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Re: Starting XI
What’s the obsession with 352? Orient played sh*t with it and had too many players out of position.
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Re: Starting XI
Is it an obsession?BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:44 pm What’s the obsession with 352? Orient played sh*t with it and had too many players out of position.
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Re: Starting XI
Either 90% of the people on this forum don’t know anything about football or they’re obsessed with 352dOh Nut wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:33 pmIs it an obsession?BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:44 pm What’s the obsession with 352? Orient played sh*t with it and had too many players out of position.
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We have 3 really good centre halves and we don’t have 2 really good central midfielders.BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:44 pm What’s the obsession with 352? Orient played sh*t with it and had too many players out of position.
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If we have 2 great keepers perhaps we should play 2-5-2-2CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:46 pmWe have 3 really good centre halves and we don’t have 2 really good central midfielders.BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:44 pm What’s the obsession with 352? Orient played sh*t with it and had too many players out of position.
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Re: Starting XI
It's not the team/formation i'd pick, but I think it's the one RE will go with. Will revise once pre-season starts and we see what formation he plays.Lucky7 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:28 pmJeez if that’s the starting 11 I’ll give up my season ticket nowAdz wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:11 pm Angol joins guess he partners Wilkinson with jmd dropping to the bench
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Brill Judd Happe Coulson Ekpiteta Widdowson McAnuff Clay Wright Angol Wilkinson Bench Sergeant Ling Turley Brophy Maguire-Drew Gorman Harold Squad Dayton Sotiriou Alabi Kypriano Shabani Ogie Sweeney Janata
That’s the worst selection since Basil Brush left the building
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Re: Starting XI
Revising the team as JMD looks nailed on to start:
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Brill
Happe Coulson Ekpiteta
Judd Widdowson
Clay Wright
Maguire-Drew
Angol Wilkinson
Bench
Sergeant
Ling
Turley
Brophy
McAnuff
Gorman
Harold
Squad
Dayton
Sotiriou
Alabi
Kypriano
Shabani
Ogie
Sweeney
Janata
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Re: Starting XI
As per the other thread, at this stage I think Sarge will start in goal. Brill has a mystery injury and hasn't played yet.
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Ain't too worried about Brill, he originally came into the side from zero and was OK... if he had a bad injury I am sure we'd be loaning in cover for him.
I don't think the formation is concrete yet.
It seems that in all games so far we have played both 5-3-2 and 4-3-3.
I don't think the formation is concrete yet.
It seems that in all games so far we have played both 5-3-2 and 4-3-3.
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Re: Starting XI
The 3-5-2 was done out of necessity by JE as our CM was being overrun so easily and we were running out of juice with all the injuries kicking in. Wouldn't want to see it as a preferred tactic as it really negated our attacking threat but with the (lack of) wide and CM cover it may well end up being all we can play.
Sargeant
Ling
Happe
Ekpiteta
Coulson
Widdowson
Wright
Clay
JMD
Angol
Wilkinson
Subs:
Janata
Turley
Judd
Gorman
Brophy
Harrold
Alabi
Taking Brill (mystery injury), Dayton (long-term injury recovery) and McAnuff (mystery injury / coaching) out of the picture really does leave a dearth of pace, width or attacking options.
Sargeant
Ling
Happe
Ekpiteta
Coulson
Widdowson
Wright
Clay
JMD
Angol
Wilkinson
Subs:
Janata
Turley
Judd
Gorman
Brophy
Harrold
Alabi
Taking Brill (mystery injury), Dayton (long-term injury recovery) and McAnuff (mystery injury / coaching) out of the picture really does leave a dearth of pace, width or attacking options.
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Re: Starting XI
Looking at our squad, fit players, other than Judd for Ling, this will give use a better attacking option, that line up seems to work. tbh it wouldn't surprise me to see Happe on the bench with Brophy or Jobi in midfield and JMD playing behind the front two.gshaw wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:43 pm The 3-5-2 was done out of necessity by JE as our CM was being overrun so easily and we were running out of juice with all the injuries kicking in. Wouldn't want to see it as a preferred tactic as it really negated our attacking threat but with the (lack of) wide and CM cover it may well end up being all we can play.
