DuvB wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 4:19 pm
'Free Palestine' is code for 'Lets kill all the Jews in Israel and occupy their land'. Pure anti-Semitism.
Utter and complete bollox. I’m sure there are plenty in Palestine who would like to kill Jews, and that’s hardly surprising given their inhumane treatment, but then again there are plenty in Israel who are happy to continue killing Palestinian civilians on an almost daily basis. Most of us don’t want anyone to die at all.
Of course some people who oppose Israel are also anti-Semitic but it’s entirely possible to oppose Israel without being anti-Semitic.
DuvB wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 4:19 pm
'Free Palestine' is code for 'Lets kill all the Jews in Israel and occupy their land'. Pure anti-Semitism.
Utter and complete bollox. I’m sure there are plenty in Palestine who would like to kill Jews, and that’s hardly surprising given their inhumane treatment, but then again there are plenty in Israel who are happy to continue killing Palestinian civilians on an almost daily basis. Most of us don’t want anyone to die at all.
Of course some people who oppose Israel are also anti-Semitic but it’s entirely possible to oppose Israel without being anti-Semitic.
Well, well, well - the terrorist barks again. At least you stay true to form with your Isis- sounding propaganda. Your last line is the refuge of all anti-semites - at last try to be original in attempting to camouflage your innate prejudice.
Evening Sunshine. Israel has been trying to sell the lie that being anti Israel is to be anti-Semitic for some time and with some success. However, it is exactly that, a big fat lie.
BoniO wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:14 pm
Me and my shadow, strolling down the Avenue…..
Evening Sunshine. Israel has been trying to sell the lie that being anti Israel is to be anti-Semitic for some time and with some success. However, it is exactly that, a big fat lie.
‘You’re all alone and feeling blue …’
Maybe it is all that pedalling of the above tropes that’s doing it.
BoniO wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:23 pm
Frankie, do you think Israel is guilty of any misconduct against Palestinians?
Yes, of course they are (in the past) and some of it is shameful.
However, this is barbarism at its absolute worst and can in no way be wrapped up as an excuse for any of Israel’s past misdeeds, real or perceived.
They have a right to exist - Hamas, Palestine and the Arab world need to acknowledge that.
Do you?
Of course. If you’d read some of my other posts and looked at posts I’d liked you would know that.
The violent incursion by Hamas is deplorable and unforgivable.
However, you state that any Israeli misconduct towards Palestinians is in the past. I find it hard to understand how you can close your eyes to the ongoing inhumane treatment and murder of Palestinian civilians.
BoniO wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:23 pm
Frankie, do you think Israel is guilty of any misconduct against Palestinians?
Yes, of course they are (in the past) and some of it is shameful.
However, this is barbarism at its absolute worst and can in no way be wrapped up as an excuse for any of Israel’s past misdeeds, real or perceived.
They have a right to exist - Hamas, Palestine and the Arab world need to acknowledge that.
Do you?
Of course. If you’d read some of my other posts and looked at posts I’d liked you would know that.
The violent incursion by Hamas is deplorable and unforgivable.
However, you state that any Israeli misconduct towards Palestinians is in the past. I find it hard to understand how you can close your eyes to the ongoing inhumane treatment and murder of Palestinian civilians.
I did try to be reasonable, but you have resorted to type.
Some very well-thought out debate on this most tragic situation. How is it going to end, however? In the past we had internationally-respected world leaders who would attempt to broker some form of ceasefire or even peace.
Yes, of course they are (in the past) and some of it is shameful.
However, this is barbarism at its absolute worst and can in no way be wrapped up as an excuse for any of Israel’s past misdeeds, real or perceived.
They have a right to exist - Hamas, Palestine and the Arab world need to acknowledge that.
Do you?
Of course. If you’d read some of my other posts and looked at posts I’d liked you would know that.
The violent incursion by Hamas is deplorable and unforgivable.
However, you state that any Israeli misconduct towards Palestinians is in the past. I find it hard to understand how you can close your eyes to the ongoing inhumane treatment and murder of Palestinian civilians.
I did try to be reasonable, but you have resorted to type.
No you didn't you were a dickhead.
