Matt Porter on the managerial appointment

[Snowyash]

Supposedly ‘Calibre of person we have spoken to is phenomenal’

Don’t hold much confidence if that’s based on Ross and Jobi, but hope that there is some very good managers involved.

https://www.eastlondonadvertiser.co.uk/ ... nt-7977412

[Bergen]

"Leyton Orient reportedly down to final three candidates. Kenny Jackett, Colin Calderwood and Paul Tisdale are allegedly the final after undergoing the interview process".

https://www.eastlondonadvertiser.co.uk/ ... es-7980124

[Type high]

I get the impression that Martin Ling has been side lined in the decision making process and from now on Mat Porter is back on duty, odds on Calderwood may lengthen now, possible Kenny Jacket's will shorten

[EastDerehamO]

Jackett or Tisdale would do very nicely, not so keen on Calderwood as not much recent success, but if it is to be one of those three at least we'd get a manager with experience and some success on their CV, which is what many of us have been crying out for, as it gives a greater chance (not a guarantee) of success - Embleton/ Fletcher/ Jobi, none of them ticked that box.

[Snowyash]

Okay so rank those 3 in order of preference:

1. Tisdale - Very proven at this level with Exeter
2. Jackett - More experience than Tisdale, but more L1 and Champ level, might not be able to get us out of this league.
3. Calderwood - backup to the two above

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

I get the impression that Martin Ling has been side lined in the decision making process and from now on Mat Porter is back on duty

Give over.

No disrespect to Porter but he’s just a fan like the rest of us. He has as much football knowledge as us, or Travis or Teague.

This will be Lingys call, and rightfully so.

[Type high]

I get the impression that Martin Ling has been side lined in the decision making process and from now on Mat Porter is back on duty

Give over.

No disrespect to Porter but he’s just a fan like the rest of us. He has as much football knowledge as us, or Travis or Teague.

This will be Lingys call, and rightfully so.

Mat Porter got Russell Slade for us, Ling is not the main guy in this anymore

[Smendrick Feaselberg]

Okay so rank those 3 in order of preference:

1. Tisdale - Very proven at this level with Exeter
2. Jackett - More experience than Tisdale, but more L1 and Champ level, might not be able to get us out of this league.
3. Calderwood - backup to the two above

Got to say that I'd be happy with either one or two, and not keen on Calderwood.

We've already been through this thing with Sam Ling for 2.5 years about him only being signed and in the team because of his dad. We'd get similar sniping and resentment among the fans group if Calderwood took over. Besides, I don't think he offers as much as either of the other two anyway.

[RedDwarf 1881]

Out of those three I'd choose Kenny Jackett .

[RedDwarf 1881]

Okay so rank those 3 in order of preference:

1. Tisdale - Very proven at this level with Exeter
2. Jackett - More experience than Tisdale, but more L1 and Champ level, might not be able to get us out of this league.
3. Calderwood - backup to the two above

Got to say that I'd be happy with either one or two, and not keen on Calderwood.

We've already been through this thing with Sam Ling for 2.5 years about him only being signed and in the team because of his dad. We'd get similar sniping and resentment among the fans group if Calderwood took over. Besides, I don't think he offers as much as either of the other two anyway.

Very true. If its Calderwood and we hit a bump in the road Ling will get a right slagging off for hiring his mate.

[Top of the JES]

First Interview Stage = Ling, Porter and Macklin. Second Interviews T&T and other board members final decision basically T&T.

Theres a lot of disingenuous stuff written on this board about Matt Porter, dont get it myself experienced as a CEO at the club and was on the League 2 management committee before he left when Beelzebub came in - far from being "just a fan"

[Scuba Diver]

I get the impression that Martin Ling has been side lined in the decision making process and from now on Mat Porter is back on duty, odds on Calderwood may lengthen now, possible Kenny Jacket's will shorten

Possible: I'm starting to think ML is either leaving, or having a role-change, and possibly job-title change.

No doubt Calderwood is well regarded as a Coach, but less so as a manager..