Sargeant
Ling
Happe
Ekpiteta
Coulson
Widdowson
Wright
Clay
JMD
Angol
Wilkinson
Subs:
Janata
Turley
Judd
Gorman
Brophy
Harrold
Alabi
Taking Brill (mystery injury), Dayton (long-term injury recovery) and McAnuff (mystery injury / coaching) out of the picture really does leave a dearth of pace, width or attacking options.
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Re: Starting XI
I prefer the 4-4-2 especially at home where we need to attack and use the quality of the pitch. However we don't have the sub options to do it, especially if McAnuff continues not to feature on the playing side.dOh Nut wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:57 pmLooking at our squad, fit players, other than Judd for Ling, this will give use a better attacking option, that line up seems to work. tbh it wouldn't surprise me to see Happe on the bench with Brophy or Jobi in midfield and JMD playing behind the front two.gshaw wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:43 pm The 3-5-2 was done out of necessity by JE as our CM was being overrun so easily and we were running out of juice with all the injuries kicking in. Wouldn't want to see it as a preferred tactic as it really negated our attacking threat but with the (lack of) wide and CM cover it may well end up being all we can play.
Sargeant
Ling
Happe
Ekpiteta
Coulson
Widdowson
Wright
Clay
JMD
Angol
Wilkinson
Subs:
Janata
Turley
Judd
Gorman
Brophy
Harrold
Alabi
Taking Brill (mystery injury), Dayton (long-term injury recovery) and McAnuff (mystery injury / coaching) out of the picture really does leave a dearth of pace, width or attacking options.
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Re: Starting XI
Nah! Let's go 1-0-10.......all out attack and keep them pinned in their half! Brill can deal with the defending if needs be!
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Re: Starting XI
That's a pretty strong looking 18 to me. I'm pleased with those substitute options. Maybe one more player who can change a game would be welcome, but apart from that we're there in my opinion.gshaw wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:43 pm The 3-5-2 was done out of necessity by JE as our CM was being overrun so easily and we were running out of juice with all the injuries kicking in. Wouldn't want to see it as a preferred tactic as it really negated our attacking threat but with the (lack of) wide and CM cover it may well end up being all we can play.
Sargeant
Ling
Happe
Ekpiteta
Coulson
Widdowson
Wright
Clay
JMD
Angol
Wilkinson
Subs:
Janata
Turley
Judd
Gorman
Brophy
Harrold
Alabi
Taking Brill (mystery injury), Dayton (long-term injury recovery) and McAnuff (mystery injury / coaching) out of the picture really does leave a dearth of pace, width or attacking options.
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Only until the first suspension / injury from midfield up. Then you've got Alabi or Harrold starting and nothing on the bench. Similar in CM, where you're very likely to get absences more through bookings than anything else.Red_Army wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:21 pmThat's a pretty strong looking 18 to me. I'm pleased with those substitute options. Maybe one more player who can change a game would be welcome, but apart from that we're there in my opinion.gshaw wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:43 pm The 3-5-2 was done out of necessity by JE as our CM was being overrun so easily and we were running out of juice with all the injuries kicking in. Wouldn't want to see it as a preferred tactic as it really negated our attacking threat but with the (lack of) wide and CM cover it may well end up being all we can play.
Sargeant
Ling
Happe
Ekpiteta
Coulson
Widdowson
Wright
Clay
JMD
Angol
Wilkinson
Subs:
Janata
Turley
Judd
Gorman
Brophy
Harrold
Alabi
Taking Brill (mystery injury), Dayton (long-term injury recovery) and McAnuff (mystery injury / coaching) out of the picture really does leave a dearth of pace, width or attacking options.
Defence as per last year is strong but with the caveat of Sargeant in goal instead of Brill as it stands.
