Did she consent then? And it wasnt just in London that he is alleged to fiddle her, is it?SvenO wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:47 pm https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58153711
Wasn't the age of concent 16 in the uk looking from a legal stand point
https://www.ageofconsent.net/world/united-kingdom
Yes it is
If that is the case its bad but is it illegal?
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I'd hold off on starting up that legal practicetuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 11:54 pm The agreement cleary states she would not bring cases against potential abusers. why else would any judge need to think about & then decide ? if its what as you say , then its straight to a criminal trial followed by a new civil case surely . Abuser/defendent just for clarity.
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All he has done is say that the agreement allows 2 interpretations of the agreement .Adz wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 10:51 pmI'd hold off on starting up that legal practicetuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 11:54 pm The agreement cleary states she would not bring cases against potential abusers. why else would any judge need to think about & then decide ? if its what as you say , then its straight to a criminal trial followed by a new civil case surely . Abuser/defendent just for clarity.
Andrews Lawyers now get to ask for dates times etc .
Its not in court yet .
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I understand the agreement applies (if it does at all) for alleged cases in Florida only.Adz wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 10:51 pmI'd hold off on starting up that legal practicetuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 11:54 pm The agreement cleary states she would not bring cases against potential abusers. why else would any judge need to think about & then decide ? if its what as you say , then its straight to a criminal trial followed by a new civil case surely . Abuser/defendent just for clarity.
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Is Andrew (the man who told us that he can't perspire) beginning to sweat now?
Good to see that there is someone in Legal Practice who is not afraid to take on "Royalty".
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Prince Andrew loses military titles and patronages and will no longer be known as HRH
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59987935
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About bloody time. Well and truly Boco’d at last.Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:25 pm Prince Andrew loses military titles and patronages and will no longer be known as HRH
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If he fiddled her in the uk and she concented it would be legal i think but if he fiddled her somewhere the age of concent is 18 then she couldnt consent.Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 3:04 pmDid she consent then? And it wasnt just in London that he is alleged to fiddle her, is it?SvenO wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:47 pm https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58153711
Wasn't the age of concent 16 in the uk looking from a legal stand point
https://www.ageofconsent.net/world/united-kingdom
Yes it is
If that is the case its bad but is it illegal?
But if she is saying she didnt consent her being 1 year older wouldnt make a difference it would still be illegal.
This is my understanding from what i have read.
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She alledges one thing and him another they both said things it would be a little more important if a guilty verdict didnt only result in a millionaire having to pay a fine.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 2:55 pmshe alledges meetings in N.Y & American virgin islands .SvenO wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:47 pm https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58153711
Wasn't the age of concent 16 in the uk looking from a legal stand point
https://www.ageofconsent.net/world/united-kingdom
Yes it is
If that is the case its bad but is it illegal?
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I thought sexual abuse should be a criminal offence but we could move to a financial based punishment system.
Ian Watkins must be very jellous.
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Being a civil case its a he said she said case , he will be able to provide a diary as a royal at the time one would think.SvenO wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:32 pmShe alledges one thing and him another they both said things it would be a little more important if a guilty verdict didnt only result in a millionaire having to pay a fine.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 2:55 pmshe alledges meetings in N.Y & American virgin islands .SvenO wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:47 pm https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58153711
Wasn't the age of concent 16 in the uk looking from a legal stand point
https://www.ageofconsent.net/world/united-kingdom
Yes it is
If that is the case its bad but is it illegal?
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If its that he will have to pay with public opinion as it is.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:03 amBeing a civil case its a he said she said case , he will be able to provide a diary as a royal at the time one would think.
But again fine and rich person.
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Settled out of court. I reckon he gave her the crown jewels, and I don't mean his mum's jewellery.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60393843
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Alls Well That Ends WellSmendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:40 pm Settled out of court. I reckon he gave her the crown jewels, and I don't mean his mum's jewellery.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60393843
He's free to replace Ling as Orient Director of Football now - got a lot of contacts with the young apparently
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Think what is more revealing is THE photo seems to have been lost by the claimant. That torpedoes her case and has probably forced her into a settlement, because Andrew's lawyers would have argued he couldn't have a fair trial if not able to examine the veracity of the photo. He has always said he does not recall meeting her.
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Hmmm. I hope nobody will be thinking of calling Randy Andy a nonce after this ‘closure’ because it was never legally established in court and now it may be actionable. So whatever you do don't call Prince Andrew a nonce (thanks to some twitterati for providing the template for that wording)
Lucky timing that he sold that well-earned ski chalet he’d worked so,so hard for recently to help cover the settlement.
Lucky timing that he sold that well-earned ski chalet he’d worked so,so hard for recently to help cover the settlement.
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Why would Andy agree to a settlement if her case was torpedoed?spen666 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:24 pmThink what is more revealing is THE photo seems to have been lost by the claimant. That torpedoes her case and has probably forced her into a settlement, because Andrew's lawyers would have argued he couldn't have a fair trial if not able to examine the veracity of the photo. He has always said he does not recall meeting her.
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Long slender neck wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 6:57 pmWhy would Andy agree to a settlement if her case was torpedoed?spen666 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:24 pmThink what is more revealing is THE photo seems to have been lost by the claimant. That torpedoes her case and has probably forced her into a settlement, because Andrew's lawyers would have argued he couldn't have a fair trial if not able to examine the veracity of the photo. He has always said he does not recall meeting her.
Lots of reasons - mainly financial.
It was a civil case, so only remedy was compensation for the claimant.
It's cheaper to pay a lower sum to settle mow than risk having to pay a much larger sum after trial.
Ask the same question of the claimant