Well, That Will Give Her Some Relief!

[tuffers#1]

CEB- Nope.

So are you in favour of imprisoning the potentially innocent?

Yes.

Even if it was you ?

[CEB]

CEB- Nope.

So are you in favour of imprisoning the potentially innocent?

Yes.

Even if it was you ?

I’m in favour of me being subject to the same due process as everyone else, yes.

Dearie me, is this the level now?

[tuffers#1]

Yes.

Even if it was you ?

I’m in favour of me being subject to the same due process as everyone else, yes.

Dearie me, is this the level now?

Is this the level ?
Youve managed to drag it this far ,
thought I'd give it another little nudge for you.

[CEB]

What an odd post

[tuffers#1]

Nothing odd about it. You answered a question that youd happily be Incarcirated for something you didnt do & then asked if this was the level we reached ? Why you got arsie is not my problem .

[CEB]

I didn’t say I’d be happy about it. I said that I believe due process should apply to me too, and I should be prepared to accept that principle if I advocate for it.

It’s the system we have. Do you not agree with it?

[tuffers#1]

Shows the System is fundamentally wrong then eh. People Accepting Injustice as a meh , oh well moment .

[CEB]

What is fundamentally flawed about the idea of people being held in prison while
*suspected/charged of a crime
*during an appeal process
*after conviction beyond reasonable doubt but with less than Caca’s “100% proven” bar met

?

[Long slender neck]

I think what I'd be worried about is government abusing the power.

I guess the problem is not all people found 'guilty' have the same level of evidence proving it. I think the legal system would have to come up with some criteria to be met, in order to use the death penalty.

[CEB]

Do you think?

[Long slender neck]

So if they had a level such as:

There has to be forensic evidence
There has to be video evidence
There has to be a witness

You'd still have a problem with it?

[tuffers#1]

What is fundamentally flawed about the idea of people being held in prison while
*suspected/charged of a crime
*during an appeal process
*after conviction beyond reasonable doubt but with less than Caca’s “100% proven” bar met

?

This
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-64879662

This



To name 2 others previously listed .

[tuffers#1]

So if they had a level such as:

There has to be forensic evidence
There has to be video evidence
There has to be a witness

You'd still have a problem with it?

Birmingham 6 Maguire especially Guiseppie Conlon Judith Ward etc all had that criteria passed , & All was Wrong

[Long slender neck]

So if they had a level such as:

There has to be forensic evidence
There has to be video evidence
There has to be a witness

You'd still have a problem with it?

Birmingham 6 Maguire especially Guiseppie Conlon Judith Ward etc all had that criteria passed , & All was Wrong

Did they? Prove it. Are you sure there was video evidence in 1974?

[tuffers#1]

So if they had a level such as:

There has to be forensic evidence
There has to be video evidence
There has to be a witness

You'd still have a problem with it?

Birmingham 6 Maguire especially Guiseppie Conlon Judith Ward etc all had that criteria passed , & All was Wrong

Did they? Prove it.

Courts already have .

[CEB]

What is fundamentally flawed about the idea of people being held in prison while
*suspected/charged of a crime
*during an appeal process
*after conviction beyond reasonable doubt but with less than Caca’s “100% proven” bar met

?

This
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-64879662

This



To name 2 others previously listed .

You really are dim.

[tuffers#1]

What is fundamentally flawed about the idea of people being held in prison while
*suspected/charged of a crime
*during an appeal process
*after conviction beyond reasonable doubt but with less than Caca’s “100% proven” bar met

?

This
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-64879662

This



To name 2 others previously listed .

You really are dim.

How do you deduce that ?

[CEB]

I deduce that because a miscarriage of justice is not self evidently a reason to abandon prison, is it?

[tuffers#1]

I deduce that because a miscarriage of justice is not self evidently a reason to abandon prison, is it?

It is if its based on a much flawed Judicial service !

[Admin]

Me, stuck in a Post Office queue: "well, guess I'll never get this time back, may as well end it all".

I sometimes log on here and get the same feeling.

[Story of O]

So if they had a level such as:

There has to be forensic evidence
There has to be video evidence
There has to be a witness

You'd still have a problem with it?

First used in 1938

First known use was in 1938

Birmingham 6 Maguire especially Guiseppie Conlon Judith Ward etc all had that criteria passed , & All was Wrong

Did they? Prove it. Are you sure there was video evidence in 1974?

[Proposition Joe]

Have to say I'm slightly surprised that we've gone from a majority seeming to agree that "the death penalty is bad" to tuffers arguing that there should be no penal system whatsoever.

[Story of O]

First used in 1938

First known use was in 1938

Birmingham 6 Maguire especially Guiseppie Conlon Judith Ward etc all had that criteria passed , & All was Wrong

Did they? Prove it. Are you sure there was video evidence in 1974?

First used in 1938

[tuffers#1]

Have to say I'm slightly surprised that we've gone from a majority seeming to agree that "the death penalty is bad" to tuffers arguing that there should be no penal system whatsoever.

Where have I said that preppie boy ?

[CEB]

This thread is truly surreal