on investment,if they EXPECT a return on investment they would be better of in stocks and shares.BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 7:16 pmCalculated gamble for what?Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 5:15 pm I doubt any Investor will ever get much if anything back from LOFC and I'm sure they are aware of that when they sign up, any Investment is a calculated gamble and I guess the first chance of us turning a profit will be if and when we get to the championship. Sure all of our costs will go up but the prize money and TV money are far higher. So there would be a chance of a small surplus.
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High risk/high return, innit.
It’s a massive gamble but the payback is potentially massive if the club get things right.
It’s a massive gamble but the payback is potentially massive if the club get things right.
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They are unlikely to get any returns, no guarantees of making money in the game, everyone knows that investing in football isn’t going to pay rich dividends unless you are very very lucky.Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 5:19 pmLucky they didn’t put you in charge of the sales pitch!Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 5:15 pm I doubt any Investor will ever get much if anything back from LOFC and I'm sure they are aware of that when they sign up, any Investment is a calculated gamble and I guess the first chance of us turning a profit will be if and when we get to the championship.
Every investor that followed Nigel in the door has done so with the possibility of making a big return.
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Surely the Returns are The Enjoyment ?BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 7:15 pmDo you think they invested their money and expected no returns?Joe315 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 4:39 pmWhen have any of the current Investors said that LOFC owed them money ?BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 3:48 pm
Depends on how much of that will be reinvested and not paid back to current investors. Also, everyone else will be getting that money, so it doesn’t necessarily give Orient a boost.
Who is everyone else ?
The 23 other league 1 teams
Why would 23 other league teams get the £5.5 million from a championship club ?
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Exactly. High risk, high reward.
If you’re a multi, multi millionaire, it’s worth throwing a couple hundred grand into something ‘fun’ like this, with the remote possibility of making a serious return if we hit Championship (or higher!)
If you’re a multi, multi millionaire, it’s worth throwing a couple hundred grand into something ‘fun’ like this, with the remote possibility of making a serious return if we hit Championship (or higher!)
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No, that’s not how investment works.Joe315 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 8:14 pmSurely the Returns are The Enjoyment ?BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 7:15 pmDo you think they invested their money and expected no returns?
The 23 other league 1 teams
Why would 23 other league teams get the £5.5 million from a championship club ?
If Orient are up, then 23 other Championship clubs. Then you have those who are big clubs and those eho have been recently relegated
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Exactly .Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 6:48 pm If we can spunk £300k on Moncur, we should be able to find similar for someone of El Mizs obvious ability, importance to the team, and potential resale value.
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I See you're doing the 25 years ago bit againBiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:07 amNo, that’s not how investment works.Joe315 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 8:14 pmSurely the Returns are The Enjoyment ?BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 7:15 pm
Do you think they invested their money and expected no returns?
The 23 other league 1 teams
Why would 23 other league teams get the £5.5 million from a championship club ?
If Orient are up, then 23 other Championship clubs. Then you have those who are big clubs and those eho have been recently relegated