The other two you would place firmly in the Manager category I would think. I'm not sure what someone like Jackett (say), would actually need ML for...so I think there may be more changes afoot.

[cockhat]

I get the impression that Martin Ling has been side lined in the decision making process and from now on Mat Porter is back on duty

Give over.

No disrespect to Porter but he’s just a fan like the rest of us. He has as much football knowledge as us, or Travis or Teague.

This will be Lingys call, and rightfully so.

Why should it be Ling’s call?
He’s fu*ked up on all appointments apart from JE!

[The Mindsweep]

I get the impression that Martin Ling has been side lined in the decision making process and from now on Mat Porter is back on duty, odds on Calderwood may lengthen now, possible Kenny Jacket's will shorten

Possible: I'm starting to think ML is either leaving, or having a role-change, and possibly job-title change.

No doubt Calderwood is well regarded as a Coach, but less so as a manager..

The other two you would place firmly in the Manager category I would think. I'm not sure what someone like Jackett (say), would actually need ML for...so I think there may be more changes afoot.

Jackett the manager with Calderwood coach, sorted

[Dohnut]

I get the impression that Martin Ling has been side lined in the decision making process and from now on Mat Porter is back on duty

Give over.

No disrespect to Porter but he’s just a fan like the rest of us. He has as much football knowledge as us, or Travis or Teague.

This will be Lingys call, and rightfully so.

Ling will no doubt have a major say,

But as businessmen, Travis and Teague will be well versed in making senior appointments for positions that they personally have little expertise in. The CV and references will contain all they need to know about the credentials of the interviewee. They will be assessing the character, managerial qualities, personality, leadership qualities. After Fletcher, Travis admitted he should have got more involved.

So it is quite possible that Ling’s role in this appointment may be reduced. In fact, I suspect most of the negotiations are taking place directly with the Board.

[Monkey Boy]

I get the impression that Martin Ling has been side lined in the decision making process and from now on Mat Porter is back on duty

Give over.

No disrespect to Porter but he’s just a fan like the rest of us. He has as much football knowledge as us, or Travis or Teague.

This will be Lingys call, and rightfully so.

Really? Davis,Fletcher,Embleton (twice) and Jobi wasn’t Ling instrumental in appointing those ? I wouldn’t trust Ling to appoint the tea lady/person. Let Ling sort the contracts and the academy out.

[waigO]

I get the impression that Martin Ling has been side lined in the decision making process and from now on Mat Porter is back on duty

Give over.

No disrespect to Porter but he’s just a fan like the rest of us. He has as much football knowledge as us, or Travis or Teague.

This will be Lingys call, and rightfully so.

Why should it be Ling’s call?
He’s fu*ked up on all appointments apart from JE!

Overseen year on year improvement in league position and a promotion.

Ling is one part of the interview process. The management team and board ultimately sign the appointment off so are equally accountable.

[PoundhillO]

I get the impression that Martin Ling has been side lined in the decision making process and from now on Mat Porter is back on duty

Give over.

No disrespect to Porter but he’s just a fan like the rest of us. He has as much football knowledge as us, or Travis or Teague.

This will be Lingys call, and rightfully so.

Really? Davis,Fletcher,Embleton (twice) and Jobi wasn’t Ling instrumental in appointing those ? I wouldn’t trust Ling to appoint the tea lady/person. Let Ling sort the contracts and the academy out.

Totally agree about Ling, am still concerned about him sorting the contracts out.

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

I get the impression that Martin Ling has been side lined in the decision making process and from now on Mat Porter is back on duty

Give over.

No disrespect to Porter but he’s just a fan like the rest of us. He has as much football knowledge as us, or Travis or Teague.

This will be Lingys call, and rightfully so.

Why should it be Ling’s call?
He’s fu*ked up on all appointments apart from JE!

Based on the hierarchy.

How can you have a manager reporting in to a Director of Football, and have the appointment made by a couple of blokes from America and one who spends his days making Bazza cups of tea?

