Dartford vs Leyton Orient 20/07/2019
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Re: Dartford vs Leyton Orient 20/07/2019
Ratings if anyone is interested:
Sargent 6
Ling 5
Ekpiteta 6
Happe 5
Coulson 5
Widdowson 5
Brophy 6
Wright 7
Shabani 4
Soutiriou 5
Harrold 5
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Judd 6
Alabi 5
Sargent 6
Ling 5
Ekpiteta 6
Happe 5
Coulson 5
Widdowson 5
Brophy 6
Wright 7
Shabani 4
Soutiriou 5
Harrold 5
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Alabi 5
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Re: Dartford vs Leyton Orient 20/07/2019
No need to get narky Doh the penny obviously hasn't dropped with some. Dartford are anything but a tinpot club, nice ground.dOh Nut wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 6:29 pm Jeez for gods sake we all know about friendly games oh masterful one. Some of us know its also a chance to try things out and give fringe players the opportunity to make a statement. Nobody is going OTT. The fringe players failed to make a case for being any more than fringe players and poor ones at that. Sergeant did well enough though. The others will hardly give Ross selection headaches. The lack of competition bothers me. Especially as Jobi was doing lots of coaching
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Re: Dartford vs Leyton Orient 20/07/2019
What game were you watching? Wright was easily our best player. Kept possession well and played a couple of very nice through balls.
Worst player on the park? Could you honestly say he was worse than Shabani or Ling? Think some people have already got it in for him because he was poor when he played for us before.
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Re: Dartford vs Leyton Orient 20/07/2019
Read my comment again - there is no chance we spent the money received from Bonne and Koroma on those two.Top of the West. wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 5:55 pmWe paid fees for Wilkinson and Angol so that is simply wrong.Disoriented wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 5:42 pmWe sold our best attackers for peanuts and have not invested even those paltry funds back into the team.dOh Nut wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 5:40 pm
We all know itβs a nothing game but it has value. A chance for fringe players, those we may rely on, during a long hard season to show what they can do like Sargent and of course we had a number of probable starters playing.
If people feel there is nothing to be learned from these games fine. But you need to look a little deeper. Ross gave all three second string strikers a go. They contributed very little. Wright spent most of the game playing sideways and by and large our midfield created nothing. Sure no major issue in a friendly but not positive when considering competition for places. Not much.
What I learned from the game is god help us when we lose our main strikers and little competition for the main spots. Didnβt see many of the fringe players giving Ross difficult choices
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Re: Dartford vs Leyton Orient 20/07/2019
Apologies. Their ground is really nice. Good bar and refreshments tooTop of the West. wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 6:41 pmNo need to get narky Doh the penny obviously hasn't dropped with some. Dartford are anything but a tinpot club, nice ground.dOh Nut wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 6:29 pm Jeez for gods sake we all know about friendly games oh masterful one. Some of us know its also a chance to try things out and give fringe players the opportunity to make a statement. Nobody is going OTT. The fringe players failed to make a case for being any more than fringe players and poor ones at that. Sergeant did well enough though. The others will hardly give Ross selection headaches. The lack of competition bothers me. Especially as Jobi was doing lots of coaching
And an electronic score board. We donβt have that or a car park.
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Re: Dartford vs Leyton Orient 20/07/2019
Did they have burgers too? That would really rub it in.dOh Nut wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 7:03 pmApologies. Their ground is really nice. Good bar and refreshments tooTop of the West. wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 6:41 pmNo need to get narky Doh the penny obviously hasn't dropped with some. Dartford are anything but a tinpot club, nice ground.dOh Nut wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 6:29 pm Jeez for gods sake we all know about friendly games oh masterful one. Some of us know its also a chance to try things out and give fringe players the opportunity to make a statement. Nobody is going OTT. The fringe players failed to make a case for being any more than fringe players and poor ones at that. Sergeant did well enough though. The others will hardly give Ross selection headaches. The lack of competition bothers me. Especially as Jobi was doing lots of coaching
And an electronic score board. We donβt have that or a car park.
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Re: Dartford vs Leyton Orient 20/07/2019
Always good to get ratings. Happe and Coulson did what was needed. 6. Widdowson if he could ever learn to shoot would be a 7. Wright I thought was generally non effective and no more than a 5. Had lung not scored then a 4Orient-Jude wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 6:35 pm Ratings if anyone is interested:
Sargent 6
Ling 5
Ekpiteta 6
Happe 5
Coulson 5
Widdowson 5
Brophy 6
Wright 7
Shabani 4
Soutiriou 5
Harrold 5
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Alabi 5
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Re: Dartford vs Leyton Orient 20/07/2019
The local council own the ground and the facilities a bit like Col U, be nice in LBWF built something for us but it will never happen.dOh Nut wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 7:03 pmApologies. Their ground is really nice. Good bar and refreshments tooTop of the West. wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 6:41 pmNo need to get narky Doh the penny obviously hasn't dropped with some. Dartford are anything but a tinpot club, nice ground.dOh Nut wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 6:29 pm Jeez for gods sake we all know about friendly games oh masterful one. Some of us know its also a chance to try things out and give fringe players the opportunity to make a statement. Nobody is going OTT. The fringe players failed to make a case for being any more than fringe players and poor ones at that. Sergeant did well enough though. The others will hardly give Ross selection headaches. The lack of competition bothers me. Especially as Jobi was doing lots of coaching
And an electronic score board. We donβt have that or a car park.
