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Re: Tory Watch

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spen666 wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 10:18 am
Gary the Plumber wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 9:10 am
spen666 wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 7:02 am

If you want the stats, do the research. I'm not making any comparison between Labour and any other government.


Whether the Daily Mail quote the soundbite or not doesn't change the facts about Labour governments & unemployment namely that :

every Labour government, apart from the short McDonald government of approx 9 months, has left power with unemployment higher than when it took power.
Ok, in which case I'll add:

Every Tory government has left power with unemployment higher than when it took power.

This is easy.
Except that is not true



The labour one however is true

every Labour government, apart from the short McDonald government of approx 9 months, has left power with unemployment higher than when it took power.




Besides, my post was not a comparison between parties, it was a responses to Anthem of Hope saying Labour aimed to help the working man. I was pointing out the difference between intentions and the product.


Sadly you seem to want yo turn it I to a false comparison between parties by making up lies
No comparison, just adding some balance. I can do big and bold too


Every Tory government has left power with unemployment higher than when it took power.
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Re: Tory Watch

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Gary the Plumber wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 11:12 am
spen666 wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 10:18 am
Gary the Plumber wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 9:10 am

Ok, in which case I'll add:

Every Tory government has left power with unemployment higher than when it took power.

This is easy.
Except that is not true



The labour one however is true

every Labour government, apart from the short McDonald government of approx 9 months, has left power with unemployment higher than when it took power.




Besides, my post was not a comparison between parties, it was a responses to Anthem of Hope saying Labour aimed to help the working man. I was pointing out the difference between intentions and the product.


Sadly you seem to want yo turn it I to a false comparison between parties by making up lies
No comparison, just adding some balance. I can do big and bold too


Every Tory government has left power with unemployment higher than when it took power.
Except you are making up things.

It is not true that every Tory government has left power with unemployment higher than when it took power
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Re: Tory Watch

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Prove it.
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Oh no, someone has triggered Spen into some kind of loop where he just repeats himself over and over. What was his last one? "Jeffrey Epstein has as many convictions for rape as you and I?"
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I think there another one where his line of argument was gradually whittled down to “50 is less than 200”, or something to that effect.
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Wally Banter wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 12:40 pm I think there another one where his line of argument was gradually whittled down to “50 is less than 200”, or something to that effect.
Prove it.
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Sustained.
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Anthem of Hope wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 12:52 pm
Long slender neck wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 11:58 am Oh no, someone has triggered Spen into some kind of loop where he just repeats himself over and over. What was his last one? "Jeffrey Epstein has as many convictions for rape as you and I?"
I made my position and the reasons a few entries up this thread

What I fail to understand with Spen who is apparently
- a practising lawyer ( solicitor)
- a Fellow of the Chartered Institute of Accountants

His propensity to generate this type of conflict with other boarders who have not got I assume similar professional attributes- but are intelligent.

Then we get days of correction of facts or statements of thought conveyed as if it is a court of law.

This is a football forum board of views,that all, and it really does not matter if anyone and I mean all of us cannot find the data / give wrong data in good faith / or just have different views that are not substantial in their conclusion.

If Spen qualifications and career are true I respect that fact, but his jaundiced approach on here to others including historically being damning about me as I written above gives me the impression his character is flawed.
Flawed he may be, but at least he can drive from Newcastle to Leyton in 3 hours!
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Re: Tory Watch

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Anthem of Hope wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 12:52 pm
Long slender neck wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 11:58 am

What I fail to understand with Spen who is apparently
- a practising lawyer ( solicitor)
- a Fellow of the Chartered Institute of Accountants

His propensity to generate this type of conflict with other boarders who have not got I assume similar professional attributes- but are intelligent.

Then we get days of correction of facts or statements of thought conveyed as if it is a court of law.

This is a football forum board of views,that all, and it really does not matter if anyone and I mean all of us cannot find the data / give wrong data in good faith / or just have different views that are not substantial in their conclusion.

If Spen qualifications and career are true I respect that fact, but his jaundiced approach on here to others including historically being damning about me as I written above gives me the impression his character is flawed.
He isnt a very good lawyer

I absolutely battered him on here
Regarding a legal case & he thought he was doing that to me . However i showed him his some mistake after originally mentioning the "clue" & he still missed it &
Argued on .
Oh it was fun .
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Anthem of Hope wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 1:55 pm
ComeOnYouOs wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 1:36 pm
Anthem of Hope wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 12:52 pm

I made my position and the reasons a few entries up this thread

What I fail to understand with Spen who is apparently
- a practising lawyer ( solicitor)
- a Fellow of the Chartered Institute of Accountants

His propensity to generate this type of conflict with other boarders who have not got I assume similar professional attributes- but are intelligent.

