Kenny Jackett Sacked Thread

[Long slender neck]

Gonna have to assume Jack is conceding the argument

[cockhat]

Ok, I'm here.
None of this is anything you don't know or haven't worked out, but here goes

Ok first I will give your an example of Long being untruthful.
There are a number of examples, but the latest one will do
In the recent interview King did with the Orient Outlook boys, he said very early on in the interview, that he has nothing to do with bringing any players to the club. He didn't bring in players and dump them on Kenny, but Kenny choose all his own players.
Then later on he was asked about individual players brought in during the January window.
When he was asked about Ethan Coleman he said that he'd been after Coleman for 2 years, since he left Reading.
Well 2 years ago Kenny wasn't the manager here, meaning Ling brought Coleman here, but he already said all the players brought in were Kenny's, which is untrue.
There are other examples too, but that one will do as an example.
Next, his workings are flawed. This is easy to illustrate. He reckons he has a great way to choose a manager. I believe he's described it as the long short list, then the short short list, then the final 2 etc etc.
Well this method had produced 5 failures out of 6. That is a flawed system in my book.
As for the last thing, interfering, I'm not taking this any further, because it's speculation. Probably correct, but not certain, so I'm leaving that alone for safety's sake

Firstly, where you are claiming Ling has said something, could you provide a source such as the time in the podcast he said it, so we can verify it?

Perhaps you misunderstand the workings of recruitment. Do you think a manager just watches a player then decides to try and sign them? I think its more like the manager says 'I need a tough tackling centre mid, who can we get?' Ling then talks with his scouts and other footballing contacts, looks at the budget and this all goes to the the transfer committee and targets are decided on, Ling tries to sign the player by contacting clubs/agents, but the manager signs off on, gets the final say on who is signed. Thats not lying, thats you not understanding the process/football.

Most clubs at our level are going to have a high 'failure' percentage of managers, otherwise we'd be in a higher league. Davis was an emergency appointment and I dont think many were complaining. Justin- great success, obviously. Ross- emergency appointment. Fletcher- failure, but also the club baulked at what he wanted to do and perhaps he was later proved right. Ross- arguably another emergency appointment at first, didnt do bad at all for a rookie and we've had far far worse. Jobi- it was a gamble and it didnt work out, personally didnt agree with it or the RE sacking. Jackett- great on paper, very few complained, except Portsmouth fans who have perhaps been proved right. So that is nowhere near 5 out of 6 failures, imho

OK use of colours, but no green! Shame on you!

[DrWindy]

I totally lost all confidence in Jackett when he sold Dan Kemp

And I hope he never gets a decent job in football again, he doesn't deserve one.

I actually thought Kenny gave more game time to Kemp than was warranted. He really was terrible this season and I think his exit was correct. I will eat my hat if he becomes a regular for MK Dons. Let’s see I suppose.

[PoundhillO]

I'd say the two genuine failures are Davis and Fletcher. But with Davis' record it's not like he was a bad choice. Fletcher though was just a flat out failure from before he was recruited to when he was sacked.

And Embleton.

I dunno about that. Embleton first time around was a reasonable enough choice given the circumstances of him taking over. Second time around we just didn't progress as much under his tenure as we'd have preferred. He wasn't particularly inspirational, wasn't going to improve as he went on and worst of all used to touch his face in interviews. He was a poor head coach rather than a disaster. I think people like using emotive words like disaster to try to back their points up when they don't really apply.

You don't know about Embleton, says it all really.
Can't see him ever getting a Managers job, definitely not in League football, maybe someone will take a punt on him in non league football as a Manager but I very much doubt it.

[gshaw]

Jackett will be sitting at home with a big dose of schadenfreude tonight methinks

[Smendrick Feaselberg]

Jackett will be sitting at home with a big dose of schadenfreude tonight methinks

Why? He wouldn't have done any better.

[gshaw]

Jackett will be sitting at home with a big dose of schadenfreude tonight methinks

Why? He wouldn't have done any better.

Which comes back to the recruitment in January again, however you look at it we have four U23 midfielders all of which are lightweight and ineffective. Lose the CM battle lose the game.

[Smendrick Feaselberg]

Jackett will be sitting at home with a big dose of schadenfreude tonight methinks

Why? He wouldn't have done any better.

Which comes back to the recruitment in January again, however you look at it we have four U23 midfielders all of which are lightweight and ineffective. Lose the CM battle lose the game.

