Give RW the funds

[Top of the JES]

Ahh dear


Why would someone get so upset over
gshaws mistaken belief that transfers were late
If he isn't trying to shutdown conversation
Then accusing Top of the Jes & me & Solomon as
The tuffers person, Is he trying to shut down 3 people &
their opinions so he can be supreme leader of this place?

Seems very much like a dictator.

Think boarders might now know who you actually are.

I'm Joe315 .

I doubt you won't stop trying to be the Dictator &
while you continually accuse people who disagree with
you of being some ex board member.
Just seems very strange that you only want certain views
to be allowed .

Exactly that Joe - The blokes ego is unbelievable - he constantly posts crap vanishes off the board until we start to get poor results and his only response when you counter his argument is to accuse posters who have been on here long before he crawled out of his hole of being someone else.

[Tuffers#2]

Again accusations against me & Others

Think boarders might now know who you actually are.

I'm Joe315 .

I doubt you won't stop trying to be the Dictator &
while you continually accuse people who disagree with
you of being some ex board member.
Just seems very strange that you only want certain views
to be allowed .

Look tuffers

I'm Joe

let’s get one thing straight, I have no problem with you or anyone else disagreeing with me what so ever a s long as they don’t get abusive and personal about it, yes I have my own views like everyone on here, doesn’t mean I’m correct but I have been privy to a lot of things that go on in clubs. Why do I say this. Because most supporters think what goes on at clubs is what they see or read about and I can categorically say that isn’t the case. Now why don’t you just use one name on here and put your point across to all the boarders in a respectful way tuffers.

I'm Joe & Only Joe

I’m sure people would take your points on board as I would.

How many people does he get to accuse ?

[Monkey Boy]

Think boarders might now know who you actually are.

I'm Joe315 .

I doubt you won't stop trying to be the Dictator &
while you continually accuse people who disagree with
you of being some ex board member.
Just seems very strange that you only want certain views
to be allowed .

Exactly that Joe - The blokes ego is unbelievable - he constantly posts crap vanishes off the board until we start to get poor results and his only response when you counter his argument is to accuse posters who have been on here long before he crawled out of his hole of being someone else.

Must be hard switching accounts tuffers

[Tuffers#2]

Think boarders might now know who you actually are.

I'm Joe315 .

I doubt you won't stop trying to be the Dictator &
while you continually accuse people who disagree with
you of being some ex board member.
Just seems very strange that you only want certain views
to be allowed .

Exactly that Joe - The blokes ego is unbelievable - he constantly posts crap vanishes off the board until we start to get poor results and his only response when you counter his argument is to accuse posters who have been on here long before he crawled out of his hole of being someone else.

I've reported him numerous times but admin doesn't seem to care .
Maybe the accusation you are not you is enough for a complaint

[Tuffers#2]

I'm Joe315 .

I doubt you won't stop trying to be the Dictator &
while you continually accuse people who disagree with
you of being some ex board member.
Just seems very strange that you only want certain views
to be allowed .

Exactly that Joe - The blokes ego is unbelievable - he constantly posts crap vanishes off the board until we start to get poor results and his only response when you counter his argument is to accuse posters who have been on here long before he crawled out of his hole of being someone else.

Must be hard switching accounts tuffers

I'm Just Joe

x

[Top of the JES]

Tbh I don't think much will change. RW has been frustrated by the late transfer activity that left us a month behind the curve fitness wise but the DoF wants to do it that way to save 1 month of wages.

Did we get better deals than "that club beginning with S" by waiting? Questionable.

So to put this late transfer bullshit to bed:- We Signed:-

1/7 Ethan Gailbraith on expiry of his Man U contract a day earlier.
1/7 Dan Agyei on expiry of his Crewe contract a day earlier.
1/7 Max Sanders on expiry of his Lincoln contract a day earlier.
5/7 Idris El Mizouni on loan from Ipswich Town.
6/7 Sam Howes from Wealdstone.
10/7 Sol Brynn from Middlesboro. This was the earliest date M'boro would allow him to join us.
21/7 Joe Pigott from Ipswich on the same day he had his contract at Portman Road ripped up.
1/8 Ed Turns on loan from Brighton 2 days after returning from Brighton's US pre season tournament.
2/8 Jordan Graham who has been talking with other clubs after his release from Birmingham. Wellen's really wanted him.
14/8 Shaq Forde from Watford after they agreed he could join.
1/9 Brandon Cooper on deadline day after injury to Beckles .

