CEB wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:33 pm
I would urge anyone who has even a slight sense of “maybe CEB has a point on some of this” - especially PJ, Apple Wumble and Mindsweep - to watch this.
This is Susie Green’s Ted talk, which she deleted a couple of weeks ago in the wake of the growing scandal around all this.
Watch the first couple of minutes where she says sane things, then prepare to drop your jaw at what the woman who has been in charge of the largest “trans children” charity has to say. It’s genuinely terrifying.
Three minutes in is where you’ll (if you have anything about you) say “sh*t, this is really what she and her husband did to their kid?” But watch the lead up for how sanity gives way for a homophobic father. And remember this isn’t a client of Mermaids, it’s the woman who runs it.
CEB wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:21 pm
An effeminate boy grows up in an environment where the father will not accept femininity in a boy.
The mother initially accepts her son’s interests, with the not unreasonable assumption that he might be gay.
The father puts his foot down and won’t have it. This causes marital friction.
The couple go to counselling, in a context where the kid’s interests are a battleground.
The parents agree (Susie under duress) to throw away girl toys, calling them inappropriate. This causes their son upset, and to be secretive about his normal interests.
When this comes to a head and Susie realised that the four -six year old won’t suddenly develop “boy” interests, her next step is not “I need to make it clear that being a boy is no barrier to his interests”, but is to take him to a GP. At which point, “this boy is effeminate and may be gay” is never again seen as a potential explanation, despite 85% of children with dysphoria growing out of it as they go through puberty.
The child was then given sex change surgery in Thailand because it’s illegal here at 16, and as a result will have no potential of having children, and little chance of a healthy sex life (Green is on tape joking about how little the doctors had to work with when fashioning her son’s pre-pubescent penis into the shape of a vagina)
If you read this in the context of the Tavistock scandal, where whistleblowers - many gay - have said that Mermaids are effectively medicalising gender non conforming kids who would grow up to be gay, I think the issue is clear
Sex education has been suspended in Isle of Man schools after a drag queen allegedly told 11-year-olds that there are 73 genders.
One “upset” child responded saying “there’s only two”, to which the drag queen allegedly responded “you’ve upset me” and made the pupil leave the class.
faldO wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 5:00 pm
Sex education has been suspended in Isle of Man schools after a drag queen allegedly told 11-year-olds that there are 73 genders.
One “upset” child responded saying “there’s only two”, to which the drag queen allegedly responded “you’ve upset me” and made the pupil leave the class.
The pertinent thing about this (and similar) stories isn’t the lesson/inappropriateness itself, but its relevance to the ideology (with respect to PJ’s post before) - because when adults teach children effectively that “gender” means “personality type”, and is distinct from sex, then distress is no longer necessary for a trans identity. But once a child discloses a trans identity - and is cheerfully affirmed for it, unlike those boring cis children - they’re on a pathway that led to the Tavistock and puberty blockers. That’s why the relevant concern is - are children who would grow up to be gay being taught that they are actually trans?
CEB wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:48 pm
I’ll tell you what, if i’d spent my early years being told that Fighting Fantasy Gamebooks, drawing, transformers (oh the irony) Star Wars and jeans were for girls and so I shouldn’t have them, and my parents split up because I wouldn’t stop, and I got taken to the doctor cos of it, I dare say I’d feel pretty damned distressed
They're not for girls, they're for geeks. You should identify as geek.
A sensible move, that I'm sure everyone will agree is a reasonable outcome. There's no way there will be any over reaction or hysteria in response to this.
