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Could the switch from ISIS to ASOS help her pick up some of Megan Markles lost votes?
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Travel has clearly helped her broaden her horizons
Would like to hear some of her stories from her gap yah
Would like to hear some of her stories from her gap yah
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I can't see the difference in what happened to her and when kids get sucked into gang culture etc. The pull to belong to something is massive at the age when you are turning from a child to an adult. Your hormones and senses, the way you see things, is all over the place and takes time to form.
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She should be compensated for the upset and stress that she has been forced to endure
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She was groomed, it’s as simple as that.The Mindsweep wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:26 am I can't see the difference in what happened to her and when kids get sucked into gang culture etc. The pull to belong to something is massive at the age when you are turning from a child to an adult. Your hormones and senses, the way you see things, is all over the place and takes time to form.
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PW said "Why doesnt she just hop on a dinghy?"
I think for these sort of insensitive, racist & probably sexist views, PW deserves to give himself a lifetime ban.
I think for these sort of insensitive, racist & probably sexist views, PW deserves to give himself a lifetime ban.
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I think this young woman should be allowed to come back to the UK.
She made a big mistake as a child of 15, now seems genuinely sorry, and should be given a chance back here
She made a big mistake as a child of 15, now seems genuinely sorry, and should be given a chance back here
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Clive Evans wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 10:04 am PW said "Why doesnt she just hop on a dinghy?"
I think for these sort of insensitive, racist & probably sexist views, PW deserves to give himself a lifetime ban.
What I mean is, theres nothing we can do to stop the dinghy arrivals. If she could afford it, it would be a viable option for her.
I think you need to UTLB as you're clearly a bit of a snowflake.
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Oh please. It really isn’t as simple as it being a case of her being groomed. When did it become a thing for this lazy default to victim status as an excuse for narcissistic arseholes doing c*ntish things? This is an insult to actual victims of real grooming, who were specifically targeted by their abusers.
She actively sought this stuff out herself. She deliberately went to a region and ideology knowing full well that it would be her job to spread her legs to reward its soldiers for their butchery, rape and brutalisation of infidels. The knowledge of what was happening there, and what would be expected from her, was hardly a secret. It was actively celebrated and glorified, but these arseholes justified it in their own heads as they had ‘reasons’.
And I’m not saying this as one of the dim-witted “let her rot there” brigade, as I fully believe the UK has a responsibility to bring her back here. But this wet nonsense needs to be called out. Next thing you’ll be nominating her for a Pride of Britain award.
Yes, she was young and that needs to be considered. Yes, we all did stupid things when we were young. But I think most people know where to draw the line, and mine was at the point of decapitating journalists, raping women and strapping vests packed with explosives to six year olds. And it is reasonable for society to expect its citizens, even at the age of 15, to get that.
She actively sought this stuff out herself. She deliberately went to a region and ideology knowing full well that it would be her job to spread her legs to reward its soldiers for their butchery, rape and brutalisation of infidels. The knowledge of what was happening there, and what would be expected from her, was hardly a secret. It was actively celebrated and glorified, but these arseholes justified it in their own heads as they had ‘reasons’.
And I’m not saying this as one of the dim-witted “let her rot there” brigade, as I fully believe the UK has a responsibility to bring her back here. But this wet nonsense needs to be called out. Next thing you’ll be nominating her for a Pride of Britain award.
Yes, she was young and that needs to be considered. Yes, we all did stupid things when we were young. But I think most people know where to draw the line, and mine was at the point of decapitating journalists, raping women and strapping vests packed with explosives to six year olds. And it is reasonable for society to expect its citizens, even at the age of 15, to get that.
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You seem to have gone off the Muslims.Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 10:31 am Oh please. It really isn’t as simple as it being a case of her being groomed. When did it become a thing for this lazy default to victim status as an excuse for narcissistic arseholes doing c*ntish things? This is an insult to actual victims of real grooming, who were specifically targeted by their abusers.
She actively sought this stuff out herself. She deliberately went to a region and ideology knowing full well that it would be her job to spread her legs to reward its soldiers for their butchery, rape and brutalisation of infidels. The knowledge of what was happening there, and what would be expected from her, was hardly a secret. It was actively celebrated and glorified, but these arseholes justified it in their own heads as they had ‘reasons’.
And I’m not saying this as one of the dim-witted “let her rot there” brigade, as I fully believe the UK has a responsibility to bring her back here. But this wet nonsense needs to be called out. Next thing you’ll be nominating her for a Pride of Britain award.
