Labour Watch

[Max Fowler]

10.3

13 million votes in 2017. It dropped to 10 million in 2019.

[Dunners]

Quitters.

[Dunners]

Anyway, as part of my day job I'm currently reviewing what appears to be an emerging housing policy from the Labour Party. So far, it's a pile of w*nk.

[Max B Gold]

Anyway, as part of my day job I'm currently reviewing what appears to be an emerging housing policy from the Labour Party. So far, it's a pile of w*nk.

Why? It makes perfect sense for the Guardians of rentier capitalism to protect landlords and not the poor schmucks who vote for them because they think they will look after them.

[Max B Gold]

In a fantasy parallel universe, had he emerged at the same time as a switch to a PR electoral system, he could have done well. But under FPTP, 600K members and 10.3 million votes does not necessarily translate into actual power. Especially when they're mainly concentrated in constituencies that were already likely to vote Labour. The cross-party alliance to maintain the status quo just made the eventual defeat even worse (and possibly more permanent in terms of Westminster politics) than it would otherwise have been.

Men make their own history, but they do not make it as they please; they do not make it under self-selected circumstances, but under circumstances existing already, given and transmitted from the past.

The tradition of all dead generations weighs like a nightmare on the brains of the living. And just as they seem to be occupied with revolutionizing themselves and things, creating something that did not exist before, precisely in such epochs of revolutionary crisis they anxiously conjure up the spirits of the past to their service, borrowing from them names, battle slogans, and costumes in order to present this new scene in world history in time-honored disguise and borrowed language.

[Dunners]

In a fantasy parallel universe, had he emerged at the same time as a switch to a PR electoral system, he could have done well. But under FPTP, 600K members and 10.3 million votes does not necessarily translate into actual power. Especially when they're mainly concentrated in constituencies that were already likely to vote Labour. The cross-party alliance to maintain the status quo just made the eventual defeat even worse (and possibly more permanent in terms of Westminster politics) than it would otherwise have been.

Men make their own history, but they do not make it as they please; they do not make it under self-selected circumstances, but under circumstances existing already, given and transmitted from the past.

The tradition of all dead generations weighs like a nightmare on the brains of the living. And just as they seem to be occupied with revolutionizing themselves and things, creating something that did not exist before, precisely in such epochs of revolutionary crisis they anxiously conjure up the spirits of the past to their service, borrowing from them names, battle slogans, and costumes in order to present this new scene in world history in time-honored disguise and borrowed language.

Cheers Karl.

[Friend or fart]

Max, you undermining the Labour Party is never going to get you the next Tory victory you long for. Give up on your boring diatribes.

[Max B Gold]

In a fantasy parallel universe, had he emerged at the same time as a switch to a PR electoral system, he could have done well. But under FPTP, 600K members and 10.3 million votes does not necessarily translate into actual power. Especially when they're mainly concentrated in constituencies that were already likely to vote Labour. The cross-party alliance to maintain the status quo just made the eventual defeat even worse (and possibly more permanent in terms of Westminster politics) than it would otherwise have been.

Men make their own history, but they do not make it as they please; they do not make it under self-selected circumstances, but under circumstances existing already, given and transmitted from the past.

The tradition of all dead generations weighs like a nightmare on the brains of the living. And just as they seem to be occupied with revolutionizing themselves and things, creating something that did not exist before, precisely in such epochs of revolutionary crisis they anxiously conjure up the spirits of the past to their service, borrowing from them names, battle slogans, and costumes in order to present this new scene in world history in time-honored disguise and borrowed language.

Cheers Karl.

No worries. You needed it.

[Max B Gold]

Max, you undermining the Labour Party is never going to get you the next Tory victory you long for. Give up on your boring diatribes.

I'm not undermining them. I am pointing out that they are not a vehicle for delivering socialism and therefore for socialists they belong in the dustbin of history.

[FrankOFile]

Labour Party Membership:

Under Corbyn - 600,000
Under Starmer - 150,000

450,000 have gone.

Gone where? Did they actually even vote for Corbyn in 2019?
If so, they must have been the only ones.

Time for this obsession for a failure to end.

So there's not an issue losing 450,000 members? OKs.

No. What did they do anyway?

[Max B Gold]

Gone where? Did they actually even vote for Corbyn in 2019?
If so, they must have been the only ones.

Time for this obsession for a failure to end.

So there's not an issue losing 450,000 members? OKs.

No. What did they do anyway?

Gave them about £6m in hard cash which Stalmer is trying to replace by seducing rich capitalists.

When JC was brutally deposed as leader the LP had £13m in the kitty. Not so now.

[Dunners]

The realignment of mainstream politics continues, with the Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer criticising the Tories for not protecting a bunch of speculative investors.

I expect she'll be offering to bail out anyone who lost on crypto next.

[Long slender neck]

Trying to appeal to Torygraph readers but, puke.

[Dunners]

He really is rubbish at dealing with anything like this, isn't he?

[Proposition Joe]

Kieth: "Young people should be empowered to express themselves clearly and confidently"

Young people express themselves clearly and confidently.

Kieth: "Shut up"

[CEB]

Can we not have anti-Keithism please? It doesn’t hurt Keir but it’s harmful to Keiths

[Max B Gold]

[Rich Tea Wellin]

Unbelievable from the Tory leader again

“Frankly, the left has to start caring a lot more about growth, about creating wealth, attracting inward investment and kickstarting a spirit of enterprise,” he says.

Oh
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... k-to-power

[E10EU]

Unbelievable from the Tory leader again

“Frankly, the left has to start caring a lot more about growth, about creating wealth, attracting inward investment and kickstarting a spirit of enterprise,” he says.

Oh
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... k-to-power

Starmer's gibberish gets more and more bizarre.

[Proposition Joe]

Nothing bizarre about it. He's just finally being open and honest about who he is and who his government will serve. And it isn't you or me.

[FrankOFile]

Nothing bizarre about it. He's just finally being open and honest about who he is and who his government will serve. And it isn't you or me.

As an alternative to what we have now, I will take it every day of the week.

And let’s face it, there is no credible alternative. None.

[Proposition Joe]

So you accept labour aren't a credible alternative but you'd still take them every day of the week?

[Story of O]

The lesser of two evils

[Proposition Joe]

How enthused the electorate will be by the guy in the red tie telling us better things aren't possible but give him a turn anyway.

[BoniO]

So what’s the alternative?