Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe

[Dunners]

Shes pretty hot imo.

I agree. And Richard was looking shattered in that press conference.

[spen666]

This lady does not seem to appreciate much, slagging off Governments past and present, having a go at her hard pressed husband for thanking the Government for her release, yet spent the weekend at a Government mansion resting. Certainly seems to lack tact. Left Iran for the freedom and democracy of our great nation now biting the hand that feeds her. I bet her marriage will be on the rocks soon unless she gets real.

Are you serious?
Ffs, what a terrible post. This woman has been let down by the government for 6 years and you post bollocks like this.
We wouldn't pay Iran 400,000,000 pounds we owed them, and Nazanin was left high and dry
Boris Johnson, when he was home secretary did her no favours, and only when the oil from Russia could be in short supply, does the government pay Iran the money it rightly owed them.
If I was Nazanin, i'd have shown my anger in a more forceful way than she did
This government is totally useless in everything they do

Since when has it been acceptable to pay ransoms for someone who has gone on holiday to another country?

Since when has it been acceptable to pay ransoms for someone who has gone on holiday to another country and then been convicted by a court of committing criminal offences whilst there?

[Dextercoindexter]

This lady does not seem to appreciate much, slagging off Governments past and present, having a go at her hard pressed husband for thanking the Government for her release, yet spent the weekend at a Government mansion resting. Certainly seems to lack tact. Left Iran for the freedom and democracy of our great nation now biting the hand that feeds her. I bet her marriage will be on the rocks soon unless she gets real.

Are you serious?
Ffs, what a terrible post. This woman has been let down by the government for 6 years and you post bollocks like this.
We wouldn't pay Iran 400,000,000 pounds we owed them, and Nazanin was left high and dry
Boris Johnson, when he was home secretary did her no favours, and only when the oil from Russia could be in short supply, does the government pay Iran the money it rightly owed them.
If I was Nazanin, i'd have shown my anger in a more forceful way than she did
This government is totally useless in everything they do

She was advised numerous times by the Foreign Office not to travel to Iran.

[Long slender neck]

Prove it

[tuffers#1]

Are you serious?
Ffs, what a terrible post. This woman has been let down by the government for 6 years and you post bollocks like this.
We wouldn't pay Iran 400,000,000 pounds we owed them, and Nazanin was left high and dry
Boris Johnson, when he was home secretary did her no favours, and only when the oil from Russia could be in short supply, does the government pay Iran the money it rightly owed them.
If I was Nazanin, i'd have shown my anger in a more forceful way than she did
This government is totally useless in everything they do

Since when has it been acceptable to pay ransoms for someone who has gone on holiday to another country?

Since when has it been acceptable to pay ransoms for someone who has gone on holiday to another country and then been convicted by a court of committing criminal offences whilst there?

Since Abdelbaset al-Megrahi ?

[Long slender neck]

What sort of justice system releases a criminal for a ransom?

[The Mindsweep]

This has turned into an ugly thread. Some of the comments abhorrent

[Story of O]

What sort of justice system releases a criminal for a ransom?

A corrupt one?

[Dextercoindexter]

Prove it

I refer you to the Foreign Office, especially ‘Dual Nationals’ and travelling to Terrorist States.

[Dextercoindexter]

Shes pretty hot imo.

I agree. And Richard was looking shattered in that press conference.

He may have been on the nest all night , making up for lost time.

[Chief crazy horse]

I have a feeling that's what the post was inferring.

[spen666]

Prove it

I refer you to the Foreign Office, especially ‘Duel Nationals’ and travelling to Terrorist States.

Do they use swords or pistols?

[StillSpike]

Prove it

I refer you to the Foreign Office, especially ‘Duel Nationals’ and travelling to Terrorist States.

Is that the advice that the FO gave 2 and a half years after her arrest - in the wake of both her arrest and that sentencing of Aras Amiri ?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... -ratcliffe

"The Foreign Office had in September warned dual nationals against all but essential travel, the first time it had provided specific travel advice for a particular group of British people, due to the treatment of Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe, a dual national found guilty of spying by the Iranian government more than three years ago"

Or some different advice that she'd been given before travelling there, to which you can provide some link?

[Dextercoindexter]

Not being funny, would you go to Afghanistan as a duel National from the safe haven of UK to lecture?

Some people should take personal responsibilities more seriously in my view, especially if you have a young child in tow.

Historically, some Brits think the Foreign Office can perform miracles and push string up hill when the mud hits the fan.

[Dunners]

I don't think there was any FCO advice against travelling to Iran at the time. And plenty of people with family connections travel to Iran every year from the UK without incident.