First three signed on the first day they became free agents, could not have signed any sooner.
El Miz Signed because of his excellent relationship with ML - no-one thought we could get him back but Ling got him.
Sam Howes was a bit left field as signings go.
Sol Brynn signed for us the deal had been in the making for a couple of weeks but Boro wanted him for pre season training before letting him come to us.
Joe Pigot had another season at Ipswich and had to negotiate his release and joined us the day he left Ipswich Town.
Ed Turns signed at the earliest opportunity after Brighton agreed he could return, He was in America with BHA three days prior to signing.
Jordan Graham was speaking to other clubs before we got him we had been talking to him for some time before he made his mind up to come to us.
Shaq Forde not sure how long he was in the pipeline but brought in to cover Agyei and Drinan getting injured.
Brandon Cooper signed on deadline day to give us a fourth centre back as cover.

So 9 of our 11 signing made before the season started Forde and Cooper signed before deadline day was done. It's not that they were signed late but to get decent players in a club like ours needs to be patient because we haven't got a budget to spend money on players - apart from Howes (nominal fee) all our signings were out of contract or loans. We have had terrible luck with injuries early on and it has forced our hand with the Forde and Cooper signings.

We don't put off signing players to save a months wages here and there I'm afraid there are some proper mugs on here who will believe anything, Ling commented last close season that one of our signings had delayed putting pen to paper and at least it had saved the club a months wages it was tongue in cheek but those of a limited IQ are unable to separate this from fact. it was a one off and down to the player not the club.

It's amazing how as soon as our form dips an assortment of anti Lingers - doom laden know nothings, general idiots and wind up merchants crawl out of the woodwork and jump on the bandwagon. I have every confidence that RW/ML will manage to wheel and deal in January and bring in a couple of new faces. But whatever Ling does it will never be enough.

The bit about El Miz signing in record time, when he’d been here a whole year previously, and because of his excellent relationship with Ling, made me laugh. A lot.

He was back at Ipswich after last seasons loan ended they wanted him to go to either Plymouth or Bolton - Ling spoke to him and he told ML his preference was to come back to the O's and Ling got it done - strange that you find the facts amusing.

[Top of the JES]

G Shaw making accusations about late signing and Wellen's being annoyed by them but when disproved by the facts he's gone very quite.

Monkey Boy who had not posted for some time until our form drops, unable to debate the facts and distracting away from the truth by accusing anyone who disagrees with him Tuffer's - a bit weird.

The pathetic response of so called "fans" - Ling haters whose ego's are far more important to them than the truth.

[Wally Banter]

A bad spell of form and we've definitely had the Big Four Complaints: SPEND MORE MONEY; GO 4-4-2; STOP TITTING ABOUT WITH IT; LING'S FAULT.

[Top of the JES]

But whatever Ling does it will never be enough.

Maybe he should try doing less then. Like not creating jobs for his mates and upsetting the apple cart in the process.

I don't think we needed a specific set piece coach. It clearly wasn't a great appointment and has not born any benefit. Maybe Thompson as a senior pro or Matt Harrold could have been given that responsibility.

[Hoover Attack]

But whatever Ling does it will never be enough.

Maybe he should try doing less then. Like not creating jobs for his mates and upsetting the apple cart in the process.

I don't think we needed a specific set piece coach. It clearly wasn't a great appointment and has not born any benefit. Maybe Thompson as a senior pro or Matt Harrold could have been given that responsibility.

Come on.

The reason it was done was for succession planning. The board were understandably twitchy that Richie would be poached by a bigger team and take PT with him, leaving us in the poo. Matt Harold isn't anywhere near ready to step up. McMahon has previous experience and is a more likely candidate.

Listen to Richies interview. The set piece idea was thought up after he was in the building.

[Hoover Attack]

He was back at Ipswich after last seasons loan ended they wanted him to go to either Plymouth or Bolton - Ling spoke to him and he told ML his preference was to come back to the O's and Ling got it done - strange that you find the facts amusing.

He was here all last season, presumably these discussion could have happened then....not that I have any issue with him being announced in the first week of July, obviously.

Regardless, El Miz came back here because of his relationship with Richie, it's as simple as that.

[Monkey Boy]

Harris to Cambridge, I rest my case. Jobs for the boys.

[gshaw]

G Shaw making accusations about late signing and Wellen's being annoyed by them but when disproved by the facts he's gone very quite.

Monkey Boy who had not posted for some time until our form drops, unable to debate the facts and distracting away from the truth by accusing anyone who disagrees with him Tuffer's - a bit weird.

The pathetic response of so called "fans" - Ling haters whose ego's are far more important to them than the truth.

Have only just seen this thread had a load of updates after logging in, seems there's other activity pushing stuff to top of the board. Will have a read back through tomorrow...

Edit: there's another interview somewhere that talks about the fitness being 4 weeks behind but whether it's on YouTube or Orient site I don't know. Listen back to other videos around that time, it's about needing pace and attacking players in to give us the depth required for RW style of play.



The Ling thing re: wages is a direct quote he said on a podcast, trouble with that medium is it's very hard to refer back to particular lines aside from the couple that Leyton Laureate does a transcription of.