Tory Watch

[Kimpon]

52% turn out, in a by election where Governing Conservatives have an 80 seat majority. Labour lost deposit. Lib Dem’s now have 12 seats. Tuffers, you are furiously having a hand shandy prematurely.

[KVN]

2019 10 million people voted Labour .
There arent 10 million vegan lovers in the country .

Its metaphorical vegan it is the rise of the middle class.

If you focus on one word It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not concentrate on the finger, or you will miss all of the heavenly glory.

You talk some utter twaddle

I know that was from Enter the dragon, but you are right. Although labour have historically needed scotland to win in westminster. The rise in strength of the snp and labour are now weaker than the conservatives there.

If you north of England towards minority right wing parties and the conservatives. This highlights the conservative nature of england and shows that labour needs to dominate in scotland to win power. Which they are not.

Furthermore, last time labour were in power they where almost a conservative party in new labour under tony blair and the swing to the left under jeremy corbyn has damaged their popularity forcing them into a more centrally alligned party.

But again I do talk twaddle.

[BoniO]

52% turn out, in a by election where Governing Conservatives have an 80 seat majority. Labour lost deposit. Lib Dem’s now have 12 seats. Tuffers, you are furiously having a hand shandy prematurely.

Yes, but whereas having a hand shandy is never a waste of time the same cannot be said for your posts.

[Sid Bishop]

Its metaphorical vegan it is the rise of the middle class.

If you focus on one word It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not concentrate on the finger, or you will miss all of the heavenly glory.

You talk some utter twaddle

I know that was from Enter the dragon, but you are right. Although labour have historically needed scotland to win in westminster. The rise in strength of the snp and labour are now weaker than the conservatives there.

If you north of England towards minority right wing parties and the conservatives. This highlights the conservative nature of england and shows that labour needs to dominate in scotland to win power. Which they are not.

Furthermore, last time labour were in power they where almost a conservative party in new labour under tony blair and the swing to the left under jeremy corbyn has damaged their popularity forcing them into a more centrally alligned party.

But again I do talk twaddle.

IF Scotland voted to become independent, then virtually no opposition to a permanent Conservative government and even more so the case if Wales became independent, so Lefties beware of what you wish for ! Other options available to them would be to "up sticks" and move to the new "Socialist Heavens" of Wales and Scotland, but as proved when Trump gained power, the luvvies who pledged to leave the US if Trump won, soon forget their pledges and stayed where they were, talk is cheap !

[KVN]

You talk some utter twaddle

I know that was from Enter the dragon, but you are right. Although labour have historically needed scotland to win in westminster. The rise in strength of the snp and labour are now weaker than the conservatives there.

If you north of England towards minority right wing parties and the conservatives. This highlights the conservative nature of england and shows that labour needs to dominate in scotland to win power. Which they are not.

Furthermore, last time labour were in power they where almost a conservative party in new labour under tony blair and the swing to the left under jeremy corbyn has damaged their popularity forcing them into a more centrally alligned party.

But again I do talk twaddle.

IF Scotland voted to become independent, then virtually no opposition to a permanent Conservative government and even more so the case if Wales became independent, so Lefties beware of what you wish for ! Other options available to them would be to "up sticks" and move to the new "Socialist Heavens" of Wales and Scotland, but as proved when Trump gained power, the luvvies who pledged to leave the US if Trump won, soon forget their pledges and stayed where they were, talk is cheap !

I agree if scotland left labour wouldn't win controll of westminster for the forseen future. They would be as relivant as the lib-dems.

[Sid Bishop]

I know that was from Enter the dragon, but you are right. Although labour have historically needed scotland to win in westminster. The rise in strength of the snp and labour are now weaker than the conservatives there.

If you north of England towards minority right wing parties and the conservatives. This highlights the conservative nature of england and shows that labour needs to dominate in scotland to win power. Which they are not.

Furthermore, last time labour were in power they where almost a conservative party in new labour under tony blair and the swing to the left under jeremy corbyn has damaged their popularity forcing them into a more centrally alligned party.

But again I do talk twaddle.

IF Scotland voted to become independent, then virtually no opposition to a permanent Conservative government and even more so the case if Wales became independent, so Lefties beware of what you wish for ! Other options available to them would be to "up sticks" and move to the new "Socialist Heavens" of Wales and Scotland, but as proved when Trump gained power, the luvvies who pledged to leave the US if Trump won, soon forget their pledges and stayed where they were, talk is cheap !

I agree if scotland left labour wouldn't win controll of westminster for the forseen future. They would be as relivant as the lib-dems.