Yes, she was young and that needs to be considered. Yes, we all did stupid things when we were young. But I think most people know where to draw the line, and mine was at the point of decapitating journalists, raping women and strapping vests packed with explosives to six year olds. And it is reasonable for society to expect its citizens, even at the age of 15, to get that.
Your post comes across as angry and lacking in understanding. You do know how grooming works, right?
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I think what is odd is she'd have more of a shot at a second chance and rehabilitation if she'd murdered someone in cold blood here. She's been put in some unprecedented category of evil that, as far as I'm aware, no other kid ever has.
That's not to downplay the seriousness of what she did, but the home office has effectively tried to write her life off on the grounds of her being a second generation immigrant. That is the only reason it was even vaguely possible to remove her citizenship (though still doubt it'll hold in courts.) They could not have done it if her parents were born in the UK.
That's not to downplay the seriousness of what she did, but the home office has effectively tried to write her life off on the grounds of her being a second generation immigrant. That is the only reason it was even vaguely possible to remove her citizenship (though still doubt it'll hold in courts.) They could not have done it if her parents were born in the UK.
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Does a person aged 15 or 16 not know the difference between right and wrong?
If they don't then the blame should lay with the parents. Why not lock them up as well for being bad parents?
If they don't then the blame should lay with the parents. Why not lock them up as well for being bad parents?
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I would have thought so as there are enough Muslim sex grooming groups about, especially in the north of England.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 10:40 amYou seem to have gone off the Muslims.Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 10:31 am Oh please. It really isn’t as simple as it being a case of her being groomed. When did it become a thing for this lazy default to victim status as an excuse for narcissistic arseholes doing c*ntish things? This is an insult to actual victims of real grooming, who were specifically targeted by their abusers.
She actively sought this stuff out herself. She deliberately went to a region and ideology knowing full well that it would be her job to spread her legs to reward its soldiers for their butchery, rape and brutalisation of infidels. The knowledge of what was happening there, and what would be expected from her, was hardly a secret. It was actively celebrated and glorified, but these arseholes justified it in their own heads as they had ‘reasons’.
And I’m not saying this as one of the dim-witted “let her rot there” brigade, as I fully believe the UK has a responsibility to bring her back here. But this wet nonsense needs to be called out. Next thing you’ll be nominating her for a Pride of Britain award.
Yes, she was young and that needs to be considered. Yes, we all did stupid things when we were young. But I think most people know where to draw the line, and mine was at the point of decapitating journalists, raping women and strapping vests packed with explosives to six year olds. And it is reasonable for society to expect its citizens, even at the age of 15, to get that.
Your post comes across as angry and lacking in understanding. You do know how grooming works, right?
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Racist IMBECILE in racist post shock.Ornchurch wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 12:26 pmI would have thought so as there are enough Muslim sex grooming groups about, especially in the north of England.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 10:40 amYou seem to have gone off the Muslims.Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 10:31 am Oh please. It really isn’t as simple as it being a case of her being groomed. When did it become a thing for this lazy default to victim status as an excuse for narcissistic arseholes doing c*ntish things? This is an insult to actual victims of real grooming, who were specifically targeted by their abusers.
She actively sought this stuff out herself. She deliberately went to a region and ideology knowing full well that it would be her job to spread her legs to reward its soldiers for their butchery, rape and brutalisation of infidels. The knowledge of what was happening there, and what would be expected from her, was hardly a secret. It was actively celebrated and glorified, but these arseholes justified it in their own heads as they had ‘reasons’.
And I’m not saying this as one of the dim-witted “let her rot there” brigade, as I fully believe the UK has a responsibility to bring her back here. But this wet nonsense needs to be called out. Next thing you’ll be nominating her for a Pride of Britain award.
Yes, she was young and that needs to be considered. Yes, we all did stupid things when we were young. But I think most people know where to draw the line, and mine was at the point of decapitating journalists, raping women and strapping vests packed with explosives to six year olds. And it is reasonable for society to expect its citizens, even at the age of 15, to get that.
Your post comes across as angry and lacking in understanding. You do know how grooming works, right?
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Ahhh. Selective grooming.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 12:32 pmRacist IMBECILE in racist post shock.Ornchurch wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 12:26 pmI would have thought so as there are enough Muslim sex grooming groups about, especially in the north of England.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 10:40 am
You seem to have gone off the Muslims.
Your post comes across as angry and lacking in understanding. You do know how grooming works, right?