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Re: no taking the knee today

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Ornchurch wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:05 pm If people are so keen to see the the taking of the knee continue why don’t they do it themselves? Start a trend. Take a knee in the stands to make a point to all of the racists alongside them.
Great idea. Now that would make an impact and the news channels. All you who are keen, off you go. I’ll be looking out on Saturday. I bet the numbers who do = 0. Or is it something just for others to do!
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Re: no taking the knee today

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You aware our ground is all seater, right?
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Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:21 pm You aware our ground is all seater, right?
Yup. Makes it easier to get up afterwards. If the people near me want to take the knee, I’ll give them space. But all nonsense really, nobody would. Just another of those things that only others should do.
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All people were asking for was to respect the players decision to do it. Not sure how you're spinning this out into some wider point about hypocrisy or virtue signalling.
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Re: no taking the knee today

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Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:21 pm You aware our ground is all seater, right?
So are churches but people still manage to take a knee.
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Mistadobalina wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:33 pm All people were asking for was to respect the players decision to do it. Not sure how you're spinning this out into some wider point about hypocrisy or virtue signalling.
And now people need to respect their decision not to do it.

But then you get comments like “It’ll be interesting on Saturday to see if we’re the first set of fans to boo their own players for not taking the knee, given what a bunch of lefties we are (the SS hoolies and assorted cabbies excluded, obviously).”
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Re: no taking the knee today

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Ornchurch wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:55 pm
Mistadobalina wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:33 pm All people were asking for was to respect the players decision to do it. Not sure how you're spinning this out into some wider point about hypocrisy or virtue signalling.
And now people need to respect their decision not to do it.

But then you get comments like “It’ll be interesting on Saturday to see if we’re the first set of fans to boo their own players for not taking the knee, given what a bunch of lefties we are (the SS hoolies and assorted cabbies excluded, obviously).”
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FFS. I’m so confused.

Who am I booing on Saturday? Racists or the players? Or do I just boo everything?
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Re: no taking the knee today

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Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 3:06 pm
Ornchurch wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:55 pm
Mistadobalina wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:33 pm All people were asking for was to respect the players decision to do it. Not sure how you're spinning this out into some wider point about hypocrisy or virtue signalling.
And now people need to respect their decision not to do it.

But then you get comments like “It’ll be interesting on Saturday to see if we’re the first set of fans to boo their own players for not taking the knee, given what a bunch of lefties we are (the SS hoolies and assorted cabbies excluded, obviously).”
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I agree. It’s hilarious.
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Re: no taking the knee today

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From this thread we can simply deduce that you’re not a racist if you take the knee and you are a racist if you don’t take the knee ???

Surely there must be much more to it than that ?
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Re: no taking the knee today

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Admin wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 3:09 pm FFS. I’m so confused.

Who am I booing on Saturday? Racists or the players? Or do I just boo everything?
Given that you’re not a complete fucktard, I’m going to wager that you won’t be booing anyone.
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Ornchurch wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:55 pm
Mistadobalina wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:33 pm All people were asking for was to respect the players decision to do it. Not sure how you're spinning this out into some wider point about hypocrisy or virtue signalling.
And now people need to respect their decision not to do it.

But then you get comments like “It’ll be interesting on Saturday to see if we’re the first set of fans to boo their own players for not taking the knee, given what a bunch of lefties we are (the SS hoolies and assorted cabbies excluded, obviously).”
No one is going to boo the players on Saturday for not taking the knee as it’s a decision taken in support of one of our black players who was racially abused who obviously thinks not enough has been done by the governing bodies and the government to stamp it out.

It really isn’t that difficult to get your head around.
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Re: no taking the knee today

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BiggsyMalone wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:41 pm
Ornchurch wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:55 pm
Mistadobalina wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:33 pm All people were asking for was to respect the players decision to do it. Not sure how you're spinning this out into some wider point about hypocrisy or virtue signalling.
And now people need to respect their decision not to do it.

