Premier League to make vaccines mandatory

[KVN]

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details ... n_hospital
Today there are 5001 people in hospital with COVID 19.
On this day last year there were 1538.
Today there were 84 deaths and a seven day average of 55.
On this day last year there were 53 deaths with a seven day average of 62.
All this is on the above Government link under Patients in Hospital with COVID 19, under the Data section.
Can anybody seriously have any faith in a rushed vaccine based on the above figures.

And by the time we find out what is wrong it will be too late!

The govt policy has always been herd immunity. That hasn't changed.

They are pushing it again now because they can take some comfort from the vaccination programme. There has to be a vaccine before herd immunity is viable.

The gamble is twofold: Will more deadly variants develop from mass infection? Politically how many deaths can the public turn a blind Covid eye to?

It depends on the media they can make 1 death sounds as devestating as 100

[Adz]

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details ... n_hospital
Today there are 5001 people in hospital with COVID 19.
On this day last year there were 1538.
Today there were 84 deaths and a seven day average of 55.
On this day last year there were 53 deaths with a seven day average of 62.
All this is on the above Government link under Patients in Hospital with COVID 19, under the Data section.
Can anybody seriously have any faith in a rushed vaccine based on the above figures.

Comparing a single day to the previous year makes no sense as it needs to be taken into the context of the outbreak (e.g. lockdown, restrictions, etc), surely you understand that. These tables and charts should help simplify it for you

[Dohnut]

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details ... n_hospital
Today there are 5001 people in hospital with COVID 19.
On this day last year there were 1538.
Today there were 84 deaths and a seven day average of 55.
On this day last year there were 53 deaths with a seven day average of 62.
All this is on the above Government link under Patients in Hospital with COVID 19, under the Data section.
Can anybody seriously have any faith in a rushed vaccine based on the above figures.

You're too thick to interpret the figures properly so I'm not surprised you don't understand vaccines.

Surprised you managed to sign up to this forum given your constant and strange dedication to advertising publicly what a thicko you are

He constantly spouts utter rubbish. He has no understanding of the issue. I sometimes think he says what he does, not because he believes it to be true, but to get a reaction. Make him feel important. You use the word thicko, I couldn’t possibly comment.

[KVN]

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details ... n_hospital
Today there are 5001 people in hospital with COVID 19.
On this day last year there were 1538.
Today there were 84 deaths and a seven day average of 55.
On this day last year there were 53 deaths with a seven day average of 62.
All this is on the above Government link under Patients in Hospital with COVID 19, under the Data section.
Can anybody seriously have any faith in a rushed vaccine based on the above figures.

You're too thick to interpret the figures properly so I'm not surprised you don't understand vaccines.

Surprised you managed to sign up to this forum given your constant and strange dedication to advertising publicly what a thicko you are

He constantly spouts utter rubbish. He has no understanding of the issue. I sometimes think he says what he does, not because he believes it to be true, but to get a reaction. Make him feel important. You use the word thicko, I couldn’t possibly comment.

https://ibb.co/ZNW4LVr
This could be seen as an inability to controll infection rates but with a trade off in a lower deaths rate per population.
But that would sugest we are happy with the current death rate and deem it an acceptable norm.
So further restriction could decrease it but for how long and at what other cost to society.
Also i might add are covid deaths still calculated the same way, in the begining if you got hit by a car or died of other complications and were covid positive this counted as a covid death.

[Story of O]

They changed that. It is now counted as a Covid death if someone tests positive within 28 days prior to death.

[KVN]

So you cant compare stats exactly.

[Still wrong]

So you cant compare stats exactly.

No, but you can compare hospital admissions with COVID.
Last summer there was hardly any, and this was without a vaccine and mask wearing.

[Still wrong]

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details ... n_hospital
Today there are 5001 people in hospital with COVID 19.
On this day last year there were 1538.
Today there were 84 deaths and a seven day average of 55.
On this day last year there were 53 deaths with a seven day average of 62.
All this is on the above Government link under Patients in Hospital with COVID 19, under the Data section.
Can anybody seriously have any faith in a rushed vaccine based on the above figures.

