Woke watch.

Chat about Leyton Orient (or anything else)

Moderator: Long slender neck

Story of O
Bored office worker
Bored office worker
Posts: 2809
Joined: Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:29 pm
Has thanked: 31 times
Been thanked: 554 times

Re: Woke watch.

Post by Story of O »

Peppa Pig introduces a same sex couple
CEB

Re: Woke watch.

Post by CEB »

Recognition that gay people exist in society and can be portrayed in programmes isn’t “woke”, it’s a natural result of not being homophobic
User avatar
Long slender neck
MB Legend
MB Legend
Posts: 14031
Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:13 am
Has thanked: 2450 times
Been thanked: 3198 times

Re: Woke watch.

Post by Long slender neck »

The characters in peppa pig are animals, not people.
CEB

Re: Woke watch.

Post by CEB »

That’s where “portrayed” comes into it. Are you perhaps aware that Peppa Pig does a neat little trick where it pretends that animals have human personalities?
User avatar
Max B Gold
MB Legend
MB Legend
Posts: 12137
Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:12 pm
Has thanked: 965 times
Been thanked: 2769 times

Re: Woke watch.

Post by Max B Gold »

Long slender neck wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 8:44 am The characters in peppa pig are animals, not people.
Anthropomorphism is the attribution of human traits, emotions, or intentions to non-human entities. It is considered to be an innate tendency of human psychology.
CEB

Re: Woke watch.

Post by CEB »

Didn’t fancy putting it in your own words, no?
Attachments
52F68749-ABA3-4518-A143-AD18003C6D1B.jpeg
52F68749-ABA3-4518-A143-AD18003C6D1B.jpeg (101.74 KiB) Viewed 940 times
User avatar
Long slender neck
MB Legend
MB Legend
Posts: 14031
Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:13 am
Has thanked: 2450 times
Been thanked: 3198 times

Re: Woke watch.

Post by Long slender neck »

CEB wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 9:12 am That’s where “portrayed” comes into it. Are you perhaps aware that Peppa Pig does a neat little trick where it pretends that animals have human personalities?
Im more of a Ben and Holly fan.
greyhound
Tiresome troll
Tiresome troll
Posts: 1355
Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:43 pm
Has thanked: 15 times
Been thanked: 167 times

Re: Woke watch.

Post by greyhound »

if you dont say they
you will end up in nick.
years latter your head could be removed. ⚔️
CEB

Re: Woke watch.

Post by CEB »

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -jail.html

“Everything about her presents as female”
greyhound
Tiresome troll
Tiresome troll
Posts: 1355
Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:43 pm
Has thanked: 15 times
Been thanked: 167 times

Re: Woke watch.

Post by greyhound »

CEB wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:56 pm https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -jail.html

“Everything about her presents as female”
sent to a woman's prison me edds f. in spinning.
CEB

Re: Woke watch.

Post by CEB »

CEB

Re: Woke watch.

Post by CEB »

Mentioning that a child rapist is male is hate speech, according to Sussex plod.
I guess, that just like Brendan (whose snark at my hatefulness I’m, as always, eager to read) the police recognise that everything about her presents as female. At least, in the sense that a nonce who says he’s female is female.
Attachments
8412627B-BF06-4418-8B40-9040F1CAE5BE.jpeg
8412627B-BF06-4418-8B40-9040F1CAE5BE.jpeg (105.98 KiB) Viewed 729 times
User avatar
Dunners
Boardin' 24/7
Boardin' 24/7
Posts: 8702
Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:21 pm
Has thanked: 1027 times
Been thanked: 2404 times

Re: Woke watch.

Post by Dunners »

That's PC gone mad.
User avatar
Long slender neck
MB Legend
MB Legend
Posts: 14031
Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:13 am
Has thanked: 2450 times
Been thanked: 3198 times

Re: Woke watch.

Post by Long slender neck »

'irrelevant'? Hmm.
CEB

Re: Woke watch.

Post by CEB »

I’d recommend finding the trans thread and reading the first few pages again - it has not aged well at all
User avatar
Max B Gold
MB Legend
MB Legend
Posts: 12137
Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:12 pm
Has thanked: 965 times
Been thanked: 2769 times

Re: Woke watch.

Post by Max B Gold »

Dunners wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 12:17 pm That's PC gone mad.
:lol:
CEB

Re: Woke watch.

Post by CEB »

Mick McQuaid wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 8:05 am
Feel free to carry on explaining why you're right but I really don't think there's much else to say on why I'll be sticking to the occasional snide comment rather than engaging.

