Tory Watch

[Story of O]

It's possible to be both

[tuffers#1]

Cant wait for Doh to try &defend this .

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... al-reports

This will be the one that clinches it.

I’m no royalist but even I found it sad watching the old girl sitting alone as her husband was buried.

[Mistadobalina]

The situation is so farcical that any event Johnson wasn't actually present for muddies the waters for him and allows him to say there's a wider cultural problem rather than him being individually culpable for this stuff.

You'd think that surely couldn't work but it's the excuse he'll use to try to cling onto power.

[faldO]

At least people are clear now on the fine details of the covid rules and when/where they applied.

Last year when the parties were taking place everyone was complaining about how confusing and stupid the rules were.

[Long slender neck]

According to Full Fact the garden at Downing Street isnt a public place so the rules didn't apply. I guess the same would apply to our own gardens.

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

The situation is so farcical that any event Johnson wasn't actually present for muddies the waters for him

He wasn’t there because he was on holiday at his second home.

[Dunners]

This is a very striking image that will cut through.

[BoniO]

At least people are clear now on the fine details of the covid rules and when/where they applied.

Last year when the parties were taking place everyone was complaining about how confusing and stupid the rules were.

Confusing for the general public - yes, at times. Confusing for the government? Now that would be quite an achievement wouldn't it, for a government to issue restrictions that they didn't understand themselves. Or, just maybe, they really don't give a sh-it.

[Dohnut]

According to Full Fact the garden at Downing Street isnt a public place so the rules didn't apply. I guess the same would apply to our own gardens.

The real risk here is that the rules may be used to show no laws were broken, as in the case with Cummings. Technically OK. But still wrong. And still an insult to the general public.

[StillSpike]

According to Full Fact the garden at Downing Street isnt a public place so the rules didn't apply. I guess the same would apply to our own gardens.

The real risk here is that the rules may be used to show no laws were broken, as in the case with Cummings. Technically OK. But still wrong. And still an insult to the general public.

Agreed - and, perhaps more importantly, if they can claim that no rules were broken, even if on a technicality, then they can claim that they've not misled Parliament over the last 4 or 5 weeks. Personally, I'm less bothered by the actual wrongdoing of a year or two ago (bad tho that is), and more bothered by the fact that BJ and the rest of his horrible shower have repeatedly lied to the House and the rest of us in the attempted cover up.

[greyhound]

FFS this has to be the straw that breaks the camels back.

[BoniO]

FFS this has to be the straw that breaks the camels back.

Nah, there's already been about 20 other issues that should have been. He'll cling on - like a slug on a bucket full of sh-ite

[tuffers#1]

This is a very striking image that will cut through.

Story party has no shame .

[Mistadobalina]

Another party happened on December 17th, same day as Simon Chase held one (Chase being the guy that was supposed to investigate the originally reported party on December 18th).

Bearing in mind tier 4 and total London lockdown was announced on the 19th, is the reason we bungled the response around then cause everyone was on their arse hungover?

A lot of these stories now coming from the telegraph is causing me to put my tin foil hat on and think that Johnson's team is leaking these things so the enquiry can assign this all to a cultural problem impossible to pin on a single person. Can already see people getting numbed to the new revelations because there are so many of them.

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

A lot of these stories now coming from the telegraph is causing me to put my tin foil hat on and think that Johnson's team is leaking these things so the enquiry can assign this all to a cultural problem impossible to pin on a single person. Can already see people getting numbed to the new revelations because there are so many of them.

You might be onto something.

A cultural problem within politics, not just the Government, of course.

[Dohnut]

I'm guessing it was BYOB so as to try to keep it "unofficial" - not dipping in to the wine cellars (which presumably would leave a paper trail) - If food was the only thing provided, then maybe they thought they'd be able to pass the consumption off as business-related. Rather defeats the object by sending out the invites on email, mind

Might be nonsense, of course.

Bring you own avoids cross contamination from bottles. Not unusual for wine at business working events. Pretty common in fact. Not unusual for organisations to have offsite meetings, in their case they have a secure garden. Our company used a local hotel.

Possible to have a working event that includes wine and nibbles, in a social setting. Not unusual. The issues is not that, it’s if it broke Covid regulations.