You're too thick to interpret the figures properly so I'm not surprised you don't understand vaccines.

Surprised you managed to sign up to this forum given your constant and strange dedication to advertising publicly what a thicko you are

He constantly spouts utter rubbish. He has no understanding of the issue. I sometimes think he says what he does, not because he believes it to be true, but to get a reaction. Make him feel important. You use the word thicko, I couldn’t possibly comment.

No understanding of the issue and thick?
Coming from someone who thinks he is perfectly safe sitting next to someone who received two COVID vaccinations tells me all I need to know.

[Still wrong]

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details ... n_hospital
Today there are 5001 people in hospital with COVID 19.
On this day last year there were 1538.
Today there were 84 deaths and a seven day average of 55.
On this day last year there were 53 deaths with a seven day average of 62.
All this is on the above Government link under Patients in Hospital with COVID 19, under the Data section.
Can anybody seriously have any faith in a rushed vaccine based on the above figures.

Comparing a single day to the previous year makes no sense as it needs to be taken into the context of the outbreak (e.g. lockdown, restrictions, etc), surely you understand that. These tables and charts should help simplify it for you

I suggest you read the information at the bottom of the page.
The second wave is taken from the 8th September 2020.
The third wave is taken from the 14th May this year. ( the beginning of the summer)
No comparison whatsoever and incredibly stupid to think it is.

[Story of O]

Nothing is ever perfectly safe but we still do things. For example, you get in a car and put a seat belt on but that won’t always save you in an accident but you stand a better chance wearing it than not

[Still's Carenae]

The figures need to be put into context.

Firstly the number of overall deaths each day should be advised along with the covid figures. Average number of people dying each day is around 1700. This will put numbers into better perspective.

Second the number of deaths from covid and those with covid as a secondary issue should be shown. The ONS have publicly stated that the figures are around 75/25 of the above.

Thirdly the number of people dying of flu and pneumonia should be shown as a separate figure. This will give a better a better perception of how strong the virus is.

But if you do this the media would not have a good story to tell. SPI-B have a lot to anawer for.

[Still's Carenae]

People have the right not to have the vaccine but on the grounds of health and safety should not have he right to infect others, therefore I fully support the Premier League and any other clubs in the football pyramid that make it mandatory to only allow players and supporters into the ground that have both jabs and can prove it.
If supporters want to be stupid enough to put themselves at risk that's their personal choice but they have no right to put others at risk and therefore should not be allowed into football grounds.

So you don't think the vaccine works. Don't worry you are in line with the government.

But tell me, seeing as our main killers are all food related (nearly a 1000 people a day die from this in the UK). Do you think that only healthy unprocessed food and drink should be sold at football grounds?

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

Nothing is ever perfectly safe but we still do things. For example, you get in a car and put a seat belt on but that won’t always save you in an accident but you stand a better chance wearing it than not

Are there 100 people a day dying in car accidents?

[Sid Bishop]

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details ... n_hospital
Today there are 5001 people in hospital with COVID 19.
On this day last year there were 1538.
Today there were 84 deaths and a seven day average of 55.
On this day last year there were 53 deaths with a seven day average of 62.
All this is on the above Government link under Patients in Hospital with COVID 19, under the Data section.
Can anybody seriously have any faith in a rushed vaccine based on the above figures.

You're too thick to interpret the figures properly so I'm not surprised you don't understand vaccines.

Surprised you managed to sign up to this forum given your constant and strange dedication to advertising publicly what a thicko you are

He constantly spouts utter rubbish. He has no understanding of the issue. I sometimes think he says what he does, not because he believes it to be true, but to get a reaction. Make him feel important. You use the word thicko, I couldn’t possibly comment.

Meanwhile ..........A California man who mocked Covid-19 vaccines on social media has died after a month-long battle with the virus.
Stephen Harmon, a member of the Hillsong megachurch, had been a vocal opponent of vaccines, making a series of jokes about not having the vaccine. "Got 99 problems but a vax ain't one," the 34-year-old tweeted to his 7,000 followers in June.
He was treated for pneumonia and Covid-19 in a hospital outside Los Angeles, where he died on Wednesday.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57958358

[Still wrong]

You're too thick to interpret the figures properly so I'm not surprised you don't understand vaccines.

