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Long slender neck wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:41 pm Putin is a maniac. Will we ever be rid of these commies?
He's a militant capitalist demogogue. Red in tooth and claw.
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Looks like Israel is definitely cosying up to Russia. It's almost worth it to see how the usual suspects are going to square that with their pro-Russia takes.
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How can this be? Goodies and baddies can’t be friends.
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Looks like Israel is definitely cosying up to Russia. It's almost worth it to see how the usual suspects are going to square that with their Anti-Russia takes.
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Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:49 pm How can this be? Goodies and baddies can’t be friends.
Israel always cosies upto the Biggest Goodies
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Max B Gold wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:56 pm Looks like Israel is definitely cosying up to Russia. It's almost worth it to see how the usual suspects are going to square that with their Anti-Russia takes.
It's the straw man school of binary politics that annoys me
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Currywurst and Chips wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 7:11 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:56 pm Looks like Israel is definitely cosying up to Russia. It's almost worth it to see how the usual suspects are going to square that with their Anti-Russia takes.
It's the straw man school of binary politics that annoys me
Hey, stay cool. Sarcasm laced with cynicism is the new binary politics
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Dunners wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:45 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:38 pm
Dunners wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:18 pm

You have to admit that there's a certain type who go out of their way to comment and point at everything except the great big elephant in the room. Russia is the aggressor here. There's no ambiguity. They've been offered a bit of a compromise, but they're not interested. They only respond to one thing, and that's everyone standing up to them together.

All of that is correct but Abbott is actually calling for the avoidance of war by diplomatic means. What is wrong with that ?

Diplomatic means threatening economic and political sanctions for any aggression which the US and Germany have done a by standing together. Putin wasn't expecting such a steadfast response.
"Negotiated peace in Ukraine". Just what do you think that means exactly? Could the recent Stop the War poster, showing a map of Ukraine minus Crimea have anything to do with it? The one thing they are all consistent one is a complete absence of condemnation of Russian actions. Funny that.

At best this lot are simply too thick to understand that they're being useful idiots. At worst, they're willing participants.
How are people still getting triggered by Corbyn tweets over two years later.

Wild.
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Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 8:55 pm
Dunners wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:45 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:38 pm

All of that is correct but Abbott is actually calling for the avoidance of war by diplomatic means. What is wrong with that ?

Diplomatic means threatening economic and political sanctions for any aggression which the US and Germany have done a by standing together. Putin wasn't expecting such a steadfast response.
"Negotiated peace in Ukraine". Just what do you think that means exactly? Could the recent Stop the War poster, showing a map of Ukraine minus Crimea have anything to do with it? The one thing they are all consistent one is a complete absence of condemnation of Russian actions. Funny that.

At best this lot are simply too thick to understand that they're being useful idiots. At worst, they're willing participants.
How are people still getting triggered by Corbyn tweets over two years later.

Wild.
There's always plenty of mileage in a Jezza or Abbott tweet.
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The head of the so-called Donbass People's Republic has just order the immediate evacuation of all women, children and the elderly to Russia.
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Dunners wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:31 pm The head of the so-called Donbass People's Republic has just order the immediate evacuation of all women, children and the elderly to Russia.
Yet more chat. I'm getting bored now when does the action start and will it be live streamed on youtube? Anybody know?
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Max B Gold wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 2:03 pm
Dunners wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:31 pm The head of the so-called Donbass People's Republic has just order the immediate evacuation of all women, children and the elderly to Russia.
Yet more chat. I'm getting bored now when does the action start and will it be live streamed on youtube? Anybody know?
Your wait appears to be over.
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Dunners wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 4:16 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 2:03 pm
Dunners wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:31 pm The head of the so-called Donbass People's Republic has just order the immediate evacuation of all women, children and the elderly to Russia.
Yet more chat. I'm getting bored now when does the action start and will it be live streamed on youtube? Anybody know?
Your wait appears to be over.
Then let battle commence.

Do you think it would he possible to pay to"pilot" a drone or perhaps maybe just sponsor one?
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Pay? The Army will pay you.
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Long slender neck wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 5:14 pm Pay? The Army will pay you.
I wasn't planning to get that involved. Like the politicians and warmongers I like to stir it up but keep a safe distance between my rhetoric and the killing.
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Wonder if any Western tankies will do a Shamima

Doubt it somehow.
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Currywurst and Chips wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 5:28 pm Wonder if any Western tankies will do a Shamima

Doubt it somehow.
There are some brave Brits there already.

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Posting someone hounded out of Labour under Corbyn for antisemitism isn't a good look.
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Currywurst and Chips wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 5:45 pm Posting someone hounded out of Labour under Corbyn for antisemitism isn't a good look.
Was it part of the same hounding out of 40 Jewish members expelled from the party for anti-semitism? At least it appears Winstanely is against neo nazis
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"Nazi-riddled Ukrainian national guard"

:roll:

Just another useful idiot.
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Max B Gold wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 5:55 pm
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 5:45 pm Posting someone hounded out of Labour under Corbyn for antisemitism isn't a good look.
Was it part of the same hounding out of 40 Jewish members expelled from the party for anti-semitism? At least it appears Winstanely is against neo nazis
No, he was suspended then left in 2019 because of racism and was so anti Jewish, Owen Jones, Novara Media and Momentum all turned on him

But hey, it's up to you which accounts you want to amplify.
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Currywurst and Chips wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 6:05 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 5:55 pm
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 5:45 pm Posting someone hounded out of Labour under Corbyn for antisemitism isn't a good look.
Was it part of the same hounding out of 40 Jewish members expelled from the party for anti-semitism? At least it appears Winstanely is against neo nazis
No, he was suspended then left in 2019 because of racism and was so anti Jewish, Owen Jones, Novara Media and Momentum all turned on him

But hey, it's up to you which accounts you want to amplify.
Fair dos. I shall investigate further and see what this character has been up to.
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Dunners wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 6:01 pm "Nazi-riddled Ukrainian national guard"

:roll:

Just another useful idiot.
It is a fact that elements of fascist militias have been integrated into the army. True or not?
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