Coronavirus

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

Just seen it’s been named the NU variant…

[tuffers#1]

Well done. Try not to make this pandemic a political points scoring contest. It’s a fact that we delivered with the vaccine . It’s a fact we are in a better state than other European countries that are facing lockdowns.
Try again with your thicko accusations.

Other countries are simply protecting there people

I havent sen it reported that they have
Said in the past .

"LET THE BODIES PILE HIGH " .

Enjoy the.shortages of food & wine over Christmas .

[tuffers#1]

Everyone who has COVID when they die in the UK is classed as a COVID death. It matters not if it was COVID that killed them. That’s what the official figures will show.
Uk 144k , Italy 133k , France 120k , Germany 100k deaths. All countries have struggled to contain COVID , some much larger than the UK yet with similar populations.
Until this is over , and hopefully it will be soon , any silly party point scoring over total deaths should cease.

Utter B*LLOCKS !

every recorded Death of the 140,000 +
is the result of those who had a positive test in the 28 days previously .

https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transpar ... sitivetest

The daily COVID deaths counts reported on the government's COVID-19
dashboard (produced by PHE) shows deaths within 28 days of a
first positive laboratory-confirmed test. .

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths

Deaths in United Kingdom 

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Latest available data

Deaths within 28 days of positive test

Daily

147Value: 147 — Abstract information: Daily number of deaths within 28 days of first positive test, reported on Thursday, 25 November 2021.
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Total

144,433

There arr thousands who died after.28.days not on the list

[George M]

Everyone who has COVID when they die in the UK is classed as a COVID death. It matters not if it was COVID that killed them. That’s what the official figures will show.
Uk 144k , Italy 133k , France 120k , Germany 100k deaths. All countries have struggled to contain COVID , some much larger than the UK yet with similar populations.
Until this is over , and hopefully it will be soon , any silly party point scoring over total deaths should cease.

Utter B*LLOCKS !

every recorded Death of the 140,00 +
is the result of those who had a positive test in the 28 days previously .

https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transpar ... sitivetest

The daily COVID deaths counts reported on the government's COVID-19
dashboard (produced by PHE) shows deaths within 28 days of a
first positive laboratory-confirmed test. .

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths

Deaths in United Kingdom 

Click to open the localisation banner, which provides options to switch location and receive data at different geographical levels.

Click to change location

Latest available data

Deaths within 28 days of positive test

Daily

147Value: 147 — Abstract information: Daily number of deaths within 28 days of first positive test, reported on Thursday, 25 November 2021.
Click for additional details.

Total

144,433

There arr thousands who died after.28.days not on the list

I agree Tuffers. COVID positive in the previous 28 days. I don’t like using personal stories to back up facts , but I will in this case. My mother in law was in a home at the height of COVID in 2019 . Despite not being tested , she died and COVID was listed as the cause of death. She had dementia and visiting restrictions meant that she could not see her family. She was 86 and locked in her room. She simply gave up on life and died of loneliness. She won’t be the only case where COVID was used as cause of death

[George M]

Everyone who has COVID when they die in the UK is classed as a COVID death. It matters not if it was COVID that killed them. That’s what the official figures will show.
Uk 144k , Italy 133k , France 120k , Germany 100k deaths. All countries have struggled to contain COVID , some much larger than the UK yet with similar populations.
Until this is over , and hopefully it will be soon , any silly party point scoring over total deaths should cease.

Almost two years in and we still can’t level any blame at the government? Right oh.

No. I can blame this government for mistakes that were made at times through this Pandemic. But I can also offer praise where it is due. And some praise is due. What I won’t do is blame them for the spread of COVID.

[George M]

I am sure it will give you , Tuffers , and the witty , jockland genius , hours of pleasure seeing us at the top each night

I'm not easily impressed but after those compliments I'm going to take you off foe for a bit and see how it goes. A sort of pay as you foe.

Thank you. I will take that and continue to try to improve

[tuffers#1]

Everyone who has COVID when they die in the UK is classed as a COVID death. It matters not if it was COVID that killed them. That’s what the official figures will show.
Uk 144k , Italy 133k , France 120k , Germany 100k deaths. All countries have struggled to contain COVID , some much larger than the UK yet with similar populations.
Until this is over , and hopefully it will be soon , any silly party point scoring over total deaths should cease.