It IS unusual to have alcohol in a work setting. In my day and probably yours too, as the Head of a Big Corporate it was work first and then the social. In those days we worked hard and played hard.

Can’t talk about your experience As a former Director in the U.K. arm of a Global Corporate Organisation, We held management meetings off-site for many reasons, alcohol in moderation and snacks not unusual. I frequently engaged in a serious business discussion over a glass of red. Also went to many seminars, exhibitions, presentations, customer visits and so on with the odd glass of wine available, sometimes offered at point of entry. No big deal. Not to get pissed but available as a social gesture to those who wanted it. None of these gatherings remotely came into the party class. That’s for sure.

Nor in fact is having a drink with a colleague moving on to pastures new. Alcohol being available does not mean it’s a party. That term is being used for pure political reasons.

The real issue here is separating what really happened with the political rhetoric. There are some serious issues to look into like have the regulations been broken, I’m not aware of alcohol being consumed being wrong under Covid regulations. I hope the review focuses on regulations. We all know that morally it was wrong. Shocking timing too. Apologies well justified. What I want to know is if laws have been broken and has Boris mislead the house.

[BoniO]

Dohnut caricatures Dohnut! Couldn't be more CJ (Reggie Perrin) if he tried.

[Long slender neck]

Hes very naive

[tuffers#1]

He's a tool !

[Max B Gold]

Bring you own avoids cross contamination from bottles. Not unusual for wine at business working events. Pretty common in fact. Not unusual for organisations to have offsite meetings, in their case they have a secure garden. Our company used a local hotel.

Possible to have a working event that includes wine and nibbles, in a social setting. Not unusual. The issues is not that, it’s if it broke Covid regulations.

It IS unusual to have alcohol in a work setting. In my day and probably yours too, as the Head of a Big Corporate it was work first and then the social. In those days we worked hard and played hard.

Can’t talk about your experience As a former Director in the U.K. arm of a Global Corporate Organisation, We held management meetings off-site for many reasons, alcohol in moderation and snacks not unusual. I frequently engaged in a serious business discussion over a glass of red. Also went to many seminars, exhibitions, presentations, customer visits and so on with the odd glass of wine available, sometimes offered at point of entry. No big deal. Not to get pissed but available as a social gesture to those who wanted it. None of these gatherings remotely came into the party class. That’s for sure.

Nor in fact is having a drink with a colleague moving on to pastures new. Alcohol being available does not mean it’s a party. That term is being used for pure political reasons.

The real issue here is separating what really happened with the political rhetoric. There are some serious issues to look into like have the regulations been broken, I’m not aware of alcohol being consumed being wrong under Covid regulations. I hope the review focuses on regulations. We all know that morally it was wrong. Shocking timing too. Apologies well justified. What I want to know is if laws have been broken and has Boris mislead the house.

Blah, blah fuking blah. You even question the well documented fact that Boris is a big fat albino khunt of a LIAR.

[BoniO]

He's a tool !

Nah, tools are useful.

[Dunners]

Can’t talk about your experience As a former Director in the U.K. arm of a Global Corporate Organisation, We held management meetings off-site for many reasons, alcohol in moderation and snacks not unusual. I frequently engaged in a serious business discussion over a glass of red. Also went to many seminars, exhibitions, presentations, customer visits and so on with the odd glass of wine available, sometimes offered at point of entry. No big deal. Not to get pissed but available as a social gesture to those who wanted it. None of these gatherings remotely came into the party class. That’s for sure.

Nor in fact is having a drink with a colleague moving on to pastures new. Alcohol being available does not mean it’s a party. That term is being used for pure political reasons.

The real issue here is separating what really happened with the political rhetoric. There are some serious issues to look into like have the regulations been broken, I’m not aware of alcohol being consumed being wrong under Covid regulations. I hope the review focuses on regulations. We all know that morally it was wrong. Shocking timing too. Apologies well justified. What I want to know is if laws have been broken and has Boris mislead the house.

Blah, blah fuking blah. You even question the well documented fact that Boris is a big fat albino khunt of a LIAR.

Just you wait 'till I get him lecturing you about China too. Then you'll be f*cking sorry.

[Currywurst and Chips]

[Currywurst and Chips]

He'll fight it but will be gone to the Spectator by the summer