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Re: Craig Clay

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Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 2:13 pm
BiggsyMalone wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 1:53 pm
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 1:38 pm

That, and his glaring lack of technical ability and positional sense.
Because he’s covering for his sh*t team mates
Yeah you’re right, that’s why he can’t trap or pass a ball.
He clearly can, you’re being too harsh
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Re: Craig Clay

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Two year contract.
Really😂
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Re: Craig Clay

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Craig Clay has played 83 games for the O's since his transfer from Motherwell FC and in all those games he has scored just one goal.
Not a very good return on investment is it?
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Re: Craig Clay

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Chicken Dhansak wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 5:37 pm Craig Clay has played 83 games for the O's since his transfer from Motherwell FC and in all those games he has scored just one goal.
Not a very good return on investment is it?
Non league material.
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Re: Craig Clay

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Chicken Dhansak wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 5:37 pm Craig Clay has played 83 games for the O's since his transfer from Motherwell FC and in all those games he has scored just one goal.
Not a very good return on investment is it?
Was he bought to score goals?
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Re: Craig Clay

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The criticism of Clay on this board is nothing short of DISGUSTING. Hang your heads in SHAME
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Re: Craig Clay

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Sam Ling has gone so they need another scapegoat, what a lovely bunch they are
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Re: Craig Clay

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You know you are allowed to discuss the merits of various players on this two-bob message board. It's kind of the point.
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Re: Craig Clay

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Chicken Dhansak wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 5:37 pm Craig Clay has played 83 games for the O's since his transfer from Motherwell FC and in all those games he has scored just one goal.
Not a very good return on investment is it?
According to Wikipedia he's played 152 games for us and scored 5 goals.
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Re: Craig Clay

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It appears to me that most successful teams have a midfield that weighs in with a decent number of goals. We haven't had that for a while, and CC seems unlikely to discover his shooting boots, but we can hope I guess.
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Re: Craig Clay

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BiggsyMalone wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 5:26 pm
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 2:13 pm
BiggsyMalone wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 1:53 pm
Because he’s covering for his sh*t team mates
Yeah you’re right, that’s why he can’t trap or pass a ball.
He clearly can, you’re being too harsh
Oh come on.

His only real attribute is running around a lot. When played further forward, he does have some success pressuring players into mistakes and winning the ball back.

But that’s it.
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Re: Craig Clay

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Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 6:46 pm
BiggsyMalone wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 5:26 pm
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 2:13 pm

Yeah you’re right, that’s why he can’t trap or pass a ball.
He clearly can, you’re being too harsh
Oh come on.

His only real attribute is running around a lot. When played further forward, he does have some success pressuring players into mistakes and winning the ball back.

But that’s it.
I used to think the same about Ji Sung Park, but looking back, I underrated him
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Re: Craig Clay

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BiggsyMalone wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 6:49 pm
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 6:46 pm
BiggsyMalone wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 5:26 pm
He clearly can, you’re being too harsh
Oh come on.

His only real attribute is running around a lot. When played further forward, he does have some success pressuring players into mistakes and winning the ball back.

But that’s it.
I used to think the same about Ji Sung Park, but looking back, I underrated him
Which conclusively proves you do not have an eye for a player.
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Re: Craig Clay

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Max B Gold wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 7:03 pm
BiggsyMalone wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 6:49 pm
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 6:46 pm

Oh come on.

His only real attribute is running around a lot. When played further forward, he does have some success pressuring players into mistakes and winning the ball back.

But that’s it.
I used to think the same about Ji Sung Park, but looking back, I underrated him
Which conclusively proves you do not have an eye for a player.
The same Ji Sung Park that played a pivotal squad role in winning league titles and the European Cup. The same man that was one of Sir Alex Ferguson’s most underrated players. I think his opinion is a bit more worthy than yours
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Re: Craig Clay

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Clay is a decent player, but in IMO not good enough for a team chasing promotion next season.
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Re: Craig Clay

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Really surprised we've not only extended but on a long contract too. Can't fault the effort levels but he came off distinctly second best against the top half CMs.

Perhaps there's a role as a squad player providing cover and fresh legs off the bench but we need to improve on our current midfield to have any chance of reaching our ambitions.
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Re: Craig Clay

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EastDerehamO wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 6:25 pm
Chicken Dhansak wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 5:37 pm Craig Clay has played 83 games for the O's since his transfer from Motherwell FC and in all those games he has scored just one goal.
Not a very good return on investment is it?
According to Wikipedia he's played 152 games for us and scored 5 goals.
If that is so, then those stats are a lot worse. As a midfielder, holding or otherwise, he should be scoring more than 5 in a 152 games.
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Re: Craig Clay

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I’m a amazed he’s got that many. Are they including training?
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Re: Craig Clay

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I like Craig Clay, and think some of the comments are really harsh.

His work rate is very good, and the only fault i can find is, his goalscoring isnt great for a midfielder.

Im glad he's been given another contract
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Re: Craig Clay

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LittleMate wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 4:03 pm
Scuba Diver wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 3:53 pm I think Clay is okay.
Sure, he makes mistakes, but does a lot of the dirty stuff, and his attitude is unquestionable.

No idea if his terms have been reduced, but, I think he may do well under an experienced manager.
If a side had 10 Craig Clays the football may not be pretty but that side would be in league one right now.
How? That side would never score a goal!
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Re: Craig Clay

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OK with this. Let's see what Kenny can do with Clay to help him regain his top form. At his best Clay is a good addition to the squad
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Re: Craig Clay

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As l recall, Craig was Mr Creative the playmaker midfielder for Motherwell, he had a reputation of being a tad "mercurial" and was required to show he had the grafter side of his game, especially
when Jobi was the king of the middle. l reckon Clay still has the skills, he just hasn't had the chance to show it . Fingers crossed, he'll come good.
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Re: Craig Clay

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I agree with Milano.

He'll come good with KJ
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Re: Craig Clay

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Guys, you’ve had 4 years to realise he can’t pass. Come on now.
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Re: Craig Clay

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I’m surprised that he’s been given TWO years and wonder if KJ had any say in that.
I think his work rate is his strong point but really there isn’t too much else I’m afraid, but I hope I and others on here are proved wrong and KJ can improve him as a player.
Really feel we need better quality in CM though if we gonna chase a top 3 spot.
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