Utter B*LLOCKS !

every recorded Death of the 140,00 +
is the result of those who had a positive test in the 28 days previously .

https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transpar ... sitivetest

The daily COVID deaths counts reported on the government's COVID-19
dashboard (produced by PHE) shows deaths within 28 days of a
first positive laboratory-confirmed test. .

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths

Deaths in United Kingdom 

Click to open the localisation banner, which provides options to switch location and receive data at different geographical levels.

Click to change location

Latest available data

Deaths within 28 days of positive test

Daily

147Value: 147 — Abstract information: Daily number of deaths within 28 days of first positive test, reported on Thursday, 25 November 2021.
Click for additional details.

Total

144,433

There arr thousands who died after.28.days not on the list

I agree Tuffers. COVID positive in the previous 28 days. I don’t like using personal stories to back up facts , but I will in this case. My mother in law was in a home at the height of COVID in 2019 . Despite not being tested , she died and COVID was listed as the cause of death. She had dementia and visiting restrictions meant that she could not see her family. She was 86 and locked in her room. She simply gave up on life and died of loneliness. She won’t be the only case where COVID was used as cause of death

A sad event ,
However your story proves that your earlier comment about all
Who die of covid in the uk is classed as a Covid death .

Plenty like your Mother in Law who werent tested & plenty of others who would have
spent more than a month in a coma ( after 28 day tests ) are NOT INCLUDED in the
UK governments figures .
They were when we were behind Italy & Spain in early 2020.
Then when the UK went top of the death lists , we woke up one
day & the figure had miraculously dropped from 60,000 to 48,000 .

More likely to be close on 200k dead & not the reported 145 k

I wondered at 1st if these people had come back to life.
Then i learnt it was manipulation of figures by the Story Party .

I assume your Mother in Law died of covid in 2020 & not 2019 as you stated .

Either way may she Rest in Peace.

[Dunners]

NU variant now spotted in Israel.

The FT graph of the spread rate in South Africa looks grim.

[George M]

Utter B*LLOCKS !

every recorded Death of the 140,00 +
is the result of those who had a positive test in the 28 days previously .

https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transpar ... sitivetest

The daily COVID deaths counts reported on the government's COVID-19
dashboard (produced by PHE) shows deaths within 28 days of a
first positive laboratory-confirmed test. .

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths

Deaths in United Kingdom 

Click to open the localisation banner, which provides options to switch location and receive data at different geographical levels.

Click to change location

Latest available data

Deaths within 28 days of positive test

Daily

147Value: 147 — Abstract information: Daily number of deaths within 28 days of first positive test, reported on Thursday, 25 November 2021.
Click for additional details.

Total

144,433

There arr thousands who died after.28.days not on the list

I agree Tuffers. COVID positive in the previous 28 days. I don’t like using personal stories to back up facts , but I will in this case. My mother in law was in a home at the height of COVID in 2019 . Despite not being tested , she died and COVID was listed as the cause of death. She had dementia and visiting restrictions meant that she could not see her family. She was 86 and locked in her room. She simply gave up on life and died of loneliness. She won’t be the only case where COVID was used as cause of death

A sad event ,
However your story proves that your earlier comment about all
Who die of covid in the uk is classed as a Covid death .

Plenty like your Mother in Law who werent tested & plenty of others who would have
spent more than a month in a coma ( after 28 day tests ) are NOT INCLUDED in the
UK governments figures .
They were when we were behind Italy & Spain in early 2020.
Then when the UK went top of the death lists , we woke up one
day & the figure had miraculously dropped from 60,000 to 48,000 .

More likely to be close on 200k dead & not the reported 145 k

I wondered at 1st if these people had come back to life.
Then i learnt it was manipulation of figures by the Story Party .

I assume your Mother in Law died of covid in 2020 & not 2019 as you stated .

Either way may she Rest in Peace.

Thanks Tuffers. Yes , 2020

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

NU variant now spotted in Israel.

The FT graph of the spread rate in South Africa looks grim.

Pretty sure this NU variant will surge ahead with a flurry of activity then quickly tail off as it loses interest.

