Donuts

[ManchesterO]

I can't help thinking that when Nigel was head honcho at Dunkin Donuts etc., he must have tracked all the numbers in the business - sales and profit per branch, margin, staff turnover the lot - because that's how you make money out of fast food. So I thought I'd look at the numbers since he bought Orient.

As of today, we are at 203 league games and 285 points, so 1.4 points a game. That is very ordinary - about mid table. But for a season and a half we had Justin in charge and we all know that he transformed the team AND got the best out of two forwards who were much too good for the Conference. JE averaged 1.83 points a game.

So without JE - that is solely with the benefit of the excellent players and outstanding managers that our DoF has recruited - Orient have played 133 games for 157 points, which is 1.18 points a game. That - across the equivalent of three seasons - is absolute pants (I believe I'm not allowed to say anything stronger on this board?). If we get nothing out of Bristol Rovers and Carlisle it will be back to Solihull Moors again and that wonderful, amazing season three years ago will all have been for nothing.

So come on Nigel, I don't care if they are all your mates and very hardworking etc - it's time to change the process because whatever DoF and his crew have been doing all this time - IT IS NOT WORKING!

[StillSpike]

Does your analysis take any account of the relative strength of the opposition faced by the managers being compared?

"AND got the best out of two forwards who were much too good for the Conference"

[StillSpike]

NB - certainly not defending the process - or even having a DoF at this level.

[Max B Gold]

I can't help thinking that when Nigel was head honcho at Dunkin Donuts etc., he must have tracked all the numbers in the business - sales and profit per branch, margin, staff turnover the lot - because that's how you make money out of fast food. So I thought I'd look at the numbers since he bought Orient.

As of today, we are at 203 league games and 285 points, so 1.4 points a game. That is very ordinary - about mid table. But for a season and a half we had Justin in charge and we all know that he transformed the team AND got the best out of two forwards who were much too good for the Conference. JE averaged 1.83 points a game.

So without JE - that is solely with the benefit of the excellent players and outstanding managers that our DoF has recruited - Orient have played 133 games for 157 points, which is 1.18 points a game. That - across the equivalent of three seasons - is absolute pants (I believe I'm not allowed to say anything stronger on this board?). If we get nothing out of Bristol Rovers and Carlisle it will be back to Solihull Moors again and that wonderful, amazing season three years ago will all have been for nothing.

So come on Nigel, I don't care if they are all your mates and very hardworking etc - it's time to change the process because whatever DoF and his crew have been doing all this time - IT IS NOT WORKING!

Is there a spreadsheet we can look at?

[Chief crazy horse]

I can't help thinking that when Nigel was head honcho at Dunkin Donuts etc., he must have tracked all the numbers in the business - sales and profit per branch, margin, staff turnover the lot - because that's how you make money out of fast food. So I thought I'd look at the numbers since he bought Orient.

As of today, we are at 203 league games and 285 points, so 1.4 points a game. That is very ordinary - about mid table. But for a season and a half we had Justin in charge and we all know that he transformed the team AND got the best out of two forwards who were much too good for the Conference. JE averaged 1.83 points a game.

So without JE - that is solely with the benefit of the excellent players and outstanding managers that our DoF has recruited - Orient have played 133 games for 157 points, which is 1.18 points a game. That - across the equivalent of three seasons - is absolute pants (I believe I'm not allowed to say anything stronger on this board?). If we get nothing out of Bristol Rovers and Carlisle it will be back to Solihull Moors again and that wonderful, amazing season three years ago will all have been for nothing.

So come on Nigel, I don't care if they are all your mates and very hardworking etc - it's time to change the process because whatever DoF and his crew have been doing all this time - IT IS NOT WORKING!

Agree. But the last paragraph is the most telling .... Got to change!!

[Long slender neck]

Listen to the Ling interview and tell me how this is his fault.

[Rich Tea Wellin]

What’s Chomsky think about it all?

[Rich Tea Wellin]

Also Solihull might get promoted so not entirely correct

[Long slender neck]

Also bit of a leap to say we'll get relegated if we dont get anything from two games.

[Chief crazy horse]

True, but I think you get the gist.

[tuffers#1]

I can't help thinking that when Nigel was head honcho at Dunkin Donuts etc., he must have tracked all the numbers in the business - sales and profit per branch, margin, staff turnover the lot - because that's how you make money out of fast food. So I thought I'd look at the numbers since he bought Orient.

As of today, we are at 203 league games and 285 points, so 1.4 points a game. That is very ordinary - about mid table. But for a season and a half we had Justin in charge and we all know that he transformed the team AND got the best out of two forwards who were much too good for the Conference. JE averaged 1.83 points a game.

So without JE - that is solely with the benefit of the excellent players and outstanding managers that our DoF has recruited - Orient have played 133 games for 157 points, which is 1.18 points a game. That - across the equivalent of three seasons - is absolute pants (I believe I'm not allowed to say anything stronger on this board?). If we get nothing out of Bristol Rovers and Carlisle it will be back to Solihull Moors again and that wonderful, amazing season three years ago will all have been for nothing.

So come on Nigel, I don't care if they are all your mates and very hardworking etc - it's time to change the process because whatever DoF and his crew have been doing all this time - IT IS NOT WORKING!

Yet another HATE filled post against Martin Ling
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[spen666]

A great bit of analysis

lets take out anything positive and then claim the remainder is proof things are not positive

Lets even ignore the fact we are blaming someone for things that are not their responsibility

[Smendrick Feaselberg]

A great bit of analysis

lets take out anything positive and then claim the remainder is proof things are not positive

Lets even ignore the fact we are blaming someone for things that are not their responsibility

We averaged marginally less than a point per game in the first 22 games after relegation to the NL and immediately before Edinburgh came in. Davis was the worst of the lot by that metric yet, like Jackett, had the proven manager label attached that some of our fans obsess about.

[Give it to Jabo]

Who’d run a football club??

[StillSpike]

Thread was mistake.

[Smendrick Feaselberg]

You donut know what you're doing.