Coronavirus Vaccine.
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Coronavirus Vaccine.
I've heard from several different sources that the vaccine is inaffective against the Delta Virus. Can anyone verify that this is the case ? Thanks
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Re: Coronavirus Vaccine.
Looking at the governments own slides today, of a random 500 in hospital with COVID, 36 had been double jabbed so partially effective is the answer. One or two more mutations should make them useless by about October.
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Re: Coronavirus Vaccine.
None of the vaccines have ever stated they are 100% effective, however they have all had proven effectiveness and symptoms reduction. Despite mutations none of them as yet have been made useless. As the number of people vaccinated goes up, the percentage of those vaccinated catching the disease will go up just due to mathematics. Despite increasing cases, the deaths continue to drop.
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Re: Coronavirus Vaccine.
Yeah, the whole "confusing source for sauce" thing is nothing other downright tedious after being done for the umpteenth time.
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Re: Coronavirus Vaccine.
Please don’t allow fake news Referee?
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Re: Coronavirus Vaccine.
Both Covid and Flu are viral infections. Antibiotics are used against bacterial infections and are a waste of time against viruses.
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Re: Coronavirus Vaccine.
Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:53 amBoth Covid and Flu are viral infections. Antibiotics are used against bacterial infections and are a waste of time against viruses.
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Re: Coronavirus Vaccine.
None of the vaccines have ever stated they are 100% effective, however they have all had proven effectiveness and symptoms reduction. Despite mutations none of them as yet have been made useless. As the number of people vaccinated goes up, the percentage of those vaccinated catching the disease will go up just due to mathematics. Despite increasing cases, the deaths continue to drop.
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Re: Coronavirus Vaccine.
The way I understood it is that the vaccines greatly reduces the chances of you dying or getting seriously sick with Covid . It doesn’t actually stops you from catching it . Look, this virus is going nowhere and is here to stay . We’re just going to have to learn to live with it. We can’t keep going on having lockdowns after lockdowns otherwise it would have been a waste of time getting vaccinated
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Re: Coronavirus Vaccine.
vaccineRedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:57 pm The way I understood it is that the vaccines greatly reduces the chances of you dying or getting seriously sick with Covid . It doesn’t actually stops you from catching it . Look, this virus is going nowhere and is here to stay . We’re just going to have to learn to live with it. We can’t keep going on having lockdowns after lockdowns otherwise it would have been a waste of time getting vaccinated
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It’s not a vaccine, please stop calling it that.
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Re: Coronavirus Vaccine.
What sources? If its your mate down the pub then it does not count. Of course its effective, its the degree of effectiveness that has some concerned - but the data from most official sources suggests that the vaccination programme is doing a solid job. If we left it unchecked then the virus had the possibility to be as effective as many of the plagues detailed in history.
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Re: Coronavirus Vaccine.
It's been officially reported in the LBH that even though some of the staff have had two vaccinations they have still tested positiveLittleMate wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:16 pmWhat sources? If its your mate down the pub then it does not count. Of course its effective, its the degree of effectiveness that has some concerned - but the data from most official sources suggests that the vaccination programme is doing a solid job. If we left it unchecked then the virus had the possibility to be as effective as many of the plagues detailed in history.
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Re: Coronavirus Vaccine.
The main issue we have in this country is the continuing number of cases. Over 16,000 today.
We must keep a lid on this as it will drive the potential for further mutations, making the vaccines ever less effective.
We must keep a lid on this as it will drive the potential for further mutations, making the vaccines ever less effective.
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Re: Coronavirus Vaccine.
Bullocks.!Mickys Bullock wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:44 pmvaccineRedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:57 pm The way I understood it is that the vaccines greatly reduces the chances of you dying or getting seriously sick with Covid . It doesn’t actually stops you from catching it . Look, this virus is going nowhere and is here to stay . We’re just going to have to learn to live with it. We can’t keep going on having lockdowns after lockdowns otherwise it would have been a waste of time getting vaccinated
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It’s not a vaccine, please stop calling it that.
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Re: Coronavirus Vaccine.
Does anyone know if there are medium or long term side effects from these vaccines?
I have been googling all day, and i cant find any information about medium term or long term possible effects
Anyone know anything?
I have been googling all day, and i cant find any information about medium term or long term possible effects
Anyone know anything?
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Re: Coronavirus Vaccine.
One side effect is you become very inquisitive, and keep looking for things that are not there
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Re: Coronavirus Vaccine.
The truthful answer is that we don't know the long term side effects, much in the same way we don't know the long term side effects of getting covid itself. But we do know that the short to medium term risks of getting covid are vastly, vastly, vastly higher than the vaccine. 2 million people are suffering from long covid in this country, on top of the 130k+ who have died. The number of people who have died from adverse reactions to the vaccines are tiny.
Vaccine resistant strains of covid don't suddenly make the vaccines useless or mean we're back at square one. They'll still give you a much stronger immune response and greatly reduce your chances of serious illness/death. That is being borne out by the numbers right now. Deaths as a proportion of cases have plummeted and despite cases having risen steadily for 6 weeks now, the increase in people dying has barely risen, and even then, consists mainly of people who have not been vaccinated.