Even more so if Wales left !! At present, Tories and Labour have lost Scotland to the SNP and when it comes to votes in the House of Commons, SNP and Welsh non Tories normally back up the Labour Party ! As you correctly say, without the votes from these two countries, Labour would be on much the same level as the Lib -Dems !

[KVN]

So labour's real opposition party is the the SNP.

[KVN]

And ironically the stronger the SNP get the less the tory's need to listen to them about independence as they weaken labour the tory's strongest opposition.

[RedDwarf 1881]

It was claimed on the radio that it was mostly a protest vote against HS2. Apparently it's going straight through the middle of their area

[tuffers#1]

Chesham & Amersham

You have too much time on your hands.

Copy& paste
4 laughs c& p
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[tuffers#1]

52% turn out, in a by election where Governing Conservatives have an 80 seat majority. Labour lost deposit. Lib Dem’s now have 12 seats. Tuffers, you are furiously having a hand shandy prematurely.

Yes yes
Tory Incompetence keeps going
Yet i supposedly have the Hand shandy

Ok JEF .

[tuffers#1]

Its metaphorical vegan it is the rise of the middle class.

If you focus on one word It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not concentrate on the finger, or you will miss all of the heavenly glory.

You talk some utter twaddle

I know that was from Enter the dragon, but you are right. Although labour have historically needed scotland to win in westminster. The rise in strength of the snp and labour are now weaker than the conservatives there.

If you north of England towards minority right wing parties and the conservatives. This highlights the conservative nature of england and shows that labour needs to dominate in scotland to win power. Which they are not.

Furthermore, last time labour were in power they where almost a conservative party in new labour under tony blair and the swing to the left under jeremy corbyn has damaged their popularity forcing them into a more centrally alligned party.

But again I do talk twaddle.

Nearly a conservative party ?

Yeah thats why they wan 3 elections in a row .

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[Dohnut]

The Tories got a short sharp reminder that despite no real opposition from Labour, they need to avoid complacency. This result in a way was bad for the Lib Dems and Labour. The Tories will look at this hiding, regroup and be that much more focussed in the future. The loss of one seat makes no real difference, especially after picking one up earlier.

If either party wants to seriously challenge the Tories it will need a sustained programme of policies that interest people and by a party people believe are able to deliver. Forget the Lib Dems, bit part players. So it’s down to Starmer. Coming in behind the Greens didn’t help.

[tuffers#1]

This WILL HAPPEN AGAIN

[KVN]

You talk some utter twaddle

I know that was from Enter the dragon, but you are right. Although labour have historically needed scotland to win in westminster. The rise in strength of the snp and labour are now weaker than the conservatives there.

If you north of England towards minority right wing parties and the conservatives. This highlights the conservative nature of england and shows that labour needs to dominate in scotland to win power. Which they are not.

Furthermore, last time labour were in power they where almost a conservative party in new labour under tony blair and the swing to the left under jeremy corbyn has damaged their popularity forcing them into a more centrally alligned party.

But again I do talk twaddle.

Nearly a conservative party ?

Yeah thats why they wan 3 elections in a row .

⚘

Yes that is why they wan 3 elections in a row. But how long ago was that?

[Ornchurch]

This WILL HAPPEN AGAIN

Only when Labour find another smarmy tosser who comes across as well as Blair and can con the electorate as well as Boris.

[tuffers#1]

I know that was from Enter the dragon, but you are right. Although labour have historically needed scotland to win in westminster. The rise in strength of the snp and labour are now weaker than the conservatives there.

If you north of England towards minority right wing parties and the conservatives. This highlights the conservative nature of england and shows that labour needs to dominate in scotland to win power. Which they are not.

Furthermore, last time labour were in power they where almost a conservative party in new labour under tony blair and the swing to the left under jeremy corbyn has damaged their popularity forcing them into a more centrally alligned party.

But again I do talk twaddle.

Nearly a conservative party ?

Yeah thats why they wan 3 elections in a row .

⚘

Yes that is why they wan 3 elections in a row. But how long ago was that?

But if was Still Labour .
1997 -2010 3 election wins on the trot over 13 years .
The tories coulndt win outright the 2010 election &
Have had to have 3 elections in 6 years
2015-2019 to try & get some kind of unstable government
By lying & cheating there way through .

⚘
We'll keep the RED flag flying high

[tuffers#1]

This WILL HAPPEN AGAIN

Only when Labour find another smarmy tosser who comes across as well as Blair and can con the electorate as well as Boris.

Bodge the incompetent?

[KVN]

Nearly a conservative party ?

Yeah thats why they wan 3 elections in a row .

⚘

Yes that is why they wan 3 elections in a row. But how long ago was that?

