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Currywurst and Chips wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:52 pm Saved the club, took us to our highest postion for a generation, fought bravely against West Ham moving in, gave me the most exciting season of my lifetime and came within a whisker of Championship football.

Hearn is a club legend
You seemed to have omitted ‘feathered his nest?’
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Sad to say, when one announces to many a stranger that one is an Os supporter, invariably one hears “Barry Hearn!”
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BH is a master of self promotion. I have always been told self promotion is no recommendation. I think that this is a truism. See for example Donald Trump ( the same ilk ). Anyone else got any examples? I think you will find they are all gits. Oh yes! Jimmy Saville another example.
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My only issue here is to ask what else did people expect? As far as I'm concerned Barry Hearn did OK by Orient (plenty other clubs who'd have been glad to have him instead of the chancers they did get) but if you expected BH to do anything other than put his own financial interests first then you simply weren't paying attention.
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EH16 wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:28 am My only issue here is to ask what else did people expect? As far as I'm concerned Barry Hearn did OK by Orient (plenty other clubs who'd have been glad to have him instead of the chancers they did get) but if you expected BH to do anything other than put his own financial interests first then you simply weren't paying attention.
How on earth did he do ok by us? Have you been paying attention?

He sold us to a madman and stole the ground, even weaselling his way out of the 50% profit share promise by some crafty accounting.
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Currywurst and Chips wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:52 pm Saved the club, took us to our highest postion for a generation, fought bravely against West Ham moving in, gave me the most exciting season of my lifetime and came within a whisker of Championship football.

Hearn is a club legend
Also gave us the chance to watch legends like Peter Shilton and Ray Wilkins play, introduced the red carpet walk ons and even brought back Taxi as our walk on music. Hero.
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Gary the Plumber wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:30 pm
EH16 wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:28 am My only issue here is to ask what else did people expect? As far as I'm concerned Barry Hearn did OK by Orient (plenty other clubs who'd have been glad to have him instead of the chancers they did get) but if you expected BH to do anything other than put his own financial interests first then you simply weren't paying attention.
How on earth did he do ok by us? Have you been paying attention?

He sold us to a madman and stole the ground, even weaselling his way out of the 50% profit share promise by some crafty accounting.
He stole the lease from LBWF . LOFC have never owned it .
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So when it’s Hearn, he’s a b*stard. When it’s the new owners protecting their wealth, it’s all ok?
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BiggsyMalone wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:50 pm So when it’s Hearn, he’s a b*stard. When it’s the new owners protecting their wealth, it’s all ok?
Yes but difference is the new owners knew they were buying something without many tangible assets, just a name, Hearn cleared away all the development potential and is still there as the main man. Everything will have to go by him as Freeholder. Hearn was good for the club by keeping finances in the black but exhausted all avenues with it after he feathered his nest and moved on.
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Gary the Plumber wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:30 pm
EH16 wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:28 am My only issue here is to ask what else did people expect? As far as I'm concerned Barry Hearn did OK by Orient (plenty other clubs who'd have been glad to have him instead of the chancers they did get) but if you expected BH to do anything other than put his own financial interests first then you simply weren't paying attention.
How on earth did he do ok by us? Have you been paying attention?

He sold us to a madman and stole the ground, even weaselling his way out of the 50% profit share promise by some crafty accounting.
You seem to be a very angry individual. What I ACTUALLY said was 'AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED BARRY HEARN DID OK', the key here being the first 6 words of my statement. That clearly implies this is my OPINION and, further, that others may have an entirely different view. That's fine by me if they do. I see no need to get into a shouting match about it. Perhaps a similarly mature approach from you would make you a more amenable individual.
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EH16 wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:50 pm
Gary the Plumber wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:30 pm
EH16 wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:28 am My only issue here is to ask what else did people expect? As far as I'm concerned Barry Hearn did OK by Orient (plenty other clubs who'd have been glad to have him instead of the chancers they did get) but if you expected BH to do anything other than put his own financial interests first then you simply weren't paying attention.
How on earth did he do ok by us? Have you been paying attention?

