Tory Watch

[Long slender neck]

£240m spent on Rwanda, asylum seekers sent: 0.

Outrageous.

[Hoover Attack]

Worth it for the votes it will secure.

That’s what it was always about.

[Daily Express bot]

£240m spent on Rwanda, asylum seekers sent: 0.

Outrageous.

300m, keep up!

Actually, there have been hundreds of civil servants and MPs flown out to Rwanda but not one illegal immigrant.

[Dunners]

Worth it for the votes it will secure.

That’s what it was always about.

Even that's backfiring on them. The recently revised net immigration figures are a real problem for the Tories amongst their grassroots and target voters. And they can see through the Rwanda plan. This is looking like it will now cost them votes.

[faldO]

[Long slender neck]

Jesus, they're not serious people are they?

[Hoover Attack]

Worth it for the votes it will secure.

That’s what it was always about.

Even that's backfiring on them. The recently revised net immigration figures are a real problem for the Tories amongst their grassroots and target voters. And they can see through the Rwanda plan. This is looking like it will now cost them votes.

Disagree, 'they' can't see through the Rwanda plan, they think it's the way forward.

It's inevitable downfall will be blamed on leftie lawyers, the wokerati, European Courts, liberal do-gooders, Remoaners and, of course, Labour.

[Hoover Attack]

See?

This is their only hope. Claiming immigration would be worse under Labour is all they have left.

[Dunners]

Worth it for the votes it will secure.

That’s what it was always about.

Even that's backfiring on them. The recently revised net immigration figures are a real problem for the Tories amongst their grassroots and target voters. And they can see through the Rwanda plan. This is looking like it will now cost them votes.

Disagree, 'they' can't see through the Rwanda plan, they think it's the way forward.

It's inevitable downfall will be blamed on leftie lawyers, the wokerati, European Courts, liberal do-gooders, Remoaners and, of course, Labour.

I could have worded it better - They can see through the Tories, and no longer believe that they are a legitimate party of low/negative net immigration. Which they are not.

The Tories are keeping a wary eye on the Reform UK vote share, as this has the potential to cost them votes. This threat, and the fact that they are totally burnt out, is why they will judge they have little option but to double-down on culture-war rhetoric.

[BoniO]

Our senior representative at COP28 comes home days before the end of the conference. I mean, it's not as if this is the most important part when deals might be brokered. Of course, supporting Rishi in the Rwanda vote is obviously much more important than the future of the World.

Been said so many times before, but how could any sane decent person ever vote for the Tories?

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... isis-point

[E10EU]

Sunak's latest punt in hoping to win electoral brownie points for the Tories is to send the Air Force into bombing attacks on the Houthis to 'stop them blocking trade shipping through the Suez canal'. It was said to be of such crucial importance and urgency that there was no alerting parliament.
Quite an incredible action IMO when the region is already explosive with multiple warring and destruction.
Was he trying to go by theThatcher playbook in which her Falklands war elevated her from negative polling into winning the next GE?

And just how obscene would it be to spend £millions of funds in this way when they are desperately needed here for basic human and social essentials?

[Long slender neck]

You're crazy.

[Hoover Attack]

You realise that Doing A War has been a pretty standard ploy from f*cked leaders the world over for aeons?

[Hoover Attack]

Or do you mean he's crazy for thinking that the billions being spent on missiles and bombs would have been spent on basic human and social essentials here? Agreed, if so. Of course they wouldn't.

[Long slender neck]

Its a conspiracy theory. He's posting as if trying to prevent terrorists from attacking civilian shipping is unreasonable.

[Daily Express bot]

Sunak's latest punt in hoping to win electoral brownie points for the Tories is to send the Air Force into bombing attacks on the Houthis to 'stop them blocking trade shipping through the Suez canal'. It was said to be of such crucial importance and urgency that there was no alerting parliament.
Quite an incredible action IMO when the region is already explosive with multiple warring and destruction.
Was he trying to go by theThatcher playbook in which her Falklands war elevated her from negative polling into winning the next GE?

And just how obscene would it be to spend £millions of funds in this way when they are desperately needed here for basic human and social essentials?

