RE interview - transfers

[LOFC1948]

In terms of the Clubs plan KT I think has said that getting back to the EFL this season puts us a bit ahead in the plan . The unfortunate change of team management has no doubt set the club back and its now a case of wait and see for a bit and this probably includes what the squad needs to look like for this season. Nigel and Kent are a good hands on people and no doubt they are adjusting the plan right now. Let’s be patient.

[Rambling Man]

From Ross Embletons interview after the game it does sound like more players to come in before the window shuts but he says “ we have gone from being the big boys who can go and get who we want when we want to being bottom of the pile and having to wait for others to make their decisions”

When were we the big boys in the transfer market??

I imagine they are different transfer markets to some extent because of the different deadlines that apply. Now we are subject once again to a Summer transfer deadline, the agents may be playing up against that in the hope of getting better deals.

[Byways1]

So we are where players end up when they can’t do better elsewhere. That’s a recommendation if ever I’ve heard one.

Yep,I think the job is done.
We are now back in the league and back to no ambition.
It seems to me that a mid table finish for the next 5 years is acceptable to some, but people will soon get fed up when we are overtaken my newly born promoted non league clubs.
The fact is that last season we weren’t great but got over the line being led by a superb manager.The next couple of weeks will show the true ambition of the club.

Happy soul 'ain't ya, bet your a hoot in the supporters club

Nothing to be happy about if we are treading water in the 4th division for years.
People will soon lose interest watching us being left behind by lesser clubs.

[Byways1]

From Ross Embletons interview after the game it does sound like more players to come in before the window shuts but he says “ we have gone from being the big boys who can go and get who we want when we want to being bottom of the pile and having to wait for others to make their decisions”

When were we the big boys in the transfer market??

I imagine they are different transfer markets to some extent because of the different deadlines that apply. Now we are subject once again to a Summer transfer deadline, the agents may be playing up against that in the hope of getting better deals.

Or we could be left with the leftovers.

[F*ck The Poor & Fat]

From Ross Embletons interview after the game it does sound like more players to come in before the window shuts but he says “ we have gone from being the big boys who can go and get who we want when we want to being bottom of the pile and having to wait for others to make their decisions”

When were we the big boys in the transfer market??

I imagine they are different transfer markets to some extent because of the different deadlines that apply. Now we are subject once again to a Summer transfer deadline, the agents may be playing up against that in the hope of getting better deals.

Or we could be left with the leftovers.

That is the reality. But we have a decent core group and all we need are competent bench warmers. Anybody expecting more are likely to be disappointed. Same for timing, we have sufficient to start the season assuming no injuries, so newbies coming in within the first month is not ideal but no drama.

[LittleMate]

I think it's a less attractive proposition to play under Ross than Justin and that's affecting who wants to join us

Agreed - and with an interim appointment players will be concerned that they are liked and signed by someone who may be ousted before too long.

I have a theory on the interim appointment that it was only made because it was an impossible job - and that we will see a permanent replacement in the coming months. Would not surprise me either if it were an internal one (Jobi).

[Red_Army]

Another thought, as Ross, Danny and Jobi are regarded as Interim appointments, is that putting off players from signing, being concerned that should the management team change then they won't figure in the new managers plans.

Personally I dislike the term interim. If they consider Ross up to it, offer him the job. If they don’t then bring in someone else. I have little doubt there are experienced managers out there quite capable of handling our situation with tact and sensitivity. The interim label is a nothing cop out, delaying making a decision and I will say it again points to Ling Snr playing a big part in team matters. The manager in all but name. Ruling the roost minus the matchday pressures. Ross remains the assistant but the public face of the team with a nothing title.

Hardly a vote of confidence in Ross either. Nor the other interims. In different circumstances and if we were established in L2, then why not give the interims their chance. But right now ain’t the time for such a huge gamble. But mitigated by having Ling behind the scenes to a degree, he has after all done it before and with success.

Ling is in effect the manager but one who avoids many of the pressures that come with the job. The power behind the scenes. And tbf probably the reason why mid table is achievable.

Apart from the speculative fiction that you are creating, do you not understand why the interim position was created? We're not doing it for the fun of it.

[F*ck The Poor & Fat]

Another thought, as Ross, Danny and Jobi are regarded as Interim appointments, is that putting off players from signing, being concerned that should the management team change then they won't figure in the new managers plans.

