The referee today....
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The referee today....
... and I do use that term very loosely. The man was an absolute shambles. There were, at least, 2 stone bonk certain penalties, pulling of
shirts and barging in the Mansfield penalty area at corners. The only things he got right was the whistle at the start and finish of the game.
shirts and barging in the Mansfield penalty area at corners. The only things he got right was the whistle at the start and finish of the game.
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Re: The referee today....
Only 2 minutes added time at end of first half was a joke. A couple of injuries should have made it 5 minutes
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Harry Smith’s shirt must be about 5 sizes bigger than it was at the start. He, to his credit, didn’t complain as much as the crowd did but I guess he must be used to it. I haven’t seen as much shirt pulling go unpunished for yonks, if the Ref couldn’t see it WTF is the point of the Lino who had a clearer view.
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I know we’re biased, and I know a few of our players tried it on at times, and I know a couple of the penalty shouts were very very optimistic, but the continual shirt pulling and man handling of Smyth was f*cking ridiculous. That was as bad a display as I’ve seen since our non league days.
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The advantage of watching the stream was seeing that first half handball in the area twice. Embarrassing that both officials missed it.
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There was no doubt some very dubious decisions were made today. Quite often we complain when referees are whistle happy, this referee was the opposite letting obvious shirt pulling and pushing going unpunished. Along with natural crowd bias this leads to lots of appeals and unrest from the crowd. Unfortunately I think some referees get blinkered in these situations such that they end up treating all crowd appeals as bias and unconsciously favour the away team. Its not getting the big decisions that hurts, particularly when you consider the handball not given today, compared to the handball given against Beckles at Crewe. If Embleton had been on the touchline he would have been going ballistic. I think Jackett's calm demeanour helps so the we don't get engrossed with the referees decisions and concentrate on continuing to play and get the job done. Unfortunately today we battered away and it just wouldn't happen.
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Re: The referee today....
Smyth was playingRonnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:08 pm I know we’re biased, and I know a few of our players tried it on at times, and I know a couple of the penalty shouts were very very optimistic, but the continual shirt pulling and man handling of Smyth was f*cking ridiculous. That was as bad a display as I’ve seen since our non league days.
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The trip on Ruel Sotiriou was the clearest penalty we'll see at Orient this season . How the referee missed that I'll never know . Also from a corner Harry Smith clearly having the shirt pulled off his back . He was easily the worse referee we've had at Orient so far this season.
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I’d like to see it again, but I still think Ruel went down too easily.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:09 pm The trip on Ruel Sotiriou was the clearest penalty we'll see at Orient this season . How the referee missed that I'll never know . Also from a corner Harry Smith clearly having the shirt pulled off his back . He was easily the worse referee we've had at Orient so far this season.
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There were so many incidents I can't remember them all clearly, but was this the one when the linesman put his flag up for offside?Stowaway wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:15 pmI’d like to see it again, but I still think Ruel went down too easily.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:09 pm The trip on Ruel Sotiriou was the clearest penalty we'll see at Orient this season . How the referee missed that I'll never know . Also from a corner Harry Smith clearly having the shirt pulled off his back . He was easily the worse referee we've had at Orient so far this season.
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I’ve never seen so much shirt pulling go unpunished before. I would like to hear what the Referees assessor thought of his performance today, it was like going back to the National League.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:09 pm The trip on Ruel Sotiriou was the clearest penalty we'll see at Orient this season . How the referee missed that I'll never know . Also from a corner Harry Smith clearly having the shirt pulled off his back . He was easily the worse referee we've had at Orient so far this season.
Harry Smith’s shirt must be ‘Dart player’ size by now.
I wonder if the ‘highlights’ video will show any of the incidents………..the only one I can say he got right was when James clearly dived late in the 2nd half……..it’s not good to see any players cheating.
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Yes, just after Ruel was fouled .y o y o y wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:18 pmThere were so many incidents I can't remember them all clearly, but was this the one when the linesman put his flag up for offside?Stowaway wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:15 pmI’d like to see it again, but I still think Ruel went down too easily.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:09 pm The trip on Ruel Sotiriou was the clearest penalty we'll see at Orient this season . How the referee missed that I'll never know . Also from a corner Harry Smith clearly having the shirt pulled off his back . He was easily the worse referee we've had at Orient so far this season.
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Re: The referee today....
I wouldn't trust that referee with my dirty washing let alone a football match
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So Ruel was fouled into an offside position?
Loads of bad calls by the officials without having to reference that and make ourselves look silly.
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Most of the referees at this level are incompetent, we just have to count ourselves lucky that this refs incompetence didnt lose us the game
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The problem was though this refs incompetence helped considerably to us getting 1 point when should’ve had 3.
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2 minutes stoppage time in first half was the biggest joke of all. The blood injury to the Mansfield defender in the box was 4 minutes on it’s own. I pay good money to watch 90 minutes of football not 80-85 ..... ridiculous.
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My, he has grown a bit whilst off injured. The stretching exercises are working a treat.BIGRON wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:06 pmSmyth was playingRonnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:08 pm I know we’re biased, and I know a few of our players tried it on at times, and I know a couple of the penalty shouts were very very optimistic, but the continual shirt pulling and man handling of Smyth was f*cking ridiculous. That was as bad a display as I’ve seen since our non league days.
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Think everyone being a bit harsh. The first pen shout (and the only one where it was a pen) his view was obscured if you saw it. The Lino had the direct line of sight and it was his job to flag. He didn’t. The second one, they are almost never given. The sending off, again it was the Lino who had to make the call and did. Yes, there were some niggly bits and bobs that he missed but at least he kept his cards in his pocket and the game flowed accordingly and was really enjoyable. Last week, where it was all stop start, we get 6 bookings and there was barely a bad foul.
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Re: The referee today....
I think I'm being charitable in calling Referee Speedie incompetent
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I’ve said it before, it wasn’t the couple of legitimate penalty shouts. It was the continuous pulling on Smith that was unbelievable.Beradogs wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 2:22 pm Think everyone being a bit harsh. The first pen shout (and the only one where it was a pen) his view was obscured if you saw it. The Lino had the direct line of sight and it was his job to flag. He didn’t. The second one, they are almost never given. The sending off, again it was the Lino who had to make the call and did. Yes, there were some niggly bits and bobs that he missed but at least he kept his cards in his pocket and the game flowed accordingly and was really enjoyable. Last week, where it was all stop start, we get 6 bookings and there was barely a bad foul.