To Serve and Protect

[greyhound]

nothing surprises me the way this country is heading.
total shut down is on its way

[Max Fowler]

You would have thought that the police officers he worked with day in day out over 20 years would have used some of their police skills and thought something wasn't quite right with him.

[Friend or fart]

What is even more alarming is that Carrick was in the Parliamentary and Diplomatic Protection Section, as was murderer & rapist Wayne Couzens. This has not been highlighted by the Beeb, which begs many questions. Were Carrick & Couzens muckers? It came out with the Couzens trial that there had been eMails etc and some sort of investigation ( cover-up ) took place. Did these 2 or maybe even more carry out combined ops? I guess journalists dont like asking too many questions on this topic as after all, one investigator got an axe in his head in a pub car park by person(s) unknown!

[Proposition Joe]

You would have thought that the police officers he worked with day in day out over 20 years would have used some of their police skills and thought something wasn't quite right with him.

Be fair, whom amongst our elite crime fighters could have possibly had an inkling the man they called "b*stard Dave" may just have been a wrong'un?

[tuffers#1]

What is even more alarming is that Carrick was in the Parliamentary and Diplomatic Protection Section, as was murderer & rapist Wayne Couzens. This has not been highlighted by the Beeb, which begs many questions. Were Carrick & Couzens muckers? It came out with the Couzens trial that there had been eMails etc and some sort of investigation ( cover-up ) took place. Did these 2 or maybe even more carry out combined ops? I guess journalists dont like asking too many questions on this topic as after all, one investigator got an axe in his head in a pub car park by person(s) unknown!

Or they could have some contacts in parliament who dont need more eyes on them

[CEB]

The thing that’s disturbing me most is that I’m not even slightly surprised

[Admin]

You would have thought that the police officers he worked with day in day out over 20 years would have used some of their police skills and thought something wasn't quite right with him.

Be fair, whom amongst our elite crime fighters could have possibly had an inkling the man they called "b*stard Dave" may just have been a wrong'un?

Be fair to the woodentops here PJ. If they weren't sure there was anything up with Wayne "The Rapist" Couzens, there's no way they could've suspected b*stard Dave is there?

BTW, I'm sure Spen will be along anytime soon with your answer. He's probably a bit busy driving from Newcastle to London in record time again.

[Max Fowler]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/21062047/ ... es-charge/

[Max Fowler]

Would it be easier just to draw up a list of all the Met officers who aren't rapists or nonces or racialists?

[Max Fowler]

1,600 bad apples but the orchard is fine.

https://news.sky.com/story/met-police-r ... f-12788452

[Max B Gold]

1,600 bad apples but the orchard is fine.

https://news.sky.com/story/met-police-r ... f-12788452

In an orchard of 1,600 trees it would be catastrophic. What on earth is causing so many to go bad? Does the entire orchard need to be ripped out and started again?

[BoniO]

1,600 bad apples but the orchard is fine.

https://news.sky.com/story/met-police-r ... f-12788452

Well, as you alluded too earlier, for every one of those 1600 there must be a handful of colleagues who had some kind of inkling that they were "wrong-uns". I'd suggest that they could be added to the total just because they didn't raise the alarm.

[Max Fowler]

1,600 bad apples but the orchard is fine.

https://news.sky.com/story/met-police-r ... f-12788452

Well, as you alluded too earlier, for every one of those 1600 there must be a handful of colleagues who had some kind of inkling that they were "wrong-uns". I'd suggest that they could be added to the total just because they didn't raise the alarm.

Presumably they've not all got giveaway nicknames like b*stard Dave or C**ty Keith, so how could they tell?

[CEB]

Let’s not forget that though his pattern of offending spanned maybe 20 years, the vast majority - let’s say 17 years - are obviously malicious allegations by someone with a grudge, so that’s really only 4 years of serious sexual offending, so he should be promoted, if anything

[Give it to Jabo]

Crisis? What crisis? Is there ANY good news about life in the UK these days??

[Wally Banter]

Many years of cutting corners across public services will inevitably lead to this sort of thing.

[Proposition Joe]

Many years of cutting corners across public services will inevitably lead to this sort of thing.

Get Serco to run the Police, involving the private sector is the only way of ensuring better outcomes for the public.

[Long slender neck]

Mother of God, have AC12 been sitting on their hands all this time?

[Dunners]

There's only one thing I'm interested in and that is catching bent coppers!

[Give it to Jabo]

Many years of cutting corners across public services will inevitably lead to this sort of thing.

Get Serco to run the Police, involving the private sector is the only way of ensuring better outcomes for the public.

Yes, making a great job of running trains and the supply of water to name but two essential services...making a great job of making profits, that is.

Fuel supplies are much more affordable, too

[Give it to Jabo]

There was a Report on the R4 Today programme this morning: it said that the train services in war-torn Ukraine are currently more reliable that those in the UK.

[Max Fowler]

Many years of cutting corners across public services will inevitably lead to this sort of thing.

You student lefties always have to make this about politics and try to score points, don't you?

[StillSpike]

Oh my!

[tuffers#1]

David Carrick sentence 36 life sentences with a minimum of 30 years.

[Proposition Joe]

Too short.