Personally I dislike the term interim. If they consider Ross up to it, offer him the job. If they don’t then bring in someone else. I have little doubt there are experienced managers out there quite capable of handling our situation with tact and sensitivity. The interim label is a nothing cop out, delaying making a decision and I will say it again points to Ling Snr playing a big part in team matters. The manager in all but name. Ruling the roost minus the matchday pressures. Ross remains the assistant but the public face of the team with a nothing title.

Hardly a vote of confidence in Ross either. Nor the other interims. In different circumstances and if we were established in L2, then why not give the interims their chance. But right now ain’t the time for such a huge gamble. But mitigated by having Ling behind the scenes to a degree, he has after all done it before and with success.

Ling is in effect the manager but one who avoids many of the pressures that come with the job. The power behind the scenes. And tbf probably the reason why mid table is achievable.

Apart from the speculative fiction that you are creating, do you not understand why the interim position was created? We're not doing it for the fun of it.

To suggest I don’t understand why the need arose is so f*cking insulting it’s beyond a f*cking joke.

I understand what interim means and how it is used. My dislike is, as I said, a personal view and I have no issues if others see it differently. There were alternatives, the owners chose not to take them, fine, their club, their money, their decision based on being close to the situation and my opinion don’t matter, like yours. We all know that. They have made their decision, I am supporting that decision buying a ST and I hope and pray it works. I don’t want any relegation dog fights thanks. A risk that I believe could have been significantly reduced with an experienced man in charge.

If you believe Ross won’t seek guidance from Ling then you are stupid. Why wouldn’t he call upon the knowledge and experience available. To believe he won’t take note of and act upon such advice is equally absurd. Therefore Ling will influence team matters. The only question is to what degree. I believe his influence will be substantial behind the scenes and I have absolutely no issue with that. Ling has nothing to prove to us fans. The one saving grace over not appointing an experienced manager is to utilise the experience already at the club.

[Red_Army]

Personally I dislike the term interim. If they consider Ross up to it, offer him the job. If they don’t then bring in someone else. I have little doubt there are experienced managers out there quite capable of handling our situation with tact and sensitivity. The interim label is a nothing cop out, delaying making a decision and I will say it again points to Ling Snr playing a big part in team matters. The manager in all but name. Ruling the roost minus the matchday pressures. Ross remains the assistant but the public face of the team with a nothing title.

Hardly a vote of confidence in Ross either. Nor the other interims. In different circumstances and if we were established in L2, then why not give the interims their chance. But right now ain’t the time for such a huge gamble. But mitigated by having Ling behind the scenes to a degree, he has after all done it before and with success.

Ling is in effect the manager but one who avoids many of the pressures that come with the job. The power behind the scenes. And tbf probably the reason why mid table is achievable.

Apart from the speculative fiction that you are creating, do you not understand why the interim position was created? We're not doing it for the fun of it.

To suggest I don’t understand why the need arose is so f*cking insulting it’s beyond a f*cking joke.

I understand what interim means and how it is used. My dislike is, as I said, a personal view and I have no issues if others see it differently. There were alternatives, the owners chose not to take them, fine, their club, their money, their decision based on being close to the situation and my opinion don’t matter, like yours. We all know that. They have made their decision, I am supporting that decision buying a ST and I hope and pray it works. I don’t want any relegation dog fights thanks. A risk that I believe could have been significantly reduced with an experienced man in charge.

If you believe Ross won’t seek guidance from Ling then you are stupid. Why wouldn’t he call upon the knowledge and experience available. To believe he won’t take note of and act upon such advice is equally absurd. Therefore Ling will influence team matters. The only question is to what degree. I believe his influence will be substantial behind the scenes and I have absolutely no issue with that. Ling has nothing to prove to us fans.

I apologise if my comment seemed insensitive in the circumstances.

I do think it is insulting to Ross to suggest that he will somehow be Ling's frontman. What you are suggesting is far more than Ross just taking a bit of advice from Ling, your quote was "Ling is in effect the manager but one who avoids many of the pressures that come with the job. The power behind the scenes."

[F*ck The Poor & Fat]

Apart from the speculative fiction that you are creating, do you not understand why the interim position was created? We're not doing it for the fun of it.