This is a complex case. Anyone suggesting that we should just have paid up a £400million debt, to a hostile regime that overthrew the regime at the time the deal was made, was subject to sanctions, and has taken a dual national hostage really isn't thinking things through. I wouldn't be surprised to find out in due course that the only reason we have paid up now is due to the US leaning on us and shifting foreign policy following the situation with Russia.

I'm happy that she's back with her family, and can certainly understand (and agree) with her criticism of successive Foreign Secretaries. But everyone would do well to remember that the real villain of the piece here is Iran. Should anyone travel there and come unstuck then they will deserve no sympathy.

[Dunners]

...also, after what she's been through, I think she more than deserves to let off a bit of steam and not have people jumping on her and whipping up a hate storm.

[Dextercoindexter]

Prove it

I refer you to the Foreign Office, especially ‘Duel Nationals’ and travelling to Terrorist States.

Do they use swords or pistols?

Word checker my phone sorry. Glad it was the highlight of your day friend.

[Currywurst and Chips]

This place becomes more like Twitter day 465

[LeighO]

Not being funny, would you go to Afghanistan as a duel National from the safe haven of UK to lecture?

Some people should take personal responsibilities more seriously in my view, especially if you have a young child in tow.

Historically, some Brits think the Foreign Office can perform miracles and push string up hill when the mud hits the fan.

To be fair to the F.O. a certain lazy underprepared Foreign Secretary did manage to make unguarded comments that got her sentence extended; it’s not like they did nothing.

[Currywurst and Chips]

While what Boris said was a great example of why he was unsuitable for high office

The attack line that had he not said it Iran would've just shrugged and said, "Maybe we forget about the £400M" and waved her off isn't very convincing.

[Dextercoindexter]

Not being funny, would you go to Afghanistan as a duel National from the safe haven of UK to lecture?

Some people should take personal responsibilities more seriously in my view, especially if you have a young child in tow.

Historically, some Brits think the Foreign Office can perform miracles and push string up hill when the mud hits the fan.

To be fair to the F.O. a certain lazy underprepared Foreign Secretary did manage to make unguarded comments that got her sentence extended; it’s not like they did nothing.

One view , wrong of course, a Remainer’s seething opinion, more suited to a James O’Brien phone in, my perception anyhow.

[Flying Hippo]

Oh dear - as is so often the case.

Mrs Zaghari-Ratcliffe's arrest, conviction, incarceration and subsequent treatment is entirely due to the actions of the Iranian state. Nevertheless, the F&CO and HM's Government appear to be the main target of criticism, ejaculated at Boris, risibly, dementedly and hilariously, by some in the posts above.

Why is this always the case? Why is there such a loud and relentless group of you who will take every opportunity to take the side of anyone or anything against your own state? Even Iran?

Mrs Z-R's own comments criticizing the F&CO were interesting in themselves. She avoided any overt criticism of the Iranian regime, which, of course, was the party responsible for her predicament and, of itself, a genuinely theocratically totalitarian regime. But her greater, but still relatively mild, criticism of the Foreign Office and there some of you go, like a dog to a whistle - while the rest of us bristle about that although she seemed quite pleasing to the eye, she was rude and ungrateful. Surely she must have been up to something out there or just pushed her luck too far? She's clearly a leftie anyway.

Iranian Intelligence contains some people who are smarter than some of you and it is a certainty that Mrs Z-R was suitably "prepared" for her release, particularly with regard to handling the media. Remember, she has very close connections with people still in Iran whose wellbeing is at the discretion of the Iranian regime.

Imprecisely but for ease of reference, let's refer to those of you who are led and act as an electronic pack as - "Remainers". You constitute a tiresome but awkward alliance of: the emotionally damaged and permanently aggrieved; the middle-class (what the Chinese refer to as) baizuo; proper old-school lefties (prepared to overlook their own genuine concerns about the EU in pursuit of a greater objective never to be achieved at the ballot box), and, their prey, alas, the indoctrinated young. (Mustn't forget the Shinners - those excusers of child murderers and abusers. The taxpayer-funded, imaginary oppression specialists who cling like a tartle to the little hairs in the anus of the Left.)

You are an extremely malleable group but admirably resolute and tireless in your pursuit of destroying your own society, impervious to being plain wrong on almost everything, time and time again. You believe you are on the side of the angels: non-denominational, gender-neutral, any colour but white (obviously), sumac-sprinkled angels (probably the angels of choice for the Anglican church, the world's first atheistic, suicide-cult of a religion). But in reality most of you misunderstand, wilfully avoid or just lack objectivity, morality, consideration of other perspectives (or indeed that there are any such worthy) and intellectual rigour. Yours is just a simple, lazy and ugly philosophy of destruction.