Starmer agrees to this policy too, especially that Parliament did not have to be consulted and recalled.

[Dunners]

Anyone seriously suggesting that the UK government wants to be poking this hornet's nest really doesn't understand what they're talking about.

Even the US administration is reluctant, and only committed to airstrikes after navy vessels were targeted by Houthis. They know full well it has the potential to make things worse (and will be used against Biden by Trump in the next election campaign).

"Doing a war" for electoral advantage only possibly worked for Thatcher in 1982. Since then it has very much ceased to be a thing, especially following the catastrophic failures of Iraq and Afghanistan.

[Hoover Attack]

Its a conspiracy theory.

[Rich Tea Wellin]

Anyone seriously suggesting that the UK government wants to be poking this hornet's nest really doesn't understand what they're talking about.

Even the US administration is reluctant, and only committed to airstrikes after navy vessels were targeted by Houthis. They know full well it has the potential to make things worse (and will be used against Biden by Trump in the next election campaign).

"Doing a war" for electoral advantage only possibly worked for Thatcher in 1982. Since then it has very much ceased to be a thing, especially following the catastrophic failures of Iraq and Afghanistan.

So, they are just incompetent then?

[Dunners]

Anyone seriously suggesting that the UK government wants to be poking this hornet's nest really doesn't understand what they're talking about.

Even the US administration is reluctant, and only committed to airstrikes after navy vessels were targeted by Houthis. They know full well it has the potential to make things worse (and will be used against Biden by Trump in the next election campaign).

"Doing a war" for electoral advantage only possibly worked for Thatcher in 1982. Since then it has very much ceased to be a thing, especially following the catastrophic failures of Iraq and Afghanistan.

So, they are just incompetent then?

Possibly. Sunak certainly is out of his depth.

But when it comes to action in the Red Sea and the Gulf of Aden there are just no good options right now.

[Mistadobalina]

The idea that limited air strikes against a Yemeni militia group 99% of the UK population won't have heard of, in an enormously complicated geopolitical situation where there is zero prospect of us putting boots on the ground, is part of some elaborate electoral strategy...

We are just doing what we always do, which is tack ourselves on to an American decision in order to retain some appearance of international relevance.

[Hoover Attack]

is part of some elaborate electoral strategy...

Throwing out a few missiles and bombs is hardly elaborate.

[Daily Express bot]

The idea that limited air strikes against a Yemeni militia group 99% of the UK population won't have heard of, in an enormously complicated geopolitical situation where there is zero prospect of us putting boots on the ground, is part of some elaborate electoral strategy...

We are just doing what we always do, which is tack ourselves on to an American decision in order to retain some appearance of international relevance.

Well those who try appeasement have always failed miserably. What do want us to do , roll over and take what these terrorists throw at us? At least Starmer has had to grow a pair and back the Government to the anguish of ‘terrorist friendly’ left wingers

[Hoover Attack]

The idea that limited air strikes against a Yemeni militia group 99% of the UK population won't have heard of, in an enormously complicated geopolitical situation where there is zero prospect of us putting boots on the ground, is part of some elaborate electoral strategy...

We are just doing what we always do, which is tack ourselves on to an American decision in order to retain some appearance of international relevance.

Well those who try appeasement have always failed miserably. What do want us to do , roll over and take what these terrorists throw at us? At least Starmer has had to grow a pair and back the Government to the anguish of ‘terrorist friendly’ left wingers

^
And you're telling me it doesn't work?

[Daily Express bot]

The idea that limited air strikes against a Yemeni militia group 99% of the UK population won't have heard of, in an enormously complicated geopolitical situation where there is zero prospect of us putting boots on the ground, is part of some elaborate electoral strategy...

We are just doing what we always do, which is tack ourselves on to an American decision in order to retain some appearance of international relevance.

Well those who try appeasement have always failed miserably. What do want us to do , roll over and take what these terrorists throw at us? At least Starmer has had to grow a pair and back the Government to the anguish of ‘terrorist friendly’ left wingers

^
And you're telling me it doesn't work?

No it is a sign of weakness, it generally does not work historically.