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Re: Russia Watch

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Prighozin agrees to de- escalate wagner
movements in Russia according to
Belarus presidential palace
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Thats a shame.
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Bottled it
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Surely Pigwotzit will just be bumped off now?
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Wagner: Russian troops, join us and we will take the Kremlin

Russians: Yeah, we're good thanks.

Wagner: we'll withdraw to avoid bloodshed.
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What does that even mean?
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Brokered a deal for him to 'fall from a window' in Belarus in a few years rather than get bumped off in a Russian jail. Nice.
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Milano wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 6:56 am I can't decide if this is real or is part of some game being played out by Putin, Prigozhin and others. There's a faint hope that Putin is ready to call it quits and is looking for scapegoats to fall from windows over the coming months.
However, surely even Russia can't be this disorganised and disfunctional, can it?
A game?

Is this a wind-up?
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Proposition Joe wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 10:07 pm Brokered a deal for him to 'fall from a window' in Belarus in a few years rather than get bumped off in a Russian jail. Nice.
I was thinking along these lines too. He's a dead man walking.
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I've got 5/1 from Paddy Power for Novichok on his cornflakes
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Proposition Joe wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 10:07 pm Brokered a deal for him to 'fall from a window' in Belarus in a few years rather than get bumped off in a Russian jail. Nice.
My thoughts exactly but surely he must knows that might happen . I wonder what safe guards he's put in place because if he hasn't he's an idiot .
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Or perhaps part of an undercover plan by Putin to install him to take over as the next evil dictator of Belarus, nothing would surprise me !
The world is now full of evil dictators and mafia type gangsters in charge of so many countries.
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From what we've heard in the media, Prigozhim seems to have all the principles of a premiership football
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FrankOFile wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 6:17 am
Milano wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 6:56 am I can't decide if this is real or is part of some game being played out by Putin, Prigozhin and others. There's a faint hope that Putin is ready to call it quits and is looking for scapegoats to fall from windows over the coming months.
However, surely even Russia can't be this disorganised and disfunctional, can it?
A game?

Is this a wind-up?
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A wind up would occur to a dullard l guess. I don't have that much faith in the story as told to we prols, it seems to me that Prigozhin, Putin and other are playing us all in an attempt to position themselves better to wreak destruction upon Ukraine and, by association, NATO and its allies. I just cannot believe Russia is in such chaos. We'll see.....
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BTW... Putin sends strategic and tactical nukes to Belarus, a few days later he agrees to send Progozhin there too after the most bizarre events of the conflict so far? Coincidence?
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Maybe, maybe not. I'm certainly wary of reading too much into anything right now. On the surface it's hard not to see how Putin hasn't been weakened by all this. But the Russian forces are now under central unified command, and not operating independently of each other. That corrects one of their main weaknesses so far.
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Putin has back tracked and now decided he won’t drop charges against the against Wagners leadership for treason.
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Top of the JES wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2023 9:48 am Putin has back tracked and now decided he won’t drop charges against the against Wagners leadership for treason.
Where is the news of that, link please !

Putin is eying up taking over Belarus when the ill and aging dictator Aleksandr Lukashenko goes, so perhaps getting the bully boy Wagner mercenary group chief, Yevgeny Prigozhin in the country is all part of the plan to grab the country back into Putins new era ''Soviet Union''
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I've read the same via a few sources, but nothing is confirmed yet. Also, the Telegraph is reporting that the families of Wagner leaders were threatened (and I still can't believe they're using that logo design)

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Milano wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 1:28 pm A wind up would occur to a dullard l guess. I don't have that much faith in the story as told to we prols, it seems to me that Prigozhin, Putin and other are playing us all in an attempt to position themselves better to wreak destruction upon Ukraine and, by association, NATO and its allies. I just cannot believe Russia is in such chaos. We'll see.....
Only a dullard, or worse, would think think this was a game, so there you go.
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The Belarusian dictator, Alexander Lukashenko, has emerged as an early beneficiary of the aborted Wagner march on Moscow, but those benefits may not have a long shelf life. Whether or not Lukashenko played quite the enterprising broker’s role described in the statements coming out of the Kremlin and Minsk (and most analysts are sceptical), he has emerged in the Russian press as the hero of the hour, the man who saved Moscow.
That is very much a step up from the part of a frail provisional satrap, which Lukashenko, 68, has played since Vladimir Putin stepped in to save his regime in the wake of apparent election defeat in 2020.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/lukashenko-re ... 36970.html
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Dunners wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2023 11:42 am I've read the same via a few sources, but nothing is confirmed yet. Also, the Telegraph is reporting that the families of Wagner leaders were threatened (and I still can't believe they're using that logo design)

Prigozhin will not stay in Belarus long, could be off soon fighting another proxy war for Putin in perhaps Africa. Meanwhile he will need to watch his back and employ a TASTER to sample all his food and drink ! Also avoid visits to high rise buildings to avoid the urge to jump out of windows on the top floor !
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Where's Vladamir ? Still hiding
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