Surprised you managed to sign up to this forum given your constant and strange dedication to advertising publicly what a thicko you are

He constantly spouts utter rubbish. He has no understanding of the issue. I sometimes think he says what he does, not because he believes it to be true, but to get a reaction. Make him feel important. You use the word thicko, I couldn’t possibly comment.

Meanwhile ..........A California man who mocked Covid-19 vaccines on social media has died after a month-long battle with the virus.
Stephen Harmon, a member of the Hillsong megachurch, had been a vocal opponent of vaccines, making a series of jokes about not having the vaccine. "Got 99 problems but a vax ain't one," the 34-year-old tweeted to his 7,000 followers in June.
He was treated for pneumonia and Covid-19 in a hospital outside Los Angeles, where he died on Wednesday.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57958358

And did he have any underlying health conditions Sid?

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

Is stupidity a health condition?

[Still wrong]

Is stupidity a health condition?

Could be
On the other hand at least one person probably died after the vaccine, so who knows.

[Sid Bishop]

Is stupidity a health condition?

Could be
On the other hand at least one person probably died after the vaccine, so who knows.

4 Million have so far died worldwide of Covid and god knows how many hundreds of millions are suffering from long covid.
Deaths from having a Covid vaccine are of course tragic but are not in any way on the same massive scale.

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

Is stupidity a health condition?

Could be
On the other hand at least one person probably died after the vaccine, so who knows.

The scientists do.

[LeytonstoneRed07]

Covid-19 is the gift that keeps on giving. To date, boffins and witchdoctors have linked Covid-19 to vertigo, tinnitus, depression, stroke, dementia, hearing voices, stuttering, hiccups, memory loss, sore toe, piles, sight loss and psychosis.

Add erectile dysfunction to the list.

They think we’re a bunch of suckers. Not all of us.

[Currywurst and Chips]

Covid-19 is the gift that keeps on giving. To date, boffins and witchdoctors have linked Covid-19 to vertigo, tinnitus, depression, stroke, dementia, hearing voices, stuttering, hiccups, memory loss, sore toe, piles, sight loss and psychosis.

Add erectile dysfunction to the list.

They think we’re a bunch of suckers. Not all of us.

I hear another possible side effect of this hilarious disease is death too

[Still wrong]

Covid-19 is the gift that keeps on giving. To date, boffins and witchdoctors have linked Covid-19 to vertigo, tinnitus, depression, stroke, dementia, hearing voices, stuttering, hiccups, memory loss, sore toe, piles, sight loss and psychosis.

Add erectile dysfunction to the list.

They think we’re a bunch of suckers. Not all of us.

I hear another possible side effect of this hilarious disease is death too

Not for the VAST majority.

[PoundhillO]

Covid-19 is the gift that keeps on giving. To date, boffins and witchdoctors have linked Covid-19 to vertigo, tinnitus, depression, stroke, dementia, hearing voices, stuttering, hiccups, memory loss, sore toe, piles, sight loss and psychosis.

Add erectile dysfunction to the list.

They think we’re a bunch of suckers. Not all of us.

I hear another possible side effect of this hilarious disease is death too

Not for the VAST majority.

Mainly for those that are stupid enough not to get double jabbed.

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

Covid-19 is the gift that keeps on giving. To date, boffins and witchdoctors have linked Covid-19 to vertigo, tinnitus, depression, stroke, dementia, hearing voices, stuttering, hiccups, memory loss, sore toe, piles, sight loss and psychosis.

Add erectile dysfunction to the list.

They think we’re a bunch of suckers. Not all of us.

I hear another possible side effect of this hilarious disease is death too

Not for the VAST majority.

That’s not much of a comfort if you’re in the minority.

[Story of O]

Sadly people will die from lots of things. We try to keep the numbers down as best we can but it can never be stopped