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Congratulations to Jo Swinson, the new leader of the only party to officially endorse Remain.

She should push the party onwards and upwards now that the talking corpse, Vince Cable, has departed.
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What's that smell?... oh yeh, its Jo Swinson's voting record. Shouldn't take her critics very long to point out that she's an utter creep.
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She says she will do anything to stop Brexit. Anything? I hope Boris hasn't heard this.
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Eat The Rich wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:14 pm What's that smell?... oh yeh, its Jo Swinson's voting record. Shouldn't take her critics very long to point out that she's an utter creep.
Really?
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Disoriented wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:33 pm
Eat The Rich wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:14 pm What's that smell?... oh yeh, its Jo Swinson's voting record. Shouldn't take her critics very long to point out that she's an utter creep.
Really?
She does come across as being a bit weird and that's even before we get to her voting record to implement the austerity measures to deny the weakest members of our society a decent life. Her voting record is what one expects from a dirty, stinkin, yella Tory.
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Max B Gold wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:58 pm
Disoriented wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:33 pm
Eat The Rich wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:14 pm What's that smell?... oh yeh, its Jo Swinson's voting record. Shouldn't take her critics very long to point out that she's an utter creep.
Really?
She does come across as being a bit weird and that's even before we get to her voting record to implement the austerity measures to deny the weakest members of our society a decent life. Her voting record is what one expects from a dirty, stinkin, yella Tory.
Come on Max

Boris is a bit weird
She could be classed as the
teacher all the kids wanted to make cry.
That would be more understandable.
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Max B Gold wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:58 pm
Disoriented wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:33 pm
Eat The Rich wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:14 pm What's that smell?... oh yeh, its Jo Swinson's voting record. Shouldn't take her critics very long to point out that she's an utter creep.
Really?
She does come across as being a bit weird and that's even before we get to her voting record to implement the austerity measures to deny the weakest members of our society a decent life. Her voting record is what one expects from a dirty, stinkin, yella Tory.
My impression is they only care about the middle class . Also while in power those slags helped the Tories privatise Royal Mail . I'll never forget that .
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RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:27 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:58 pm
Disoriented wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:33 pm

Really?
She does come across as being a bit weird and that's even before we get to her voting record to implement the austerity measures to deny the weakest members of our society a decent life. Her voting record is what one expects from a dirty, stinkin, yella Tory.
My impression is they only care about the middle class . Also while in power those slags helped the Tories privatise Royal Mail . I'll never forget that .
And that was a bad move because.....?

The RM is a spent business and most people that want to re-nationalise the ROYAL mail want to get rid of the monarchy. Because of email its a parcel business these days - and not a great one at that.
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LittleMate wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:54 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:27 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:58 pm

She does come across as being a bit weird and that's even before we get to her voting record to implement the austerity measures to deny the weakest members of our society a decent life. Her voting record is what one expects from a dirty, stinkin, yella Tory.
My impression is they only care about the middle class . Also while in power those slags helped the Tories privatise Royal Mail . I'll never forget that .
And that was a bad move because.....?

The RM is a spent business and most people that want to re-nationalise the ROYAL mail want to get rid of the monarchy. Because of email its a parcel business these days - and not a great one at that.
You missed out the value of Land and Assets and the fact the existing business was sold for considerably less than its worth OR that the business with its total UK coverage and overseas agreements could actually expand and adapt.
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LittleMate wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:54 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:27 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:58 pm

She does come across as being a bit weird and that's even before we get to her voting record to implement the austerity measures to deny the weakest members of our society a decent life. Her voting record is what one expects from a dirty, stinkin, yella Tory.
My impression is they only care about the middle class . Also while in power those slags helped the Tories privatise Royal Mail . I'll never forget that .
And that was a bad move because.....?

The RM is a spent business and most people that want to re-nationalise the ROYAL mail want to get rid of the monarchy. Because of email its a parcel business these days - and not a great one at that.
Because I work for Royal Mail and since privatisation our terms and conditions have come under constant attack . We've also lost thousands of jobs nationwide because of it . Maxy is completely right when he calls them yellow Tories . They obviously totally believe in privatisation . Their no friend of the working class, just the middle class .
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Max B Gold wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:24 am
LittleMate wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:54 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:27 pm

My impression is they only care about the middle class . Also while in power those slags helped the Tories privatise Royal Mail . I'll never forget that .
And that was a bad move because.....?

The RM is a spent business and most people that want to re-nationalise the ROYAL mail want to get rid of the monarchy. Because of email its a parcel business these days - and not a great one at that.
You missed out the value of Land and Assets and the fact the existing business was sold for considerably less than its worth OR that the business with its total UK coverage and overseas agreements could actually expand and adapt.
And its still a spent business even with all of that....
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LittleMate wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:45 am
Max B Gold wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:24 am
LittleMate wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:54 pm

And that was a bad move because.....?

