That’s if all our rivals win all their gamesChelmsford Swimmer wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 1:22 pm 7 points required to guarantee promotion, 11 points required to guarantee being champions.
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Re: Maximum possible points
8 i believe incase of GDChelmsford Swimmer wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 1:22 pm 7 points required to guarantee promotion, 11 points required to guarantee being champions.
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Re: Maximum possible points
Which is not possibleB.whitehouse+10more wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 1:26 pmThat’s if all our rivals win all their gamesChelmsford Swimmer wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 1:22 pm 7 points required to guarantee promotion, 11 points required to guarantee being champions.
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Re: Maximum possible points
All of Stevenage, Carlisle, and Bradford can win allStory of O wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:00 pmWhich is not possibleB.whitehouse+10more wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 1:26 pmThat’s if all our rivals win all their gamesChelmsford Swimmer wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 1:22 pm 7 points required to guarantee promotion, 11 points required to guarantee being champions.
of their games, none of them play each other, achieving at least 86 points, so we need 7 points to be guaranteed promotion.
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Re: Maximum possible points
Nope. 5. Check the fixtures again.Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:40 pmAll of Stevenage, Carlisle, and Bradford can win all
of their games, none of them play each other, achieving at least 86 points, so we need 7 points to be guaranteed promotion.
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Re: Maximum possible points
UPDATE
Orient 99 currently on 81 points
Northampton 88
Carlisle 85
Stevenage 88
Stockport 85
Bradford 86
Mansfield 83
Orient 99 currently on 81 points
Northampton 88
Carlisle 85
Stevenage 88
Stockport 85
Bradford 86
Mansfield 83
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Re: Maximum possible points
Could go up vs Sutton if we win and Carlisle, Stockport and Bradford all lose
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Playing with the scores, it looks like - if we win Vs Sutton - it wouldn't matter how Carlisle & Northampton went, so long as Bradford Lose and Stockport fail to win, we'd be guaranteed promotionLong slender neck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:28 pm Could go up vs Sutton if we win and Carlisle, Stockport and Bradford all lose
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Re: Maximum possible points
Checked the fixtures again, the statement was correct, which two of Stevenage, Carlisle, and Bradford do you think are playing each other ? That said the situation has changed now and we need less points.EH16 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:22 pmNope. 5. Check the fixtures again.Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:40 pmAll of Stevenage, Carlisle, and Bradford can win all
of their games, none of them play each other, achieving at least 86 points, so we need 7 points to be guaranteed promotion.
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Re: Maximum possible points
Well work through the scenarios on the table above.
If we beat Sutton, we're on 84 points. If Bradford lose, the best they can get to is 83 points - so they're out of the picture, as are Mansfield. Stevenage can still get more than 84 points, so that's one team who can catch us, so we'd need 2 out of Northampton, Carlisle and Stockport to beat 84 points to thwart us. If Stockport only get a point on Saturday, then they could still get to 84 points, but they'd need to beat Carlisle - which screws Carlisle up.
If Carlisle beat Northampton that stops Northampton getting to 84, if Northampton beat Carlisle, that stops them.
Edit : Hold on.
If Carlisle beat Northampton, but then Northampton win all their remaining games (including Bradford) then both of them will still be able to get to 85. A draw means Carlisle can't (I think)
If we beat Sutton, we're on 84 points. If Bradford lose, the best they can get to is 83 points - so they're out of the picture, as are Mansfield. Stevenage can still get more than 84 points, so that's one team who can catch us, so we'd need 2 out of Northampton, Carlisle and Stockport to beat 84 points to thwart us. If Stockport only get a point on Saturday, then they could still get to 84 points, but they'd need to beat Carlisle - which screws Carlisle up.
If Carlisle beat Northampton that stops Northampton getting to 84, if Northampton beat Carlisle, that stops them.
Edit : Hold on.
If Carlisle beat Northampton, but then Northampton win all their remaining games (including Bradford) then both of them will still be able to get to 85. A draw means Carlisle can't (I think)
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Re: Maximum possible points
Get a grip everyone! We would have to lose all our games and all the other teams win most of theirs. It could happen but it won’t
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Absolutely! But it would still be nice to know exactly when to pop the champagne secure in the knowledge that the Os can't possibly screw it up!!
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And don't forget to take goal difference into account as wellStory of O wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:47 pm Get a grip everyone! We would have to lose all our games and all the other teams win most of theirs. It could happen but it won’t
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Agree.StillSpike wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:29 pm Latest position - 5 for guaranteed promotion, 8 for guaranteed Champions
As of now Stevenage and/ or Northampton could reach 88 points, so we need 89 to be sure of the title, which is another 8 points.
Only Stevenage, Northampton and Bradford City can get more than 85 points, but the latter two still have to play each other, and they can’t both get more than 85 points whatever happens when they meet, hence 86 will ensure automatic which is another 5 points needed.
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Re: Maximum possible points
UPDATE
Orient 99 currently on 84 points
Northampton 86
Carlisle 83
Stevenage 88
Stockport 83
Bradford 86
Orient 99 currently on 84 points
Northampton 86
Carlisle 83
Stevenage 88
Stockport 83
Bradford 86
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Re: Maximum possible points
Tuesday
Win or draw vs Gills and we're up
Win and title is ours if Stevenage dont win
If Northampton or Bradford lose, we're up
Win or draw vs Gills and we're up
Win and title is ours if Stevenage dont win
If Northampton or Bradford lose, we're up
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It’s better than that.Long slender neck wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 5:03 pm Tuesday
Win or draw vs Gills and we're up
Win and title is ours if Stevenage dont win
If Northampton or Bradford lose, we're up
If either Northampton or Bradford lose OR draw Tuesday we are promoted even in the unlikely event of an Orient defeat !
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Re: Maximum possible points
If they draw they'd then be able to get a maximum of 84 points, which is what we have.
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As Bradford and Northampton still have to play each other, if one only draws on Tuesday they cant both then get to 84 points, which would then guarantee us promotion.Long slender neck wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 10:08 pm If they draw they'd then be able to get a maximum of 84 points, which is what we have.