Please Sir (or Mx) - may I have a snide comment about this post please?
Attachments
0A642FB2-634D-42F2-A9F1-8021363F111A.jpeg
0A642FB2-634D-42F2-A9F1-8021363F111A.jpeg (33.49 KiB) Viewed 696 times
1963B35B-3ED9-4AA7-8434-7B6AACA09635.jpeg
1963B35B-3ED9-4AA7-8434-7B6AACA09635.jpeg (34.68 KiB) Viewed 696 times
User avatar
Long slender neck
MB Legend
MB Legend
Posts: 14031
Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:13 am
Has thanked: 2450 times
Been thanked: 3198 times

Re: Woke watch.

Post by Long slender neck »

I think you should just accept that Mick isnt going to debate you on this.
CEB

Re: Woke watch.

Post by CEB »

LOL
Attachments
21A3508D-5BA3-4487-B974-2421A4D7F07E.jpeg
21A3508D-5BA3-4487-B974-2421A4D7F07E.jpeg (59.28 KiB) Viewed 642 times
User avatar
faldO
Tiresome troll
Tiresome troll
Posts: 1107
Joined: Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:21 pm
Been thanked: 238 times

Re: Woke watch.

Post by faldO »

Virgin Atlantic lets male pilots and crew wear skirts to 'express their true identity'

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/v ... li=AAJsPCA
CEB

Re: Woke watch.

Post by CEB »

faldO wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:32 pm Virgin Atlantic lets male pilots and crew wear skirts to 'express their true identity'

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/v ... li=AAJsPCA
There’s absolutely nothing wrong with respecting the right of employees to dress how they wish, and with recognising that there are people who don’t conform to gender norms. That’s a good thing. A man wearing a skirt doesn’t hurt anyone, and dress codes should not force men and women to dress differently from each other. There’s nothing negative going on here.

As for the pronoun thing? Meh - in the context of corporate nonsense, addressing customers how they’d prefer isn’t the worst thing in the world (though it’ll be interesting to see how any abstainers fared if they faced consequences for refusing to do so)
CEB

Re: Woke watch.

Post by CEB »

https://archive.ph/tBdqb

Trustee of Mermaids resigns after it emerges that he gave a talk to a group sympathetic to paedophiles. Or Minor Attracted People, as they prefer to be known…
User avatar
Max Fowler
Boardin' 24/7
Boardin' 24/7
Posts: 5497
Joined: Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:18 pm
Has thanked: 509 times
Been thanked: 1262 times

Re: Woke watch.

Post by Max Fowler »

CEB wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 1:23 pm
faldO wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:32 pm Virgin Atlantic lets male pilots and crew wear skirts to 'express their true identity'

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/v ... li=AAJsPCA
There’s absolutely nothing wrong with respecting the right of employees to dress how they wish, and with recognising that there are people who don’t conform to gender norms. That’s a good thing. A man wearing a skirt doesn’t hurt anyone, and dress codes should not force men and women to dress differently from each other. There’s nothing negative going on here.

As for the pronoun thing? Meh - in the context of corporate nonsense, addressing customers how they’d prefer isn’t the worst thing in the world (though it’ll be interesting to see how any abstainers fared if they faced consequences for refusing to do so)
I’m in full agreement with your comments in this post. As I am with your viewpoints on the trans debate.

BUT

Look at the difference in how you’ve responded to this, compared to how you respond to the likes of mick mcquaid.
CEB

Re: Woke watch.

Post by CEB »

If faldO responds without answering any of my points, but implying that he could if only he could be bothered to, I’d soon post at him in a tone suggesting ridicule and disdain too.

But in all seriousness, I think anyone claiming to be progressive who buys into trans activism can initially be given the benefit of the doubt - it’s easy to just assume that it’s a worthy cause and those who take issue are bigots. But if you refuse to acknowledge any of the demonstrable issues, and double down or opt out in a way that even OFF would think was a bit obvious, then you’re an bumhole actively supporting a regressive, backwards, sexist set of values and organisations. People like Mick McQuaid have made criticising groups like Mermaids have social consequences, and if you read the link above, some pretty dodgy people have benefited as a result
User avatar
Dunners
Boardin' 24/7
Boardin' 24/7
Posts: 8702
Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:21 pm
Has thanked: 1027 times
Been thanked: 2404 times

Re: Woke watch.

Post by Dunners »

One of the more sinister outcomes of this whole 'debate' is how it is providing cover for obvious far-right extremists to latch onto something legitimate, so that they can then try and legitimise their other views.
Post Reply