The RM is a spent business and most people that want to re-nationalise the ROYAL mail want to get rid of the monarchy. Because of email its a parcel business these days - and not a great one at that.
You missed out the value of Land and Assets and the fact the existing business was sold for considerably less than its worth OR that the business with its total UK coverage and overseas agreements could actually expand and adapt.
And its still a spent business even with all of that....
You know best. Why does the market value it so highly?
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Max B Gold wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:58 pm
Disoriented wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:33 pm
Eat The Rich wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:14 pm What's that smell?... oh yeh, its Jo Swinson's voting record. Shouldn't take her critics very long to point out that she's an utter creep.
Really?
She does come across as being a bit weird and that's even before we get to her voting record to implement the austerity measures to deny the weakest members of our society a decent life. Her voting record is what one expects from a dirty, stinkin, yella Tory.
If you are referring to 2010, she was in COALITION not governing. If the polls are accurate, she can deliver REMAIN and pump the major parties.

This could be a Borgen moment.
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She seems not to care about referendum results of they don't suit her. Very strange woman.
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Her victory speech did at one point remind me of the much-maligned David Steel Party Conference speech of many years ago …. “Go back to your constituencies and prepare for government”. Well I don’t have a crystal ball and these are uncertain political times, but suspect there is a limit how far the Lib Dems can rise from the paltry number of seats they have.
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EastDerehamO wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:36 am Her victory speech did at one point remind me of the much-maligned David Steel Party Conference speech of many years ago …. “Go back to your constituencies and prepare for government”. Well I don’t have a crystal ball and these are uncertain political times, but suspect there is a limit how far the Lib Dems can rise from the paltry number of seats they have.
There is a limit because of the first past the post voting system. If it keeps these opportunists and Tory second eleven out then it must be a good thing.
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Disoriented wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:12 am
Max B Gold wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:58 pm
Disoriented wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:33 pm

Really?
She does come across as being a bit weird and that's even before we get to her voting record to implement the austerity measures to deny the weakest members of our society a decent life. Her voting record is what one expects from a dirty, stinkin, yella Tory.
If you are referring to 2010, she was in COALITION not governing. If the polls are accurate, she can deliver REMAIN and pump the major parties.

This could be a Borgen moment.
What are you talking about . ? If the polls are accurate it will be the Brexit Party doing all the pumping of the three major political parties .
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Pro-Austerity Tory. But apparently looking at her voting record and, y'know, her actual politics is just Trotskyite bullying.
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I suspect in a GE the Lib Dems, Greens and Brexit party would not make much of an impact.
Votes will be spread around quite evenly between Labour and Tories leaving the others with a few seats here and there

No overall majority and maybe a proper coalition as seen in other EU countries
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Gone are the days when the Liberal Party had such shining lights as Cyril Smith, Clement Freud and Jeremy Thorpe.
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Max B Gold wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:49 am
LittleMate wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:45 am
Max B Gold wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:24 am

You missed out the value of Land and Assets and the fact the existing business was sold for considerably less than its worth OR that the business with its total UK coverage and overseas agreements could actually expand and adapt.
And its still a spent business even with all of that....
You know best. Why does the market value it so highly?
It values it half as much as it did when it first came to market.
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Max B Gold wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:58 pm
Disoriented wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:33 pm
Eat The Rich wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:14 pm What's that smell?... oh yeh, its Jo Swinson's voting record. Shouldn't take her critics very long to point out that she's an utter creep.
Really?
She does come across as being a bit weird and that's even before we get to her voting record to implement the austerity measures to deny the weakest members of our society a decent life. Her voting record is what one expects from a dirty, stinkin, yella Tory.
^
This.
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Disoriented wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:12 am
Max B Gold wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:58 pm
Disoriented wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:33 pm

Really?
She does come across as being a bit weird and that's even before we get to her voting record to implement the austerity measures to deny the weakest members of our society a decent life. Her voting record is what one expects from a dirty, stinkin, yella Tory.
If you are referring to 2010, she was in COALITION not governing. If the polls are accurate, she can deliver REMAIN and pump the major parties.

This could be a Borgen moment.
she was in COALITION not governing - Yes she was. A COALITION GOVERNMENT in case you missed that.
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Jo Swinson calling for a vote of no confidence in Boris is a bit ridiculous . He hasn't even been in office 24 hours for Gods sake . Also agreeing with Caroline Lucas that she wouldn't accept a 2nd vote to leave is pathetic . It's laughable that she has the cheek to call herself a democrat . The LibDems are losing the plot , big time .
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Lib Dems take somewhere in Wales, shame they announced the results in jabber jabber language which none of the candidates understood. Majority of 1400. Labour in fourth place under the glorious leadership of an old racist.
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