Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 9:13 pm
Wrong. I wouldn’t be voting to enforce vaccinations on NHS staff.
Me neither but if they don't want to get vaxxed they can't work in a hospital.
What if they get a dose of The Covids and pass because of it and their relatives try and sue the NHS for failing in their duty of care. Legal minefield best avoided the only winners are the lawyers.
What if, after you pussies have let them work in a non-hospital environment, they get The Covids and infect other colleagues, which indirectly leads to the death of a patient because of other services getting withdrawn?
Pin them down and jab that needle in their arse cheeks, I say!
George wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:06 pm
We already are clown. The latest travel restrictions were to slow / stop the spread of a variant that was already here. It didn’t do either. You won’t know who you are inviting around for dinner because the symptoms are so slight. Pointless restrictions
Imagine there's a new mutant strain of a disease thats already killed millions of people on the loose in a foreign country. You're saying DON'T stop people from that country travelling to our country?
I said a rethink would be needed if this was the case.
George wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:06 pm
We already are clown. The latest travel restrictions were to slow / stop the spread of a variant that was already here. It didn’t do either. You won’t know who you are inviting around for dinner because the symptoms are so slight. Pointless restrictions
You keep saying that restrictions haven't slowed the spread, without any evidence and contrary to science and logic.
So we have slowed a virus that’s been around 3 weeks and is now the dominant variant. Wearing a mask in selected shops was not going to slow this variant. I have never seen proof that we have slowed any variants. It’s impossible to quantify surely
Every infection prevented is potentially a life saved, so of course masks in selected places slowed it. If we had no restrictions at all, there would be more infections by now, we bought time in order to jab people and save lives.
Apparently the omicron infection rate is estimated to be doubling every 1.9 days. Even if it is milder, that will still result in some nasty hospitalisation/death rates before it gets better. As one European politician observed, by next Spring there will be three types of people; the fully vaccinated, the recovered, and the dead.
Still, at least by then we should be able to go shopping without a mask.
Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:46 am
Apparently the omicron infection rate is estimated to be doubling every 1.9 days. Even if it is milder, that will still result in some nasty hospitalisation/death rates before it gets better. As one European politician observed, by next Spring there will be three types of people; the fully vaccinated, the recovered, and the dead.
Still, at least by then we should be able to go shopping without a mask.
That quote was from a politician from a country with a reluctant vaccine take up and was before Omicron. He was still addressing the Delta wave.
There are no statistics for hospitalisations or deaths. Unless you can correct me , no deaths have been directly linked to Omicron yet
George wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:06 pm
We already are clown. The latest travel restrictions were to slow / stop the spread of a variant that was already here. It didn’t do either. You won’t know who you are inviting around for dinner because the symptoms are so slight. Pointless restrictions
You keep saying that restrictions haven't slowed the spread, without any evidence and contrary to science and logic.
So we have slowed a virus that’s been around 3 weeks and is now the dominant variant. Wearing a mask in selected shops was not going to slow this variant. I have never seen proof that we have slowed any variants. It’s impossible to quantify surely
I would agree, it’s impossible to quantify. Yet you seem quite happy to quantify any restriction have had nil effect?
You keep saying that restrictions haven't slowed the spread, without any evidence and contrary to science and logic.
So we have slowed a virus that’s been around 3 weeks and is now the dominant variant. Wearing a mask in selected shops was not going to slow this variant. I have never seen proof that we have slowed any variants. It’s impossible to quantify surely
I would agree, it’s impossible to quantify. Yet you seem quite happy to quantify any restriction have had nil effect?
It’s almost as if you’re talking out your arse.
Well done for resorting to insults. A common theme on here
Since the beginning of covid, the numbers of new infections, and the number of deaths have been published on a daily basis. I've always questioned the accuracy of those figures but they're all we have.
I would now like the figures to be split. New Delta infections, and new Delta deaths, and New Omicron infections and new Omicron deaths, so we can see how deadly ( or not) Omicron is.
I strongly suspect this wont happen
So we have slowed a virus that’s been around 3 weeks and is now the dominant variant. Wearing a mask in selected shops was not going to slow this variant. I have never seen proof that we have slowed any variants. It’s impossible to quantify surely
I would agree, it’s impossible to quantify. Yet you seem quite happy to quantify any restriction have had nil effect?
It’s almost as if you’re talking out your arse.
Well done for resorting to insults. A common theme on here
Are you putting in a late bid to win the MB IMBECILE of the year award?
Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:46 am
Apparently the omicron infection rate is estimated to be doubling every 1.9 days. Even if it is milder, that will still result in some nasty hospitalisation/death rates before it gets better. As one European politician observed, by next Spring there will be three types of people; the fully vaccinated, the recovered, and the dead.
Still, at least by then we should be able to go shopping without a mask.
Think you'll find you can be both of the first two. I am.
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:02 pm
I thought it was unusual when I had to drop my trousers and have my first injection in my arse, glad to hear it is actually the norm.
[OFF] You dropped your trousers and then felt a little prìck? [/OFF]
Jack wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 10:28 am
Since the beginning of covid, the numbers of new infections, and the number of deaths have been published on a daily basis. I've always questioned the accuracy of those figures but they're all we have.
I would now like the figures to be split. New Delta infections, and new Delta deaths, and New Omicron infections and new Omicron deaths, so we can see how deadly ( or not) Omicron is.
I strongly suspect this wont happen
I'd like that too, but I dont think they are looking at all PCR tests to see what variant they are.
The good news for you is that soon Omicron will be dominant, so we can then attribute all covid deaths to it.
I'm just relieved we've now got someone to blame. All those anguished months not knowing who did it and relying on conspiraloons for info was doing my head right in.
Are any bookies taking bets on whether Johnson will cancel Christmas again? I know he will resist as much as possible, but that's got to be worth a punt.
