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Just 5 points needed

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As Northampton have to play Carlisle, 5pts is all we need
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Promotion party at Sutton next Saturday.
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Annoying it’s not 3 but we are up in all but name
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Re: Just 5 points needed

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done deal.
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Re: Just 5 points needed

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6 for certainty

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Re: Just 5 points needed

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It was done last weekend.
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Re: Just 5 points needed

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Maths making my head hurt
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Basically, it'll be confirmed next Saturday.
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Re: Just 5 points needed

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I don't think so
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Re: Just 5 points needed

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Well you're wrong then.
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TRUMP Plumbing wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:22 pm Basically, it'll be confirmed next Saturday.
Next Saturday is the earliest we could have the "P" put next to our name in the table. If the stars align right on Monday, we could, in theory, still get the P even if we lose against Sutton, if Northampton avoid defeat against Carlisle.

Sorry, now I look at it, it's still 6 points at the moment, but if we win on Monday, and both Carlisle and Northampton lose, then we could take the "P" on Monday.
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The Mindsweep wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:08 pm As Northampton have to play Carlisle, 5pts is all we need
Ah, I thought I was 7 points . Only 5 points needed sounds better to me .
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TRUMP Plumbing wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:16 pm It was done last weekend.
In reality I think it was . That's why last Saturday was such a massive result . Just need to get the final few points in the bag . Potentially it's looking like we could win promotion at Sutton away
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Re: Just 5 points needed

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I'ts only 3 needed , Carlisle v Northampton 15th april ,
only 1 can get maximum 3 points a draw means 2 dropped points for both. We win on monday both cant catch us mathematically,
REPEAT BOTH can NOT CATCH US MATHEMATICALLY .


Up the O's :lofc:
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StillSpike wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:27 pm
TRUMP Plumbing wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:22 pm Basically, it'll be confirmed next Saturday.
Next Saturday is the earliest we could have the "P" put next to our name in the table. If the stars align right on Monday, we could, in theory, still get the P even if we lose against Sutton, if Northampton avoid defeat against Carlisle.

Sorry, now I look at it, it's still 6 points at the moment, but if we win on Monday, and both Carlisle and Northampton lose, then we could take the "P" on Monday.
This sounds the best scenario . I would be great to win promotion at our own ground
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tuffers#1 wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:36 pm I'ts only 3 needed , Carlisle v Northampton 15th april ,
only 1 can get maximum 3 points a draw means 2 dropped points for both. We win on monday both cant catch us mathematically,
REPEAT BOTH can NOT CATCH US MATHEMATICALLY .


Up the O's :lofc:
Thanks tuffers . I'm rally looking forward to Monday's game . COME ON YOU O's. !!!!!
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Re: Just 5 points needed

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RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:40 pm
StillSpike wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:27 pm
TRUMP Plumbing wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:22 pm Basically, it'll be confirmed next Saturday.
Next Saturday is the earliest we could have the "P" put next to our name in the table. If the stars align right on Monday, we could, in theory, still get the P even if we lose against Sutton, if Northampton avoid defeat against Carlisle.

Sorry, now I look at it, it's still 6 points at the moment, but if we win on Monday, and both Carlisle and Northampton lose, then we could take the "P" on Monday.
This sounds the best scenario . I would be great to win promotion at our own ground
Win on Monday & It is !!

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tuffers#1 wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:36 pm I'ts only 3 needed , Carlisle v Northampton 15th april ,
only 1 can get maximum 3 points a draw means 2 dropped points for both. We win on monday both cant catch us mathematically,
REPEAT BOTH can NOT CATCH US MATHEMATICALLY .


Up the O's :lofc:
NO

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If the results for our competitors fall as I've modelled above, then all 3 can catch us unless we get another 6 points, and certainly if we only got another 3 points
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Re: Just 5 points needed

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StillSpike wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:46 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:36 pm I'ts only 3 needed , Carlisle v Northampton 15th april ,
only 1 can get maximum 3 points a draw means 2 dropped points for both. We win on monday both cant catch us mathematically,
REPEAT BOTH can NOT CATCH US MATHEMATICALLY .


Up the O's :lofc:
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If the results for our competitors fall as I've modelled above, then all 3 can catch us unless we get another 6 points, and certainly if we only got another 3 points
Only for the Title , Win Monday we get to 83 , Northampton v Carlisle can NOT both get Maximum points to stop us being promoted regardless of what your image might think :mrgreen:
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This is like arguing with f*cking CEB about mathematics. You're welcome to have your own opinions, thoughts and beliefs, but YOU CANNOT HAVE YOUR OWN FACTS.

OK -

If Carlisle and Northampton DRAW on 15th, then :
Carlisle can get 85 points and Northampton can get 86 points

If Carlisle Win on 15th, then :
Carlisle can get 87 points and Northampton can get 85 points

If Northampton Win on 15th, then :
Carlisle can get 84 points and Northampton can get 88 points

So, the worst possible result of that match (as everything stands today) is that Carlisle win. If both teams win all their other remaining matches, then they'll end up with 87 points and 85 points. Even if the second worst of those results happens, and they draw, then they end up with 85 points and 86 points if they win their other remaining matches.

So to be mathematically safe, as things are right now, Orient need 6 points more (since we can't count on goals difference to be mathematically safe as it stands now)

Why is this so hard to grasp - it's right there in front of you?
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Don't forget Carlisle also play Stockport.
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Re: Just 5 points needed

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StillSpike wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:59 pm This is like arguing with f*cking CEB about mathematics. You're welcome to have your own opinions, thoughts and beliefs, but YOU CANNOT HAVE YOUR OWN FACTS.

OK -

If Carlisle and Northampton DRAW on 15th, then :
Carlisle can get 85 points and Northampton can get 86 points

If Carlisle Win on 15th, then :
Carlisle can get 87 points and Northampton can get 85 points

If Northampton Win on 15th, then :
Carlisle can get 84 points and Northampton can get 88 points

So, the worst possible result of that match (as everything stands today) is that Carlisle win. If both teams win all their other remaining matches, then they'll end up with 87 points and 85 points.

So to be mathematically safe, as things are right now, Orient need 6 points more (since we can't count on goals difference to be mathematically safe as it stands now)

Why is this so hard to grasp - it's right there in front of you?
You are telling me Carlisle are taking maximum points from walsall a Stockport h Barrow a Salford h Sutton a , That isnt happening Spikey , Win Monday WE ARE UP (p.s I'm not arguing) :mrgreen:
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Re: Just 5 points needed

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No - I'm not telling you that. I'm telling that saying

" We win on monday both cant catch us mathematically,
REPEAT BOTH can NOT CATCH US MATHEMATICALLY ."

Is plain wrong.

(p.s. you are - and you're wrong) :)))
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Re: Just 5 points needed

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But - a win Monday and they BOTH lose and that's the 6 points gained, so yes, we would be promoted then, as stated upthread.
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Re: Just 5 points needed

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Oi - when I argue about maths I at least know that I’m likely to be wrong, after the incident we don’t talk about.

Tuffers won’t back down on this though, guaranteed
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