But then you get comments like “It’ll be interesting on Saturday to see if we’re the first set of fans to boo their own players for not taking the knee, given what a bunch of lefties we are (the SS hoolies and assorted cabbies excluded, obviously).”
No one is going to boo the players on Saturday for not taking the knee as it’s a decision taken in support of one of our black players who was racially abused who obviously thinks not enough has been done by the governing bodies and the government to stamp it out.

It really isn’t that difficult to get your head around.
I have got my head around it. What are you getting so worked up for? 😂
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Ornchurch wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:48 pm
BiggsyMalone wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:41 pm
Ornchurch wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:55 pm

And now people need to respect their decision not to do it.

But then you get comments like “It’ll be interesting on Saturday to see if we’re the first set of fans to boo their own players for not taking the knee, given what a bunch of lefties we are (the SS hoolies and assorted cabbies excluded, obviously).”
No one is going to boo the players on Saturday for not taking the knee as it’s a decision taken in support of one of our black players who was racially abused who obviously thinks not enough has been done by the governing bodies and the government to stamp it out.

It really isn’t that difficult to get your head around.
I have got my head around it. What are you getting so worked up for? 😂
I’m not worked up. You seem to find the issue of racism so hilariously trivial, baffling really. Just keep quiet if you have nothing positive to add.
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I stand with Hotdogs. Or, more accurately, I kneel with Hotdogs.
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Re: no taking the knee today

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Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 3:32 pm
Admin wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 3:09 pm FFS. I’m so confused.

Who am I booing on Saturday? Racists or the players? Or do I just boo everything?
Given that you’re not a complete fucktard, I’m going to wager that you won’t be booing anyone.
And that is the right answer to the whole question of taking the knee. People have the right either way, without the boos.
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And I'm betting that, having stopped for one week to make a point, that they will be kneeling again going forwards.
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BoniO wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:22 pm they will be kneeling again going forwards.
Is that some sort of core workout?
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Re: no taking the knee today

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Ornchurch wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:48 pm
BiggsyMalone wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:41 pm
Ornchurch wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:55 pm

And now people need to respect their decision not to do it.

But then you get comments like “It’ll be interesting on Saturday to see if we’re the first set of fans to boo their own players for not taking the knee, given what a bunch of lefties we are (the SS hoolies and assorted cabbies excluded, obviously).”
No one is going to boo the players on Saturday for not taking the knee as it’s a decision taken in support of one of our black players who was racially abused who obviously thinks not enough has been done by the governing bodies and the government to stamp it out.

It really isn’t that difficult to get your head around.
I have got my head around it. What are you getting so worked up for? 😂
Yeah come on biggsy, why you getting so worked up about it? You’ll be having a meltdown like me if you keep this up.

You should be more like bera and not worry about this non issue. He can take it or leave it. He barely even mentions the subject.
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Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:07 pm
BoniO wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:22 pm they will be kneeling again going forwards.
Is that some sort of core workout?
Heh - I wouldn't know, I'm a fat bar-steward.
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Re: no taking the knee today

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Can they at least come up with a new name for it? 'Taking a knee' is annoying.
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Prestige Worldwide wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:49 am against people suggesting you do something yourself?
Big fan of the "if you want us to let in refugees why don't you put them up in your own home" trope.
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BoniO wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:22 pm And I'm betting that, having stopped for one week to make a point, that they will be kneeling again going forwards.
Making a point to whom? A couple of thousand who probably didn’t notice, or care or even know why. Maybe just a local thing within the club. A pointless point! But if it helps within the club, fine. And the point being?

Update. Hector clarifies the knee issue in his interview.
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https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... nee-racism

“People might boo, and that’s why we’ll keep doing it. It’s bigger than us, it’s bigger than just football. It’s something we’re trying to tackle as individuals, as a team, as a league. I think it’s important you still do it, even if it is tough, even if it is uncomfortable.

“People saying, ‘I’m sick of it, I’m sick of hearing about it’ – well, we’re sick of getting abuse, of hearing things in the news. Footballers are sick of being racially abused. We want to remind you that there is a problem and it needs to be tackled, and that’s our way of helping and propelling it forward.”
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