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On the day in 1997, Labour won 418 seats in the General Election, giving them a majority of 179.
In their worst election defeat since 1906, the Conservatives retained just 165 MPs, with their smallest share of the vote since 1832.
In their worst election defeat since 1906, the Conservatives retained just 165 MPs, with their smallest share of the vote since 1832.
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Back at a time when they listened and understood what voters wanted with leadership people believed could deliver. Now they are more interested in telling the electorate what they think they should want. And yet to elect a leader that generates confidence that they could even deliver that.
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You sure it wasnt people just being sick of 20 years of Tory SLEAZE ?Dohnut wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 10:42 amBack at a time when they listened and understood what voters wanted with leadership people believed could deliver. Now they are more interested in telling the electorate what they think they should want. And yet to elect a leader that generates confidence that they could even deliver that.
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Starmer is making Labour electable again after the far left infiltrationDohnut wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 10:42 amBack at a time when they listened and understood what voters wanted with leadership people believed could deliver. Now they are more interested in telling the electorate what they think they should want. And yet to elect a leader that generates confidence that they could even deliver that.
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It's just a pity that he had to turn Labour into Red Tories to do it.Long slender neck wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 2:19 pmStarmer is making Labour electable again after the far left infiltrationDohnut wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 10:42 amBack at a time when they listened and understood what voters wanted with leadership people believed could deliver. Now they are more interested in telling the electorate what they think they should want. And yet to elect a leader that generates confidence that they could even deliver that.
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The problem Labour lefties just don’t get. Keep peddling the momentum stuff and the party won’t get elected. It’s not about what a few fanatics want, it’s about what the electorate want. Something Labour have long since forgotten. Something Blair understood clearly.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 2:37 pmIt's just a pity that he had to turn Labour into Red Tories to do it.Long slender neck wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 2:19 pmStarmer is making Labour electable again after the far left infiltrationDohnut wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 10:42 am
Back at a time when they listened and understood what voters wanted with leadership people believed could deliver. Now they are more interested in telling the electorate what they think they should want. And yet to elect a leader that generates confidence that they could even deliver that.
Produce policies that are acceptable to people and Labour may get elected. It’s the people that matter, not the stuff peddled by a few fanatics.
This is not complex. People don’t exist for the sake of the party.
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What people do is get all wound up in their own rhetoric. In case you haven’t noticed, sleaze is not limited to the Tories and the average Joe out there understands this. Bullying, lies (sorry honest mistakes), beergate. All just as bad, they are as bad as each other.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 1:55 pmYou sure it wasnt people just being sick of 20 years of Tory SLEAZE ?Dohnut wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 10:42 amBack at a time when they listened and understood what voters wanted with leadership people believed could deliver. Now they are more interested in telling the electorate what they think they should want. And yet to elect a leader that generates confidence that they could even deliver that.
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Beergate 1 beer with a pizza at a by election campaign isnt the same as b.y.o.b to the garden or birthdaygate or xmas quiz gate or " its a work event" o sorry pm ill resignDohnut wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 2:50 pmWhat people do is get all wound up in their own rhetoric. In case you haven’t noticed, sleaze is not limited to the Tories and the average Joe out there understands this. Bullying, lies (sorry honest mistakes), beergate. All just as bad, they are as bad as each other.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 1:55 pmYou sure it wasnt people just being sick of 20 years of Tory SLEAZE ?Dohnut wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 10:42 am
Back at a time when they listened and understood what voters wanted with leadership people believed could deliver. Now they are more interested in telling the electorate what they think they should want. And yet to elect a leader that generates confidence that they could even deliver that.
What i know about average joe is that there f#cking raging that there relatives were allowed to die alone . if you spent more time in tory watch thread youd know this !
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Daily Mail showing Starmer breaking Lockdown rules
Starmer with Frank Dobson who died in 2019
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How is this breaking lockdown rules ?one o in huntingdon wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 3:20 pm Daily Mail showing Starmer breaking Lockdown rules
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Starmer with Frank Dobson who died in 2019
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This event happenned in May ( Beergate)
Lockdown rules were being eased by March .
So in effect after lockdown rules .
Its a shame the daily Fail cant get there timelines to fit
With Tory covid restrictions being lifted .
Also why the picture of Dobson who died in nov 2019 ?
The Fail reall are having a shocker here
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It happened before Covid in 2019, nothing to see here at all
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The policy of relatives dying alone was sensible, if we'd done it sooner a lot less would have died. Be angry Boris had a party, but the policy in place was right.
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Nah cant agree with that, proper ppe outfits would have allowed patients to say goodbye , unfortunately , none of this happened until end april-ish , & by then to many were affected !Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 3:31 pmThe policy of relatives dying alone was sensible, if we'd done it sooner a lot less would have died. Be angry Boris had a party, but the policy in place was right.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52299590
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So what we are talking about is degrees of sleaze. Fair enough. Yous sh*tty behaviour is worse than my sh*tty behaviour.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 3:12 pmBeergate 1 beer with a pizza at a by election campaign isnt the same as b.y.o.b to the garden or birthdaygate or xmas quiz gate or " its a work event" o sorry pm ill resignDohnut wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 2:50 pmWhat people do is get all wound up in their own rhetoric. In case you haven’t noticed, sleaze is not limited to the Tories and the average Joe out there understands this. Bullying, lies (sorry honest mistakes), beergate. All just as bad, they are as bad as each other.
