Israel

[tuffers#1]

With all due respect youre talking rubbish... Israel is effing bankrupt !

https://www.worldometers.info/gdp/gdp-by-country/

Britains virtually Bankrupt .
What has that got to do with the size of an Economy ?

Thanks to the pandemic I think most countries are virtually bankrupt

Think they were bankrupt before the pandemic myself.

That just allows them to get more credit & debt , which
Will lead us paying for it .

Lockdowns have got rid of our wistful spending though.

[Kimpon]

Rather insensitive with events there. I am not Jewish but come on?

[PutneyO]

It'll be a very sad day for this message board when the Arabs eventually wipe out Israel. Where else is there in the world that you will find such an intetesting oppressed minority as the Palestinians to support ?

[Chicken Dhansak]

It'll be a very sad day for this message board when the Arabs eventually wipe out Israel. Where else is there in the world that you will find such an intetesting oppressed minority as the Palestinians to support ?

Well, you can always think about the Catholics in Northern Ireland, or the muslims in China.

[PutneyO]

It'll be a very sad day for this message board when the Arabs eventually wipe out Israel. Where else is there in the world that you will find such an intetesting oppressed minority as the Palestinians to support ?

Well, you can always think about the Catholics in Northern Ireland, or the muslims in China.

Or the Christians in Egypt ?

[ComeOnYouOs]

It'll be a very sad day for this message board when the Arabs eventually wipe out Israel. Where else is there in the world that you will find such an intetesting oppressed minority as the Palestinians to support ?

Well, you can always think about the Catholics in Northern Ireland, or the muslims in China.

Catholics are now the majority in NI
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-43823506

[Max B Gold]

It'll be a very sad day for this message board when the Arabs eventually wipe out Israel. Where else is there in the world that you will find such an intetesting oppressed minority as the Palestinians to support ?

Well, you can always think about the Catholics in Northern Ireland, or the muslims in China.

Catholics are now the majority in NI
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-43823506

Do you mean Catholics or Republicans?

[tuffers#1]

Rather insensitive with events there. I am not Jewish but come on?

What was the point in this post ?

perhaps ?

[Kimpon]

Rather insensitive with events there. I am not Jewish but come on?

What was the point in this post ?

perhaps ?

Best to avoid talking about certain subjects as bound to start a spate of hate comments.

Don’t get me wrong I’m not a Jew but have many friends who are and the subject is always a tinderbox. Best talk about footy or something else.

[tuffers#1]

So why comment ?

Please say JEWISH instad of JEW .

The latter sounds much more offensive .

[Rich Tea Wellin]

So slowly sliding more and more into nationalism. Agree wholeheartedly with Scharma. And good to see some Jewish organisations coming around to the idea that the Israeli state is going in a dark path. Hopefully the tide of opinion keeps changing and the serious accusation of antisemitism is split from anti Zionism

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... lestinians

[tuffers#1]

Ive heard Benny started bombing sites producing drones & missiles intended for Russia to use against Ukraine .

[Proposition Joe]

So slowly sliding more and more into nationalism. Agree wholeheartedly with Scharma. And good to see some Jewish organisations coming around to the idea that the Israeli state is going in a dark path. Hopefully the tide of opinion keeps changing and the serious accusation of antisemitism is split from anti Zionism

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... lestinians

But I thought Baddiel said that asking British Jews to condemn Israel was antisemitic? I can't keep up.

[Neptune's Spear]

What the f have Israel got to do with Orient not being able to beat Swindon yesterday ?

[Rich Tea Wellin]

So slowly sliding more and more into nationalism. Agree wholeheartedly with Scharma. And good to see some Jewish organisations coming around to the idea that the Israeli state is going in a dark path. Hopefully the tide of opinion keeps changing and the serious accusation of antisemitism is split from anti Zionism

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... lestinians

But I thought Baddiel said that asking British Jews to condemn Israel was antisemitic? I can't keep up.

Not a massive fan of his. Got given his book Jews Don’t Count a while back and still haven’t read it but his tv show of the same name was very thought provoking and made me reconsider some of my ‘Jewishness’ but I disagree with him about israel. Interestingly Miriam Margolyse made the point that as Jews we actually have a duty to stand against it. It’s all abit confusing

[Dunners]

How much of recent Israeli politics can be linked to wider geopolitical shifts? It sounds like everything is proper going to sh*t in the whole region.

With the US losing interest, Iran stiring the pot with Hamas and Hezbollah, Arab states aligning with the Israelis, Turkey and Russia flexing their muscles, the instability of Iraq and Syria, the Saudis using Yeman as target practice...

It has a pre-1914 Europe feel to it.

[The Mindsweep]

How much of recent Israeli politics can be linked to wider geopolitical shifts? It sounds like everything is proper going to sh*t in the whole region.

With the US losing interest, Iran stiring the pot with Hamas and Hezbollah, Arab states aligning with the Israelis, Turkey and Russia flexing their muscles, the instability of Iraq and Syria, the Saudis using Yeman as target practice...

It has a pre-1914 Europe feel to it.

Can we cancel any upcoming trips to the Bosnian capital by Archduke types. Better check the holiday plans of Marko Arnautović to be on the safe side as well

[Dunners]

I think that this thread is a reliable explainer of what is happening right now:

[Max Fowler]

So slowly sliding more and more into nationalism. Agree wholeheartedly with Scharma. And good to see some Jewish organisations coming around to the idea that the Israeli state is going in a dark path. Hopefully the tide of opinion keeps changing and the serious accusation of antisemitism is split from anti Zionism

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... lestinians

C**ts like Hodge have spent the last 8 years facilitating this. It's too late to start speaking out now.

[Proposition Joe]

I wonder how badly the situation must have changed in...er, the last couple of weeks, since Hodge was over there on a Labour Friends of Israel jolly (the biggest delegation in years)? Curious!

[Max Fowler]

I wonder how badly the situation must have changed in...er, the last couple of weeks, since Hodge was over there on a Labour Friends of Israel jolly (the biggest delegation in years)? Curious!

The 'jolly' had been planned for a few weeks and there was nothing improper in it.

[Dunners]

A little while later....

The 'jolly' had been planned for some while and there was nothing improper in it.

[Max B Gold]

So slowly sliding more and more into nationalism. Agree wholeheartedly with Scharma. And good to see some Jewish organisations coming around to the idea that the Israeli state is going in a dark path. Hopefully the tide of opinion keeps changing and the serious accusation of antisemitism is split from anti Zionism

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... lestinians

C**ts like Hodge have spent the last 8 years facilitating this. It's too late to start speaking out now.

Anyone know what Palestinians think about this?

My understanding is that it doesn't matter how liberal/reactionary the Israeli govt is they still oversee the murder of Palestinians, the stealing of their land and the imposition of Apartheid.

[ComeOnYouOs]

Double Standards?

[Rich Tea Wellin]

War inevitable?