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Re: Dartford vs Leyton Orient 20/07/2019
OK but how much do you think we got for Bonne and Koroma?Disoriented wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 7:01 pmRead my comment again - there is no chance we spent the money received from Bonne and Koroma on those two.Top of the West. wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 5:55 pmWe paid fees for Wilkinson and Angol so that is simply wrong.Disoriented wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 5:42 pm
We sold our best attackers for peanuts and have not invested even those paltry funds back into the team.
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Re: Dartford vs Leyton Orient 20/07/2019
Β£700 000Top of the West. wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 7:22 pmOK but how much do you think we got for Bonne and Koroma?Disoriented wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 7:01 pmRead my comment again - there is no chance we spent the money received from Bonne and Koroma on those two.Top of the West. wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 5:55 pm
We paid fees for Wilkinson and Angol so that is simply wrong.
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Re: Dartford vs Leyton Orient 20/07/2019
Yep, did you expect the owners to reinvest that amount on two new strikers?Disoriented wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 7:26 pmΒ£700 000Top of the West. wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 7:22 pmOK but how much do you think we got for Bonne and Koroma?Disoriented wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 7:01 pm
Read my comment again - there is no chance we spent the money received from Bonne and Koroma on those two.
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Re: Dartford vs Leyton Orient 20/07/2019
No, on a number of players. So far it is clear the money is going elsewhere in the absence of contrary evidence. There is still time of course, but it does not look likely.Top of the West. wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 7:32 pmYep, did you expect the owners to reinvest that amount on two new strikers?Disoriented wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 7:26 pmΒ£700 000Top of the West. wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 7:22 pm
OK but how much do you think we got for Bonne and Koroma?
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Re: Dartford vs Leyton Orient 20/07/2019
I think ultimately most of it will go on players. We may bring in one or two more before the season starts, we need to reinforce midfield and a striker/wide player. May also hold some back for a January or if Embleton proves not to be capable of managing the team. Let's hope that's not the case though.
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Re: Dartford vs Leyton Orient 20/07/2019
NL was absolutely tinpot and I'm glad to see the back of it. The football was crap, refereeing was crap, NL paper was the only thing good about it.Top of the West. wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 6:05 pmVery condescending to call other clubs and teams "tinpot" but you did it all last season as much as you think they are in awe of playing Orient you sound like a premiership fan talking about league one or two side and we all hate those condescending mouthy prem fans, you just come across as being the same when we play a club from a lower division you should show these clubs a bit of respect, it's not like we haven't played Dartford in a friendly in pre season before now is it.gshaw wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 5:52 pmBrill and McAnuff haven't played a minute of pre-season thus far, no suggestion they'll suddenly spring up any time soon ready for the real games to start.Top of the West. wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 5:16 pm So we don't play Brill, McAnuff, Clay, Gorman, JMD, Wilkinson, and Angol all who would probably start or be in the 18 if fit against Cheltenham and most who will play against Bishops Stortford in midweek. Give minutes to players who need them come away with another clean sheet and the usual moaners pop up because it's not good enough.
As said numerous times we won't be playing tinpot crap sides this season who were in awe of playing a team as "big" as Orient. If we're short of options to change a game we'll be punished and we look very thin on the ground for quality outside of the starting XI.
Obviously it's about fitness at the moment not that it's sinking in with some people. We all agree we are a couple of players short still two weeks until our first league game so still time.
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Re: Dartford vs Leyton Orient 20/07/2019
Got any evidence for this or have you just made it up to fit some flimsy argument?Apple Wumble wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 5:38 pm Cant read too much into friendlies, but i'm going to.
Find it interesting that the last 3 games, we've kept a clean sheet and not scored many. Usually pre-season is full of goals, like 6-5s. Partly because you set out to be attacking and score goals. I wonder if this is a sign of things to come and we know our defence is our strong point. Keep it real tight and hope for a goal, rather than attack from the off. Be interesting to see how we start the season, especially as our first two are winnable games.