When you see Johnson weeping in a limo as he leaves No. 10 for the last time/has his head paraded on a spike, some of you may discover that the euphoria you expected to feel is fleeting and that the pleasure or satisfaction you anticipated is tempered with a sense of looming dread.

Many of you have not had children, which is the clearest indication throughout history of a dying society, exacerbated in this instance, by a crazed enthusiasm for abortion (the state-sanctioned, even encouraged, poisoning and/or slicing up of unborn children).

For those of you who have managed to summon up sufficient energy to procreate, it is quite likely that your children's lives will be harder, poorer, more brutal, more unfair, much more dangerous and worse than anything you have ever experienced and, possibly, far, far worse than anything you could have ever imagined. And the irony will be that some of you will realise - far, far too late, of course - that every on-line bleat and whine about buses, Eton and cake has just helped nudge your own society a little towards its own destruction - the most liberal, tolerant, fair, prosperous, meritocratic and successful society in history. The society your children live in will be none of those things.

[Dextercoindexter]

Oh dear - as is so often the case.

Mrs Zaghari-Ratcliffe's arrest, conviction, incarceration and subsequent treatment is entirely due to the actions of the Iranian state. Nevertheless, the F&CO and HM's Government appear to be the main target of criticism, ejaculated at Boris, risibly, dementedly and hilariously, by some in the posts above.

Why is this always the case? Why is there such a loud and relentless group of you who will take every opportunity to take the side of anyone or anything against your own state? Even Iran?

Mrs Z-R's own comments criticizing the F&CO were interesting in themselves. She avoided any overt criticism of the Iranian regime, which, of course, was the party responsible for her predicament and, of itself, a genuinely theocratically totalitarian regime. But her greater, but still relatively mild, criticism of the Foreign Office and there some of you go, like a dog to a whistle - while the rest of us bristle about that although she seemed quite pleasing to the eye, she was rude and ungrateful. Surely she must have been up to something out there or just pushed her luck too far? She's clearly a leftie anyway.

Iranian Intelligence contains some people who are smarter than some of you and it is a certainty that Mrs Z-R was suitably "prepared" for her release, particularly with regard to handling the media. Remember, she has very close connections with people still in Iran whose wellbeing is at the discretion of the Iranian regime.

Imprecisely but for ease of reference, let's refer to those of you who are led and act as an electronic pack as - "Remainers". You constitute a tiresome but awkward alliance of: the emotionally damaged and permanently aggrieved; the middle-class (what the Chinese refer to as) baizuo; proper old-school lefties (prepared to overlook their own genuine concerns about the EU in pursuit of a greater objective never to be achieved at the ballot box), and, their prey, alas, the indoctrinated young. (Mustn't forget the Shinners - those excusers of child murderers and abusers. The taxpayer-funded, imaginary oppression specialists who cling like a tartle to the little hairs in the anus of the Left.)

You are an extremely malleable group but admirably resolute and tireless in your pursuit of destroying your own society, impervious to being plain wrong on almost everything, time and time again. You believe you are on the side of the angels: non-denominational, gender-neutral, any colour but white (obviously), sumac-sprinkled angels (probably the angels of choice for the Anglican church, the world's first atheistic, suicide-cult of a religion). But in reality most of you misunderstand, wilfully avoid or just lack objectivity, morality, consideration of other perspectives (or indeed that there are any such worthy) and intellectual rigour. Yours is just a simple, lazy and ugly philosophy of destruction.

When you see Johnson weeping in a limo as he leaves No. 10 for the last time/has his head paraded on a spike, some of you may discover that the euphoria you expected to feel is fleeting and that the pleasure or satisfaction you anticipated is tempered with a sense of looming dread.

Many of you have not had children, which is the clearest indication throughout history of a dying society, exacerbated in this instance, by a crazed enthusiasm for abortion (the state-sanctioned, even encouraged, poisoning and/or slicing up of unborn children).

For those of you who have managed to summon up sufficient energy to procreate, it is quite likely that your children's lives will be harder, poorer, more brutal, more unfair, much more dangerous and worse than anything you have ever experienced and, possibly, far, far worse than anything you could have ever imagined. And the irony will be that some of you will realise - far, far too late, of course - that every on-line bleat and whine about buses, Eton and cake has just helped nudge your own society a little towards its own destruction - the most liberal, tolerant, fair, prosperous, meritocratic and successful society in history. The society your children live in will be none of those things.

Excellent post indeed. You should phone James O’Brien and tear him apart one day.

[Max Fowler]

That is a sensational piece of writing.

Wasting that on the 6 of us on here only adds to its incredibleness.

[Dunners]

I thought it was a bit long.