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I'd be pretty confident if we had to start Harrold, Gorman or McAnuff for whatever reason.gshaw wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:50 pmOnly until the first suspension / injury from midfield up. Then you've got Alabi or Harrold starting and nothing on the bench. Similar in CM, where you're very likely to get absences more through bookings than anything else.Red_Army wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:21 pmThat's a pretty strong looking 18 to me. I'm pleased with those substitute options. Maybe one more player who can change a game would be welcome, but apart from that we're there in my opinion.gshaw wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:43 pm The 3-5-2 was done out of necessity by JE as our CM was being overrun so easily and we were running out of juice with all the injuries kicking in. Wouldn't want to see it as a preferred tactic as it really negated our attacking threat but with the (lack of) wide and CM cover it may well end up being all we can play.
Sargeant
Ling
Happe
Ekpiteta
Coulson
Widdowson
Wright
Clay
JMD
Angol
Wilkinson
Subs:
Janata
Turley
Judd
Gorman
Brophy
Harrold
Alabi
Taking Brill (mystery injury), Dayton (long-term injury recovery) and McAnuff (mystery injury / coaching) out of the picture really does leave a dearth of pace, width or attacking options.
Defence as per last year is strong but with the caveat of Sargeant in goal instead of Brill as it stands.
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Did you notice we ended up as Champions?BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:44 pm Orient played sh*t with it and had too many players out of position.
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Are you suggesting that because we were champions, every game we played majestic, quality football and never badly. Need to wash my glasses.DuvB wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:01 pmDid you notice we ended up as Champions?BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:44 pm Orient played sh*t with it and had too many players out of position.
What we were very good at, a true virtue of champions, was grinding out results even when we sometimes played poo poo. Worked for me, 3 points is the first priority and we did it bloody well. Better than the rest. But don't suggest we never played poo poo.
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i don’t think anybody has claimed that we never played badly under the 352 system. The general gist seems to be that it couldn’t have been that bad a formation seeing as it played a big part in us winning the league.dOh Nut wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:20 pmAre you suggesting that because we were champions, every game we played majestic, quality football and never badly. Need to wash my glasses.DuvB wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:01 pmDid you notice we ended up as Champions?BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:44 pm Orient played sh*t with it and had too many players out of position.
What we were very good at, a true virtue of champions, was grinding out results even when we sometimes played poo poo. Worked for me, 3 points is the first priority and we did it bloody well. Better than the rest. But don't suggest we never played poo poo.
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Sure. its the concept that as we were champions everything was perfect all the time I questioned . Compared to the teams I saw, we were deserved Champions though. Certainly better than the rest even when we played badly.Buckingham wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:26 pmi don’t think anybody has claimed that we never played badly under the 352 system. The general gist seems to be that it couldn’t have been that bad a formation seeing as it played a big part in us winning the league.dOh Nut wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:20 pmAre you suggesting that because we were champions, every game we played majestic, quality football and never badly. Need to wash my glasses.
What we were very good at, a true virtue of champions, was grinding out results even when we sometimes played poo poo. Worked for me, 3 points is the first priority and we did it bloody well. Better than the rest. But don't suggest we never played poo poo.
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Re: Starting XI
Dennis joins and Ling seems to be favoured to Judd in pre-season
I reckon that'll be RE's preferred XI. No McAnuff, so I think Judd will be on the bench instead, maybe Ogie though. Think wilkinson will start ahead of Dennis this week and if Angol is ill Harold will start so Dennis and Alabi on the bench.
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Brill
Happe Coulson Ekpiteta
Ling Widdowson
Clay Wright
Maguire-Drew
Angol Dennis
Bench
Sergeant
Turley
Brophy
McAnuff
Gorman
Wilkinson
Harold
Squad
Judd
Dayton
Sotiriou
Alabi
Kypriano
Shabani
Ogie
Sweeney
Janata
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Look how strong that bench is- and people say we have no depth.Adz wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:06 am Dennis joins and Ling seems to be favoured to Judd in pre-season
I reckon that'll be RE's preferred XI. No McAnuff, so I think Judd will be on the bench instead, maybe Ogie though. Think wilkinson will start ahead of Dennis this week and if Angol is ill Harold will start so Dennis and Alabi on the bench.Code: Select all
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Re: Starting XI
Really can’t see him starting Wilkinson and Harrorld if Angol is ill. Also a bit rough to put Wilkinson on the bench in favour of a player who signed yesterday, so reckon it will be Angol and Wilkinson, with Dennis starting if Angol is still ill.