He sold us to a madman and stole the ground, even weaselling his way out of the 50% profit share promise by some crafty accounting.
You seem to be a very angry individual. What I ACTUALLY said was 'AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED BARRY HEARN DID OK', the key here being the first 6 words of my statement. That clearly implies this is my OPINION and, further, that others may have an entirely different view. That's fine by me if they do. I see no need to get into a shouting match about it. Perhaps a similarly mature approach from you would make you a more amenable individual.
Yes, it’s definitely me that seems like the very angry individual in this little exchange. 😁
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BiggsyMalone wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:50 pm So when it’s Hearn, he’s a b*stard. When it’s the new owners protecting their wealth, it’s all ok?
The new owners have nothing left to take from us.
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Someone called Jeffrey Smith told me on FB he saved the club. I can find no reference to this saviour
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Anthem of Hope wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:08 pm The saga of Hearn is a painful reminder of a person acting in a devious latent manner for their own benefit.

We all know the history

They talk about projected building costs exceeding the original budget but I am a qualified quantity surveyor and some years ago on the old board this subject was exhausted - all I say now is it appears the cost planning was not done correctly in a robust way re the steel / the concrete / other construction elements / and the excavated material which from memory was carted away in a non programme manner to save a change in the taxation associated costs.

I was not part of the team for design / cost plans / tendering process - but from what I read on the old forum it seems it was grossly flawed the process and the way Hearn reported it to others was dismal putting it in a polite description,
Remember too that Hearn’s longtime CEO Matt Porter still retains an important role with in the club. The Hearn legacy lingers on!😕
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Gary the Plumber wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:07 pm
EH16 wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:50 pm
Gary the Plumber wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:30 pm

How on earth did he do ok by us? Have you been paying attention?

He sold us to a madman and stole the ground, even weaselling his way out of the 50% profit share promise by some crafty accounting.
You seem to be a very angry individual. What I ACTUALLY said was 'AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED BARRY HEARN DID OK', the key here being the first 6 words of my statement. That clearly implies this is my OPINION and, further, that others may have an entirely different view. That's fine by me if they do. I see no need to get into a shouting match about it. Perhaps a similarly mature approach from you would make you a more amenable individual.
Yes, it’s definitely me that seems like the very angry individual in this little exchange. 😁
Glad you realise it. FYI, the bits I put in bold were just for emphasis as you'd obviously missed it first time.
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redintheface wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 9:43 am
Anthem of Hope wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:08 pm The saga of Hearn is a painful reminder of a person acting in a devious latent manner for their own benefit.

We all know the history

They talk about projected building costs exceeding the original budget but I am a qualified quantity surveyor and some years ago on the old board this subject was exhausted - all I say now is it appears the cost planning was not done correctly in a robust way re the steel / the concrete / other construction elements / and the excavated material which from memory was carted away in a non programme manner to save a change in the taxation associated costs.

I was not part of the team for design / cost plans / tendering process - but from what I read on the old forum it seems it was grossly flawed the process and the way Hearn reported it to others was dismal putting it in a polite description,
Remember too that Hearn’s longtime CEO Matt Porter still retains an important role with in the club. The Hearn legacy lingers on!😕
Matt Porter got Russell Slade into the club?
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Gary the Plumber wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:08 pm
BiggsyMalone wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:50 pm So when it’s Hearn, he’s a b*stard. When it’s the new owners protecting their wealth, it’s all ok?
The new owners have nothing left to take from us.
Kept Orient afloat for years with his own money, got promotions and almost to the Championship. He may have taken out of the club but these owners are doing the same thing.

These owners had a 6 year plan of getting into League Onr and are no where near promotion.
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Anthem of Hope wrote: Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:38 am The definition of a Legend in the Oxford Dictionary does not match up to Hearn character and in my mind absolutely should not be classified as a Legend - no way !
Legend?

Change the Leg to Bell. I’ll go along with that.
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Currywurst and Chips wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:52 pm Saved the club, took us to our highest postion for a generation, fought bravely against West Ham moving in, gave me the most exciting season of my lifetime and came within a whisker of Championship football.

Hearn is a club legend
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Mackie's got his signed copy.

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As if he can read.
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Main letter in the Racing Post today is about how Barry Hearn is so urgently needed to sort out the Racing Industry.

Put-up job?
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