Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:34 am
There's never been a decent band from Liverpool. Echo and the Bunnymen were alright but that's about it.
The Beatles were just alright, Really ?
Well many may differ on that opinion, perhaps in your case, its purely an age group thing.
Whilst undeniably the Stones have produced half a dozen stormers; the Beatles versatility, and sheer level of creativity, surely edges them ahead?
If you listen to the White Album: okay, there's a couple of stinkers on there, but there's a myriad of styles, and willingness to push boundaries which the Stones just don't have.
The Stones seem very basic and one-dimensional in comparison, albeit granted, they've made some decent tracks; which they're still flogging to death every night on their tours.
Beatles for me , always been a fan , i still go to 60s concerts and see bands like the Fortunes and Fourmost , also the Merseybeats , granted many of the orignal members are long gone its still great to watch , even when i go to Majorca for my annual holiday i look out for the Beatles tribute bands , love em
RientO wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:40 am
So many great bands from London (or thereabouts). Stones, Kinks, Who, Pistols, Clash, Jam, Squeeze, Damned, T.Rex, etc. And the greatest of all, David Bowie (though admittedly not a band!)
RientO wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:40 am
So many great bands from London (or thereabouts). Stones, Kinks, Who, Pistols, Clash, Jam, Squeeze, Damned, T.Rex, etc. And the greatest of all, David Bowie (though admittedly not a band!)
Can’t believe you missed out Hayze Fantasyee
Only because Kate Garner comes from Lancashire. But err yeah otherwise how did I omit them?
Scuba Diver wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:28 pm
The Beatles versatility, and sheer level of creativity, surely edges them ahead?
Beatles pre-Rubber Soul were very one-dimensional. Stones from Beggars Banquet to Exile on Main Street made some exceptional music Sympathy for The Devil and Gimme Shelter were far from one-dimensional and definitely pushed the envelope.
Both were (and are in the case of The Stones) exceptional bands. I like both a lot. Not much between them but agree for the impact and variety, The Beatles edge it. Though their fcuking nursery rhyme songs (Yellow Submarine, Hello Goodbye and All You Need is Love) suggest they felt they could put out any old sh!te and sell it.
February 18th 2006 the Rolling Stones played live to the biggest crowd ever , over 1.5 million attended at the Copacabana Beach in Rio, never been beaten doubt it will ever be that's shows that they are and always will be the Greatest Rock and Roll Band in the World .
BIGRON wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:30 pm
i still go to 60s concerts...
I have seen The Stones (London Stadium), The Who (Hyde Park, The O2) and Ray Davies (Union Chapel) in recent years mainly on the basis that if I don't see them soon, I would never see them again. Would love to see The Who at Wembley , but I am not going to pay £225 to get a half decent seat. Never paid more than £100 for a concert, most was £90 for The Who at The O2, where I had an aisle seat in the front blocks.
Thor wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:56 am
I was taking the children to school this morning and on the way we play a game of who is the group and what is the name of the song.
At that moment Jumping Jack Flash came on and after a hint my daughter correctly named the group. So she was asking questions and I naturally said that the Beatles were there main competitors and some say the stones were the best and some say the Beatles were the best.
Personally I’m a stones man, heavily influenced I guess from my fathers taste in music, so where do you stand? Who do you think is the best? Maybe a reason why.
Didn’t she have homework to do or times tables to practise?
Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:34 am
There's never been a decent band from Liverpool. Echo and the Bunnymen were alright but that's about it.
As a Liverpudlian I can't argue with that. They had a fair number of pretty pop songs but the Stones were (past tense obviously) a kick ass rock n roll band. Saw them at Knebworth in 1976 where there was a ridiculous delay in them coming on. At the time everybody thought 10cc had blown the sound system. Turned out Keef had gone missing in Knebworth Hall and nobody could find him. I was only a kid at the time but I got to see Freebird played by Lynyrd Skynyrd a year before the group were wiped out in a plane crash. Just discovered I payed £4.25 to see those three, Todd Rundgren and Hot Tuna. One version of a brilliant day is here https://www.loudersound.com/features/kn ... -late-show
Scuba Diver wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:28 pm
The Beatles versatility, and sheer level of creativity, surely edges them ahead?
Beatles pre-Rubber Soul were very one-dimensional. Stones from Beggars Banquet to Exile on Main Street made some exceptional music Sympathy for The Devil and Gimme Shelter were far from one-dimensional and definitely pushed the envelope.
Both were (and are in the case of The Stones) exceptional bands. I like both a lot. Not much between them but agree for the impact and variety, The Beatles edge it. Though their fcuking nursery rhyme songs (Yellow Submarine, Hello Goodbye and All You Need is Love) suggest they felt they could put out any old sh!te and sell it.
Agree with this , really.
Beatles were a bit one-paced in the earlier part of their career before diversifying to sometimes epic creative heights, and oh yes, they sure did drop a few utter stinkers.
Re Stones: Beggars Banquet is a great album particularly, and the 2 tracks you mention also very good indeed, but I think the fact that whenever people laud the Stones the same 6 tracks are always mentioned, is why the Beatles edge them out for me.
I like the Beatles but have never bought any of their records since I bought I Feel Fine as a kid. I am more into the Rolling Stones now than ever although I only have the five albums either side of 1970. Starting with Beggars banquet and ending with Goats Head Soup.
Beradogs wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:39 am
A day in the life is a musical masterpiece. I don’t think the stones got close.
I see that. I like a bit more guitar work in my pop/rock music.
I swear McCartney was the only proper musician in the band. I believe he pretty much played everything on some of the songs. Lennon was a rough and ready rhythm guitarist, Harrison would enlist Eric Clapton (or more often McCartney) to play the tricky solos and Ringo's drumming was rudimentary. Lucky they had George Martin to get the session musicians in.
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I probably listen to more old Stones stuff these days so I’ve gone for them (basically the Mick Taylor period), but there’s so many corkers in The Beatles catalogue it’s a close run thing.
slacker wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:16 pm
Ringo is a great drummer. Underrated by too many.
A distinctive drummer who gave the Beatles a sound but not as proficient as Charlie Watts nor as talented as Keith Moon. And as Lennon was quoted, he wasn't even the best drummer in The Beatles.
Paul McCartney is an incredibly talented musician. Possibly the greatest bass player and no slouch on guitar, drums or keyboards. Shame all he could write was silly love songs...
Continued their world tour last night in the USA. Jagger is 75 why are they still performing? I’d say it must be the buzz, although it’s been suggested in the past that it’s greed.
BIGRON wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:30 pm
i still go to 60s concerts...
I have seen The Stones (London Stadium), The Who (Hyde Park, The O2) and Ray Davies (Union Chapel) in recent years mainly on the basis that if I don't see them soon, I would never see them again. Would love to see The Who at Wembley , but I am not going to pay £225 to get a half decent seat. Never paid more than £100 for a concert, most was £90 for The Who at The O2, where I had an aisle seat in the front blocks.
Got a ticket for The Who £37 front row on upper tier around halfway line. Not close enough to see the reds of their eyes, but will do nicely. Seems to be lots of tickets available, but no one discounting them except ticketmaster who are now charging £40 for tickets that were previously £70 . Odd with just a week to go there aren’t cheaper resales.