But if was Still Labour .
1997 -2010 3 election wins on the trot over 13 years .
The tories coulndt win outright the 2010 election &
Have had to have 3 elections in 6 years
2015-2019 to try & get some kind of unstable government
By lying & cheating there way through .

⚘
We'll keep the RED flag flying high

Why not have an election if there is no one to beat you. Good with the waiting,

[tuffers#1]

Yes that is why they wan 3 elections in a row. But how long ago was that?

But if was Still Labour .
1997 -2010 3 election wins on the trot over 13 years .
The tories coulndt win outright the 2010 election &
Have had to have 3 elections in 6 years
2015-2019 to try & get some kind of unstable government
By lying & cheating there way through .

⚘
We'll keep the RED flag flying high

Why not have an election if there is no one to beat you. Good with the waiting,

Que ?

[KVN]

But if was Still Labour .
1997 -2010 3 election wins on the trot over 13 years .
The tories coulndt win outright the 2010 election &
Have had to have 3 elections in 6 years
2015-2019 to try & get some kind of unstable government
By lying & cheating there way through .

⚘
We'll keep the RED flag flying high

Why not have an election if there is no one to beat you. Good with the waiting,

Que ?

Its not a risk because the tory's do not have anyone to challenge them. But if labour did get in they would be very similar to the tory's so much it would make little difference. Beacuse that it what happened under Blair.
That is what you are waiting to happen and when it does it wont make any difference.

[tuffers#1]

Why not have an election if there is no one to beat you. Good with the waiting,

Que ?

Its not a risk because the tory's do not have anyone to challenge them. But if labour did get in they would be very similar to the tory's so much it would make little difference. Beacuse that it what happened under Blair.
That is what you are waiting to happen and when it does it wont make any difference.

You are waffling !

Give it up .

As for the 3 elections
Cameron won in 2015 & called a brexit vote he lost .
He then resigned , tressamae rhen won an election but
Couldnt get tory rebels like gove weasel Mogg & Bodge
To tow the line . She held an election & lost .
Bodge won an election on getting #brexitdone ,
Which he claimed he did & now the Story Party are asking
The EU for an extension so they can get chilled meats &
Still trying to come to terms with boarder issues .

Are you sure you have followed whats been going on since 2015 ?

[Clive Evans]

Ex Tory Speaker John Bercow joins the Labour Party.

[KVN]

Que ?

Its not a risk because the tory's do not have anyone to challenge them. But if labour did get in they would be very similar to the tory's so much it would make little difference. Beacuse that it what happened under Blair.
That is what you are waiting to happen and when it does it wont make any difference.

You are waffling !

Give it up .

As for the 3 elections
Cameron won in 2015 & called a brexit vote he lost .
He then resigned , tressamae rhen won an election but
Couldnt get tory rebels like gove weasel Mogg & Bodge
To tow the line . She held an election & lost .
Bodge won an election on getting #brexitdone ,
Which he claimed he did & now the Story Party are asking
The EU for an extension so they can get chilled meats &
Still trying to come to terms with boarder issues .

Are you sure you have followed whats been going on since 2015 ?

You being deliberately stupid i said that the labour government had to turn tory to win those elections. I don't think the tory's are doing a good job, which makes it more sad that labour keeps losing to them time after time .

Now that you lost you have no chance of a return to power, even more so if they get independance.
Even Boris is beating you, the man clearly has lost control but labour can not capitalise on it.

But you keep waiting for the second coming.

[KVN]

Its not a risk because the tory's do not have anyone to challenge them. But if labour did get in they would be very similar to the tory's so much it would make little difference. Beacuse that it what happened under Blair.
That is what you are waiting to happen and when it does it wont make any difference.

You are waffling !

Give it up .

As for the 3 elections
Cameron won in 2015 & called a brexit vote he lost .
He then resigned , tressamae rhen won an election but
Couldnt get tory rebels like gove weasel Mogg & Bodge
To tow the line . She held an election & lost .
Bodge won an election on getting #brexitdone ,
Which he claimed he did & now the Story Party are asking
The EU for an extension so they can get chilled meats &
Still trying to come to terms with boarder issues .

Are you sure you have followed whats been going on since 2015 ?

You being deliberately stupid i said that the labour government had to turn tory to win those elections. I don't think the tory's are doing a good job, which makes it more sad that labour keeps losing to them time after time .

Now that you lost you have no chance of a return to power, even more so if they get independance.
Even Boris is beating you, the man clearly has lost control but labour can not capitalise on it.

But you keep waiting for the second coming.

The number of elections and not in question, they just dont mean anything.