[tuffers#1]

I agree Tuffers. COVID positive in the previous 28 days. I don’t like using personal stories to back up facts , but I will in this case. My mother in law was in a home at the height of COVID in 2019 . Despite not being tested , she died and COVID was listed as the cause of death. She had dementia and visiting restrictions meant that she could not see her family. She was 86 and locked in her room. She simply gave up on life and died of loneliness. She won’t be the only case where COVID was used as cause of death

A sad event ,
However your story proves that your earlier comment about all
Who die of covid in the uk is classed as a Covid death .

Plenty like your Mother in Law who werent tested & plenty of others who would have
spent more than a month in a coma ( after 28 day tests ) are NOT INCLUDED in the
UK governments figures .
They were when we were behind Italy & Spain in early 2020.
Then when the UK went top of the death lists , we woke up one
day & the figure had miraculously dropped from 60,000 to 48,000 .

More likely to be close on 200k dead & not the reported 145 k

I wondered at 1st if these people had come back to life.
Then i learnt it was manipulation of figures by the Story Party .

I assume your Mother in Law died of covid in 2020 & not 2019 as you stated .

Either way may she Rest in Peace.

Thanks Tuffers. Yes , 2020

Its been a long 20 months so understandable

[Long slender neck]

NU variant now spotted in Israel.

The FT graph of the spread rate in South Africa looks grim.

Is this saying that around 10 days after it emerged, it accounted for 90% of cases in south africa?

[Dunners]

NU variant now spotted in Israel.

The FT graph of the spread rate in South Africa looks grim.

Is this saying that around 10 days after it emerged, it accounted for 90% of cases in south africa?

I think so, but across a relatively low number of samples. Therefore the true picture will emerge over the next couple of weeks. I'm not religious, but I'm tempted to start praying that this is a false alarm, because if it isn't...

[Mistadobalina]

We're f*cked. Financial markets very spooked. Ignore my don't panic comment from 24 hours ago.

[Dunners]

I'm getting a real sense of dread about this. The rapid reaction to the travel list and how Javid is sending out some very clear signals indicate that they're proper spooked.

If this is what it looks like, I think this just about kills off any semblance of hope we had been clinging onto that our previous way of life was recoverable in the short to medium term. This could lead to de-globalisation at a scale not last seen since the First World War.

[BoniO]

Is it time to start digging that "survivalists" bunker in the garden?

[Mistadobalina]

It's not back to square one. Vaccines will still be somewhat effective, we know they work and they can be updated for this strain relatively quickly. We've proven we can roll out these things very quickly as well.

Also, I may be botching the description of this, but supposedly there's only so many mutations to the spike protein that the virus can do. So even if this one is effective at escaping current vaccines, once we have updated our jabs, the virus will have less room to evolve.

It'd be massively frustrating to be set back again after we've become used to relatively normality, and further lockdowns may happen, but we're not where we were in April 2020. *

*Trying to remain upbeat

[Dunners]

Yep, I'm on board with that. If I was to summarise what I understand about this variant so far, it's this:

It's definitely not good, as all the sources I trust to be proportionate are concerned by this more than numerous other variants that have emerged. But it's still too early to say if it looks bad, or really is bad. So, there's still hope.

[Max B Gold]

Yep, I'm on board with that. If I was to summarise what I understand about this variant so far, it's this:

It's definitely not good, as all the sources I trust to be proportionate are concerned by this more than numerous other variants that have emerged. But it's still too early to say if it looks bad, or really is bad. So, there's still hope.

Yeah, probably best we hold fire for now and do nothing and see how it works out.

[Smendrick Feaselberg]

Face coverings to become mandatory in shops and on public transport again.

Good.

[ComeOnYouOs]

Face coverings to become mandatory in shops and on public transport again.

Good.

Totally agree. I've been calling for face coverings to be brought back for several weeks now, but I fear a lot will just not follow the guidance.

[Beradogs]

It’s going to start causing tension now. I have never stopped wearing masks but there are now a sizeable minority that will not wear them or wear them again. People are going to start clashing.

[Max B Gold]

It’s going to start causing tension now. I have never stopped wearing masks but there are now a sizeable minority that will not wear them or wear them again. People are going to start clashing.

Bring it on.

[Rich Tea Wellin]

Still, lucky we horded orders of the vaccines that stopped some 3rd world African countries having better access.

Turns out the I’m alright Jack brigade might not be alright after all

[Currywurst and Chips]

Two cases of the new variant found in UK

One in Brentwood FFS