You can't go around accusing people of anti semitism for criticising the Israeli govt. It isn't. It's opposition to the racist zionism of Netanyahu and his fascist allies.
There are many Jews who do not support zionism and some who even go as far as opposing the founding of Israel. Are they too antisemites?
BoniO wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:23 pm
Frankie, do you think Israel is guilty of any misconduct against Palestinians?
Yes, of course they are (in the past) and some of it is shameful.
However, this is barbarism at its absolute worst and can in no way be wrapped up as an excuse for any of Israel’s past misdeeds, real or perceived.
They have a right to exist - Hamas, Palestine and the Arab world need to acknowledge that.
Do you?
Of course. If you’d read some of my other posts and looked at posts I’d liked you would know that.
The violent incursion by Hamas is deplorable and unforgivable.
However, you state that any Israeli misconduct towards Palestinians is in the past. I find it hard to understand how you can close your eyes to the ongoing inhumane treatment and murder of Palestinian civilians.
Got any links to this inhumane treatment and murder of Palestinian civilians? (this is not a denial that its happened btw)
Yes, of course they are (in the past) and some of it is shameful.
However, this is barbarism at its absolute worst and can in no way be wrapped up as an excuse for any of Israel’s past misdeeds, real or perceived.
They have a right to exist - Hamas, Palestine and the Arab world need to acknowledge that.
Do you?
Of course. If you’d read some of my other posts and looked at posts I’d liked you would know that.
The violent incursion by Hamas is deplorable and unforgivable.
However, you state that any Israeli misconduct towards Palestinians is in the past. I find it hard to understand how you can close your eyes to the ongoing inhumane treatment and murder of Palestinian civilians.
Got any links to this inhumane treatment and murder of Palestinian civilians? (this is not a denial that its happened btw)
I really can’t be arsed. I’m watching House of Games…
Yes, of course they are (in the past) and some of it is shameful.
However, this is barbarism at its absolute worst and can in no way be wrapped up as an excuse for any of Israel’s past misdeeds, real or perceived.
They have a right to exist - Hamas, Palestine and the Arab world need to acknowledge that.
Do you?
Of course. If you’d read some of my other posts and looked at posts I’d liked you would know that.
The violent incursion by Hamas is deplorable and unforgivable.
However, you state that any Israeli misconduct towards Palestinians is in the past. I find it hard to understand how you can close your eyes to the ongoing inhumane treatment and murder of Palestinian civilians.
Got any links to this inhumane treatment and murder of Palestinian civilians? (this is not a denial that its happened btw)
Regardless of the history, the backing of terrorists who have killed hundreds, been kidnapping, beheading women, children and babies, I find just mind boggling.
Only one person was backing Hamas. Eveyone else seemed to show concern for Innocent people killed or harmed from both sides involved, at least on here with 1 or 2 throwing the anti semite phrase around.
Of course. If you’d read some of my other posts and looked at posts I’d liked you would know that.
The violent incursion by Hamas is deplorable and unforgivable.
However, you state that any Israeli misconduct towards Palestinians is in the past. I find it hard to understand how you can close your eyes to the ongoing inhumane treatment and murder of Palestinian civilians.
Got any links to this inhumane treatment and murder of Palestinian civilians? (this is not a denial that its happened btw)
68 Palestinians, including 18 children, were killed by Israeli security forces during demonstrations, security operations and other incidents. Meanwhile, 10 Israelis, including one woman, two children and three Israeli security forces personnel, were killed, and 122 Israelis, including six women, six children and 33 Israeli security forces personnel, were injured by Palestinians in attacks and other incidents.
Not much detail here, but it doesnt sound anything like the Islamic State-esque violence we've heard about recently.
68 Palestinians, including 18 children, were killed by Israeli security forces during demonstrations, security operations and other incidents. Meanwhile, 10 Israelis, including one woman, two children and three Israeli security forces personnel, were killed, and 122 Israelis, including six women, six children and 33 Israeli security forces personnel, were injured by Palestinians in attacks and other incidents.
Not much detail here, but it doesnt sound anything like the Islamic State-esque violence we've heard about recently.
1st I came across, there are plenty more if you choose to look.