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Re: Dartford vs Leyton Orient 20/07/2019
Given that Womble speaks more sense on a bad day than you do at your most lucid (i.e. when you are not frothing at the mouth), that is some comment.Millennial Snowflake wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 8:49 pmGot any evidence for this or have you just made it up to fit some flimsy argument?Apple Wumble wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 5:38 pm Cant read too much into friendlies, but i'm going to.
Find it interesting that the last 3 games, we've kept a clean sheet and not scored many. Usually pre-season is full of goals, like 6-5s. Partly because you set out to be attacking and score goals. I wonder if this is a sign of things to come and we know our defence is our strong point. Keep it real tight and hope for a goal, rather than attack from the off. Be interesting to see how we start the season, especially as our first two are winnable games.
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Watching the one you obviously werenβt could of shot twice at goal bottled it his distribution was at best shocking lot of his passing fell short of the intended target and almost got Brophy seriously injured with a no hope through ballOrient-Jude wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 7:01 pmWhat game were you watching? Wright was easily our best player. Kept possession well and played a couple of very nice through balls.
Worst player on the park? Could you honestly say he was worse than Shabani or Ling? Think some people have already got it in for him because he was poor when he played for us before.
This is not about him being here before Iβve watched 3 games now with him playing and I have to say so far Iβm not impressed doesnβt like doing the dirty work and when he does heβs clumsy still loves his sideways passing
Whether this signing was a favour to Josh Wright ie with no club seeing as heβs a friend of the Edinburghβs or whether heβll come good once the proper stuff starts
I wait with baited breathe
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Re: Dartford vs Leyton Orient 20/07/2019
Well heβs correct about the 3 clean sheetsMillennial Snowflake wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 8:49 pmGot any evidence for this or have you just made it up to fit some flimsy argument?Apple Wumble wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 5:38 pm Cant read too much into friendlies, but i'm going to.
Find it interesting that the last 3 games, we've kept a clean sheet and not scored many. Usually pre-season is full of goals, like 6-5s. Partly because you set out to be attacking and score goals. I wonder if this is a sign of things to come and we know our defence is our strong point. Keep it real tight and hope for a goal, rather than attack from the off. Be interesting to see how we start the season, especially as our first two are winnable games.
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Re: Dartford vs Leyton Orient 20/07/2019
This sounds like a carry over from the second half of last season where our defenders are bailing us out with the goals. I must say, I'm not too optimistic at the moment about the forthcoming season.
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Re: Dartford vs Leyton Orient 20/07/2019
And how much do they charge for a kids season ticket? How much have they gone up from last year?Disoriented wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 7:06 pmDid they have burgers too? That would really rub it in.dOh Nut wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 7:03 pmApologies. Their ground is really nice. Good bar and refreshments tooTop of the West. wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 6:41 pm
No need to get narky Doh the penny obviously hasn't dropped with some. Dartford are anything but a tinpot club, nice ground.
And an electronic score board. We donβt have that or a car park.
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Re: Dartford vs Leyton Orient 20/07/2019
Iβm pretty pleased our defence is solid. Itβs a bonus they contribute goals too. Ekpiteta could have got more today. Widdowson will score at some point too, easy to see why heβs not a striker. In fact our defence had the best of the chances and both the goals. Strikers never got a sniff.
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Re: Dartford vs Leyton Orient 20/07/2019
Are you insinuating that our club is trying to dissuade our yoof fans from coming?Tom Chance wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 9:44 pmAnd how much do they charge for a kids season ticket? How much have they gone up from last year?Disoriented wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 7:06 pmDid they have burgers too? That would really rub it in.
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Re: Dartford vs Leyton Orient 20/07/2019
Thank you.Orient-Jude wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 6:35 pm Ratings if anyone is interested:
Sargent 6
Ling 5
Ekpiteta 6
Happe 5
Coulson 5
Widdowson 5
Brophy 6
Wright 7
Shabani 4
Soutiriou 5
Harrold 5
Subs:
Judd 6
Alabi 5
Was that 3-5-2 with Brophy central?
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Re: Dartford vs Leyton Orient 20/07/2019
Not a clue. I was trying to work out our formation. 3-5-2 is a good a guess as any. Was standing behind Ross who was relaying instructions about moving players about. Though I moved on after 30 minutes. Seemed he was trying things out on the hoof. Fair enough for a friendly.CreamofSumYungGai wrote: βSun Jul 21, 2019 7:51 amThank you.Orient-Jude wrote: βSat Jul 20, 2019 6:35 pm Ratings if anyone is interested:
Sargent 6
Ling 5
Ekpiteta 6
Happe 5
Coulson 5
Widdowson 5
Brophy 6
Wright 7
Shabani 4
Soutiriou 5
Harrold 5
Subs:
Judd 6
Alabi 5
Was that 3-5-2 with Brophy central?