He.wouldn't have done any better because his team set-up, selection and decisions have been appalling despite having a proper assistant coaching the team based on his plans. Putting Harrold in charge was as a result of Jackett's incompetence and in hope rather than expectation

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

Jackett will be sitting at home with a big dose of schadenfreude tonight methinks

Why? He wouldn't have done any better.

Which comes back to the recruitment in January again, however you look at it we have four U23 midfielders all of which are lightweight and ineffective. Lose the CM battle lose the game.

Ling doesn’t like proper midfielders that will win the battle in there.

[Cheshunto]

We don’t have one creative midfielder, nobody who can split a defence and make chances.
Khan has been a decent signing, ok he made a mistake today which I think led to the goal, but he’s wasted at RB.
I’d like to see him further forward just behind the strikers.
Coleman, Pratley, Kyprianou, Brown for me are great at passing back or square and are essentially holding midfielders with little creativity.

[Eggski]

Wow, im Fredrickson Alexander, or sweet FA for short. I didn't realise that you dont have to have career as a footballer or be a trained football coach, but you can just talk out of you Harris and can pick a football team and talk tactics that are a lot of poop. I will retire now and go to wetherspoons and talk a load off guff on line . I feel empowered .

[Long slender neck]

we needed a change in style of play and a greater engagement with our players than we were seeing from our management team

[Petrov788]

Play Khan further forward, he's a big upgrade on Kemp imo.

[CharlieO]

we needed a change in style of play and a greater engagement with our players than we were seeing from our management team

Yes I thought that was interesting too. Bit similar to the language they used when getting rid of Fletcher. Asked why in spite of a Top 7 budget, relatively talented squad at this level and manager with good pedigree we had underachieved so badly someone from the club put it down to things going on behind the scenes that couldn't talk about.

[Dohnut]

we needed a change in style of play and a greater engagement with our players than we were seeing from our management team

Pretty obvious. After 20 years, 900+ games and several successes he still hasn’t learnt how to engage with players and understand styles of play. And that comes from someone who has never played or managed football professionally in his life.

Except it didn’t come from Travis. He has been spoon fed that little sound bite.

So who really is running the show then? Hmmmmmm

[Long slender neck]

we needed a change in style of play and a greater engagement with our players than we were seeing from our management team

Pretty obvious. After 20 years, 900+ games and several successes he still hasn’t learnt how to engage with players and understand styles of play. And that comes from someone who has never played or managed football professionally in his life.

Except it didn’t come from Travis. He has been spoon fed that little sound bite.

So who really is running the show then? Hmmmmmm

Its in the programme.

Wanting a change in style, doesn't mean KJ doesn't know what different styles are. But KJ is famously one dimensional, hence 'Jacketball'.

You're sounding like a conspiracy krank.

[Rich Tea Wellin]

As per another thread. When i chatted with a pompey supporting mate, his words were similar to 'sucked the life out of the club. No personality'. I think that came across from his interviews. It depends what group of players you have but he clearly struggled to motivate them and to use any man management techniques to boost confidence when needed most.

[Long slender neck]

I thought he was meant to be a motivator and Gallen was the tactical man.

[Rich Tea Wellin]

Maybe he was. That certainly didnt come across in his interviews, nor in the performances this year. They looked well motivated at the start of the season though, but perhaps when things start going wrong, its the real test for a manager.

[Long slender neck]

Thought he came across as a nice enough guy, but not particularly inspiring.

Just remembered he bocod Cisse too.

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

I thought he came across as if he didn’t really want to be doing the interviews and would rather just speak to the players within the confines of the changing room. And that’s fine with me.

I also thought the players were motivated and putting the effort in even throughout our recent/current awful run,

[tuffers#1]

with dulcet looking at you, no suprise re interview !

[Long slender neck]

I thought he came across as if he didn’t really want to be doing the interviews and would rather just speak to the players within the confines of the changing room. And that’s fine with me.

I also thought the players were motivated and putting the effort in even throughout our recent/current awful run,

All the moaning about Ross touching his face or wearing a hat and now you're not bothered about interviews?

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

I thought he came across as if he didn’t really want to be doing the interviews and would rather just speak to the players within the confines of the changing room. And that’s fine with me.

I also thought the players were motivated and putting the effort in even throughout our recent/current awful run,

All the moaning about Ross touching his face or wearing a hat and now you're not bothered about interviews?

Yeah, I moaned about Ross touching his face and wearing a hat.

[Story of O]

I see Leeds managed to find a new manager fairly quickly