To suggest I don’t understand why the need arose is so f*cking insulting it’s beyond a f*cking joke.

I understand what interim means and how it is used. My dislike is, as I said, a personal view and I have no issues if others see it differently. There were alternatives, the owners chose not to take them, fine, their club, their money, their decision based on being close to the situation and my opinion don’t matter, like yours. We all know that. They have made their decision, I am supporting that decision buying a ST and I hope and pray it works. I don’t want any relegation dog fights thanks. A risk that I believe could have been significantly reduced with an experienced man in charge.

If you believe Ross won’t seek guidance from Ling then you are stupid. Why wouldn’t he call upon the knowledge and experience available. To believe he won’t take note of and act upon such advice is equally absurd. Therefore Ling will influence team matters. The only question is to what degree. I believe his influence will be substantial behind the scenes and I have absolutely no issue with that. Ling has nothing to prove to us fans.

I apologise if my comment seemed insensitive in the circumstances.

I do think it is insulting to Ross to suggest that he will somehow be Ling's frontman. What you are suggesting is far more than Ross just taking a bit of advice from Ling, your quote was "Ling is in effect the manager but one who avoids many of the pressures that come with the job. The power behind the scenes."

Insensitive. More than that.

I’m not insulting Ross at all. If I were in his position I would be using every ounce of Lings knowledge and experience that I could get. It will help him significantly as he grows into the job. He would be an absolute idiot not to use Ling. Ling too will want Ross to succeed. It is not a competition between them. This in not a conflict situation but one of mutual benefit.

Therefore it follows that Lings influence will be significant. Ross will make the calls but the Ling influence will be there quite a lot. This is not a criticism but a simple fact of life. A situation not limited to football.

Should Ross start to succeed, then his confidence and experience will grow and his reliance in Ling, still and adviser, will reduce as will Lings influence in team matters. But that will take time, maybe a season. But to start with I would expect and hope Ling to play a significant part in team matters. Which will reduce over time.

[Adz]

RE the interim manager, it could be that it was Ross's choice and not the board. Maybe he's not sure if he wants to be a manager rather than a coach, so asked for an interim role to see how it goes.

[Disoriented]

Let’s just give the fella a chance - he deserves that.

[F*ck The Poor & Fat]

RE the interim manager, it could be that it was Ross's choice and not the board. Maybe he's not sure if he wants to be a manager rather than a coach, so asked for an interim role to see how it goes.

I dare say he discussed options but it would be a very selfish decision to take on a role he is not sure he wants considering it affects his two underling interim staff and the team. it would be strange to call him interim and the other two not.

Pretty sure it was a Board decision and they chose not to invoke the traditional Caretaker Manager role which implies temporary whereas interim as used by the club is a wait and see how it goes and if we’ll the job is his title. If not your old job is safe.

Personally and with the right mentoring I hope he does well. He would have learned a lot from JE but there is a massive difference between being number 2 and number 1. It’s a big season for the young man, the first 3 months shapes his future.

[RedDwarf 1881]

From Ross Embletons interview after the game it does sound like more players to come in before the window shuts but he says “ we have gone from being the big boys who can go and get who we want when we want to being bottom of the pile and having to wait for others to make their decisions”

When were we the big boys in the transfer market??

" Bottom of the pile" , well apart from maybe Bradford and Plymouth we're the same size club as all the rest of League Two. That puts us in the same boat as everybody else at our level.

[Buddy Manucci]

League Two is bottom of the pile if we are chasing loans or permanent deals with Championship and League One players though. We all know we wanted to sign Louis Dennis but Portsmouth wouldn't/won't let him leave until they bring in a replacement.

Depends how to interpret it.

[CreamofSumYungGai]

From Ross Embletons interview after the game it does sound like more players to come in before the window shuts but he says “ we have gone from being the big boys who can go and get who we want when we want to being bottom of the pile and having to wait for others to make their decisions”

When were we the big boys in the transfer market??

We are still a big club in L2 because of our history, set up, stadium, fanbase, location etc. We've also been good payers, by all accounts. We will only stop being a big draw when we make it back up to L1 and beyond.

I suspect the reason we are struggling to attract players now compared to last season is that footballers wanted to come and play for Justin. They're less keen on the current set up. Which I can understand.