Then we get days of correction of facts or statements of thought conveyed as if it is a court of law.

This is a football forum board of views,that all, and it really does not matter if anyone and I mean all of us cannot find the data / give wrong data in good faith / or just have different views that are not substantial in their conclusion.

If Spen qualifications and career are true I respect that fact, but his jaundiced approach on here to others including historically being damning about me as I written above gives me the impression his character is flawed.
Flawed he may be, but at least he can drive from Newcastle to Leyton in 3 hours!
I believe he implied or admitted that he was speeding
I never saw that admission, but speeding or not it's still impossible.
300 miles, in three hours , = 100 mph average speed.
Totally impossible
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Anthem of Hope wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 12:52 pm
Long slender neck wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 11:58 am Oh no, someone has triggered Spen into some kind of loop where he just repeats himself over and over. What was his last one? "Jeffrey Epstein has as many convictions for rape as you and I?"
I made my position and the reasons a few entries up this thread

What I fail to understand with Spen who is apparently
- a practising lawyer ( solicitor)
- a Fellow of the Chartered Institute of Accountants

His propensity to generate this type of conflict with other boarders who have not got I assume similar professional attributes- but are intelligent.

Then we get days of correction of facts or statements of thought conveyed as if it is a court of law.

This is a football forum board of views,that all, and it really does not matter if anyone and I mean all of us cannot find the data / give wrong data in good faith / or just have different views that are not substantial in their conclusion.

If Spen qualifications and career are true I respect that fact, but his jaundiced approach on here to others including historically being damning about me as I written above gives me the impression his character is flawed.
All of that is true but he's one of our top Boarders.
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I've done no research but with the Tories spraying cash about has anyone checked that the magic money tree they've uncovered is up to it.
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Johnson's just gone and changed the ministerial code so that he doesn't need to resign over breaches. One of the reasons is to “avoid incentives for trivial or vexatious complaints, which may be made for partisan reasons.”

F*cking 'ell! That's too much, even for a rabid right-wing fascist like me.
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Bloke is SCUM ! Story party needs to save whatever ounce of goodwill they can !
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tuffers#1 wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 7:08 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 6:42 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 6:41 pm



Thats the 2nd mention on here .
Reuters have been alerted &
Are Investigating .
No smoke without fire.
Exactly what I said to my contact at Reuters !
Apparently there is a super injunction in place. Carrie doesn't live here any more
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3 more letters put in today , people finding there own stolen cars police are so stretched , dead babies in peoples fridges cos hospitals are f*cked , Well done to b*dge &the scummy electorate who put him there !
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Couple of tweets this evening claiming that 54 letters are in.
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Hope so
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https://www.tiktok.com/@10downingstreet ... 0757638405?

Johnson's love for Peppa Pig ....
What an ambassador he is!
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The worst Prime Minister this.Country has ever had .

Time to go .
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Anthem of Hope wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 11:49 am I let Gary and Spen play table tennis with their dual of unemployment numbers

Game set and match at 21 whoever gets there first
I take it you're no spring chicken AoH - they changed the rules to make it up to 11 years ago
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east saxon gas wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 7:22 am
Anthem of Hope wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 11:49 am I let Gary and Spen play table tennis with their dual of unemployment numbers

Game set and match at 21 whoever gets there first
I take it you're no spring chicken AoH - they changed the rules to make it up to 11 years ago
PS. not for self-serving reasons tho
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Would be rather entertaining for the 54 threshold to be reached at the same time as Durham Constabulary fining Sir Beer Korma
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Currywurst and Chips wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 8:33 am Would be rather entertaining for the 54 threshold to be reached at the same time as Durham Constabulary fining Sir Beer Korma
It's pathetic that this disunited nation in crisis has a leader who makes up nicknames for the opposition leader and uses it at PMQs. We are being led by an IMBECILE.
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Anthem of Hope wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 5:24 am
tuffers#1 wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 4:22 am The worst Prime Minister this.Country has ever had .

Time to go .
I think there have been some shockers both blue / red and liberal ( Thorpe )
But tuff I agree he should GO
Not many were as Blatantly corrupt & Incapable
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