What i know about average joe is that there f#cking raging that there relatives were allowed to die alone . if you spent more time in tory watch thread youd know this !
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Are you really that stupid that you cant see the difference ? 1 event beergate happened after full covid restrictions were lifted , tory party gates happened under full lockdown rules ! f*ck me no wonder the tories con these fools so easily .Dohnut wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 4:12 pmSo what we are talking about is degrees of sleaze. Fair enough. Yous sh*tty behaviour is worse than my sh*tty behaviour.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 3:12 pmBeergate 1 beer with a pizza at a by election campaign isnt the same as b.y.o.b to the garden or birthdaygate or xmas quiz gate or " its a work event" o sorry pm ill resignDohnut wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 2:50 pm
What people do is get all wound up in their own rhetoric. In case you haven’t noticed, sleaze is not limited to the Tories and the average Joe out there understands this. Bullying, lies (sorry honest mistakes), beergate. All just as bad, they are as bad as each other.
What i know about average joe is that there f#cking raging that there relatives were allowed to die alone . if you spent more time in tory watch thread youd know this !
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Excuses. And the lie that what’s her face wasn’t there until the video footage, it then becomes and honest mistake. Bullying, an honest mistake etc. open your eyes. I’m no apologist for the Tories, let alone Boris who I despise. But continue to fool yourself. So much sh*t from all parties of late. Grow up. What we are talking about is degrees of sleaze. That is pretty damned obvious.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 4:27 pmAre you really that stupid that you cant see the difference ? 1 event beergate happened after full covid restrictions were lifted , tory party gates happened under full lockdown rules ! f*ck me no wonder the tories con these fools so easily .Dohnut wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 4:12 pmSo what we are talking about is degrees of sleaze. Fair enough. Yous sh*tty behaviour is worse than my sh*tty behaviour.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 3:12 pm
Beergate 1 beer with a pizza at a by election campaign isnt the same as b.y.o.b to the garden or birthdaygate or xmas quiz gate or " its a work event" o sorry pm ill resign
What i know about average joe is that there f#cking raging that there relatives were allowed to die alone . if you spent more time in tory watch thread youd know this !
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why are you so hot & bothered for her ? you are an apologist for the t*ries. not excuses, rules is rules you either break em or you dont. you keep deluding yerself tho !Dohnut wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 4:35 pmExcuses. And the lie that what’s her face wasn’t there until the video footage, it then becomes and honest mistake. Bullying, an honest mistake etc. open your eyes. I’m no apologist for the Tories, let alone Boris who I despise. But continue to fool yourself. So much sh*t from all parties of late. Grow up. What we are talking about is degrees of sleaze. That is pretty damned obvious.
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If I didn't know better I would have said our free press is just making things up. Propaganda I believe it's called.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 3:28 pmHow is this breaking lockdown rules ?one o in huntingdon wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 3:20 pm Daily Mail showing Starmer breaking Lockdown rules
FRvV-c1X0AAmJOA.jpg
Starmer with Frank Dobson who died in 2019
FRvV-c-XoAADIAF.jpg
This event happenned in May ( Beergate)
Lockdown rules were being eased by March .
So in effect after lockdown rules .
Its a shame the daily Fail cant get there timelines to fit
With Tory covid restrictions being lifted .
Also why the picture of Dobson who died in nov 2019 ?
The Fail reall are having a shocker here
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No Maxy just conning the soft folk is what it is .Max B Gold wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 4:47 pmIf I didn't know better I would have said our free press is just making things up. Propaganda I believe it's called.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 3:28 pmHow is this breaking lockdown rules ?one o in huntingdon wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 3:20 pm Daily Mail showing Starmer breaking Lockdown rules
FRvV-c1X0AAmJOA.jpg
Starmer with Frank Dobson who died in 2019
FRvV-c-XoAADIAF.jpg
This event happenned in May ( Beergate)
Lockdown rules were being eased by March .
So in effect after lockdown rules .
Its a shame the daily Fail cant get there timelines to fit
With Tory covid restrictions being lifted .
Also why the picture of Dobson who died in nov 2019 ?
The Fail reall are having a shocker here
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But aren’t Labour supposed to be lefties?Dohnut wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 2:46 pmThe problem Labour lefties just don’t get.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 2:37 pmIt's just a pity that he had to turn Labour into Red Tories to do it.Long slender neck wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 2:19 pm
Starmer is making Labour electable again after the far left infiltration
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I’m sure somewhere I said Momemtum! That lot of the too far left.Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 10:27 pm Oh. Who are the lefties supposed to vote for then?
Hearing rumours Blair is advising Starmer. Need to look into that to make sure it’s not just another nothing story. Sort of left of centre.