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

I get the impression that Martin Ling has been side lined in the decision making process and from now on Mat Porter is back on duty

Give over.

No disrespect to Porter but he’s just a fan like the rest of us. He has as much football knowledge as us, or Travis or Teague.

This will be Lingys call, and rightfully so.

Ling will no doubt have a major say,

But as businessmen, Travis and Teague will be well versed in making senior appointments for positions that they personally have little expertise in. The CV and references will contain all they need to know about the credentials of the interviewee. They will be assessing the character, managerial qualities, personality, leadership qualities. After Fletcher, Travis admitted he should have got more involved.

So it is quite possible that Ling’s role in this appointment may be reduced. In fact, I suspect most of the negotiations are taking place directly with the Board.

Think back to your Business Days when you were IT Director. When you appointed an IT manager, did the Board interview and make that decision for you? Or was it your responsibility to recruit and appoint the lucky person reporting directly into you?

[Max B Gold]

Give over.

No disrespect to Porter but he’s just a fan like the rest of us. He has as much football knowledge as us, or Travis or Teague.

This will be Lingys call, and rightfully so.

Ling will no doubt have a major say,

But as businessmen, Travis and Teague will be well versed in making senior appointments for positions that they personally have little expertise in. The CV and references will contain all they need to know about the credentials of the interviewee. They will be assessing the character, managerial qualities, personality, leadership qualities. After Fletcher, Travis admitted he should have got more involved.

So it is quite possible that Ling’s role in this appointment may be reduced. In fact, I suspect most of the negotiations are taking place directly with the Board.

Think back to your Business Days when you were IT Director. When you appointed an IT manager, did the Board interview and make that decision for you? Or was it your responsibility to recruit and appoint the lucky person reporting directly into you?

He was the Board mate.

[Smendrick Feaselberg]

I believe any of these three candidates would do a good job at Lofc
All have achieved are decent people on the u tube interviews I watched of them and are highly regarded in the football world.

its shame we can't get all on Lofc and two will be disappointed

Yep - though in the meantime there are other vacancies and we could find out shortlist whittled down in the meantime for reasons out of our control.

[Orient Punxx]

Would be quite amusing if Jackett chose Barrow over us (12/1 in the betting)!

[PoundhillO]

I believe any of these three candidates would do a good job at Lofc
All have achieved are decent people on the u tube interviews I watched of them and are highly regarded in the football world.

its shame we can't get all on Lofc and two will be disappointed

Yep - though in the meantime there are other vacancies and we could find out shortlist whittled down in the meantime for reasons out of our control.

Why am I not surprised !

[Dohnut]

Give over.

No disrespect to Porter but he’s just a fan like the rest of us. He has as much football knowledge as us, or Travis or Teague.

This will be Lingys call, and rightfully so.

Ling will no doubt have a major say,

But as businessmen, Travis and Teague will be well versed in making senior appointments for positions that they personally have little expertise in. The CV and references will contain all they need to know about the credentials of the interviewee. They will be assessing the character, managerial qualities, personality, leadership qualities. After Fletcher, Travis admitted he should have got more involved.

So it is quite possible that Ling’s role in this appointment may be reduced. In fact, I suspect most of the negotiations are taking place directly with the Board.

Think back to your Business Days when you were IT Director. When you appointed an IT manager, did the Board interview and make that decision for you? Or was it your responsibility to recruit and appoint the lucky person reporting directly into you?

Look at it from a different perspective. When I was an IT professional, the people interviewing me for senior roles knew naff all about computers, bar doing spreadsheets. But they knew about business, people, personalities, could read a CV and were capable of getting references by way of independent verification.

I was never in 30 years in a senior role, interviewed by an IT expert. They were hiring me because that’s what they wanted, not what they had. Some may find it strange, but it is in fact routine for senior appointments.

Junior posts may well be interviewed by their boss-to-be. They not having the opportunity to create a long working history.

It’s the way it works. That you don’t understand is down to you.