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Dunners wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 3:37 pm Is A Pedant A-Stud?
No, I'm A Pedant. Have been since the Buono days, no aliases.
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Re: Coronavirus

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A Pedant wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 5:27 pm
Dunners wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 3:37 pm Is A Pedant A-Stud?
No, I'm A Pedant. Have been since the Buono days, no aliases.
In that case you owe him royalties for the use of multi-quote.
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tuffers#1 wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 3:08 pm
George wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:44 pm And with 340,000 cases yesterday it would have been more sensible to have Red listed India months ago. Perhaps 200,000 registered cases a day wasn’t enough.
I was in Spain in July and we were given no notice of quarantine rules. They were introduced without warning. Not sure why India should be different.
But congratulations to Boris for adding India to the red list now. Cracking decision
India is different becuase there will be lots of people with dual British/Indian citizenship
Also the Vaccines in the majority are made there .

Think about it like this .

Nigel Travis has been in London recently
Kent Teague hasnt .
Why ?

Nigel is a British/American dual Citizenship
Kent is an American Citizen
Singular citizenship .

British Citizens can come here as long as they stay in the Hotels & pass covid tests .
I understand that Tuffers. It’s more the fact that they were not on the red list earlier. I know they have had to do the home quarantine but we also know that not many adhere to that.
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Re: Coronavirus

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A Pedant wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 5:24 pm
George wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:40 pm The last paragraph still applies
So you don't want us to concentrate on your views on travel from India any more? Just on the fact you're a selfish **** looking for any excuse to stop following the Covid rules?
Concentrate on what you see fit. I have never hidden or changed my views on lockdown. Because I have worked through it , it hasn’t affected my routine that much.
I have put myself in a controlled risk situation so I don’t think I need lecturing on the rules.
As I said earlier , happy to abide by the rules as long as it’s the same for everyone. Clearly , in this case , it isn’t
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I am surprised that more on here have not shown their anger at this issue. After a year , and all we have learnt about transmission, we are still allowing travel from risk countries.
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Re: Coronavirus

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George wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:22 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 3:08 pm
George wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:44 pm And with 340,000 cases yesterday it would have been more sensible to have Red listed India months ago. Perhaps 200,000 registered cases a day wasn’t enough.
I was in Spain in July and we were given no notice of quarantine rules. They were introduced without warning. Not sure why India should be different.
But congratulations to Boris for adding India to the red list now. Cracking decision
India is different becuase there will be lots of people with dual British/Indian citizenship
Also the Vaccines in the majority are made there .

Think about it like this .

Nigel Travis has been in London recently
Kent Teague hasnt .
Why ?

Nigel is a British/American dual Citizenship
Kent is an American Citizen
Singular citizenship .

British Citizens can come here as long as they stay in the Hotels & pass covid tests .
I understand that Tuffers. It’s more the fact that they were not on the red list earlier. I know they have had to do the home quarantine but we also know that not many adhere to that.
Maybe now you can understand why so many people are so f*cked off with the tories &
The death toll in the U.K being 127,000 . Tory Incompetence
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Tuffers , as a Tory voter I have to agree that there are aspects of this pandemic that they have clearly failed on.
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Well at least you can do that .
Many just spend there day slagging off the
Labour Party who arent even in Power !
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George wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:33 pm I am surprised that more on here have not shown their anger at this issue. After a year , and all we have learnt about transmission, we are still allowing travel from risk countries.
Some clearly haven’t learnt anything about transmission!
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If this variant that's ripping through India, and appears to be disproportionately hospitalising/killing the under 45s, becomes dominant around the world, I think we're proper f*cked.
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George wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:51 pm Tuffers , as a Tory voter I have to agree that there are aspects of this pandemic that they have clearly failed on.
Probably be simpler to agree on the aspects they haven’t failed on.
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My sister has a friend who works in customs at Dover , she reckons about half the illegal immigrants who are arriving after crossing the channel in all sorts of boats are testing positive ( apparently all arrivals who are caught are tested ) 🤔🤔
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Modhi is definitely to blame for this spike in India

His top adviser drove from Mumbai to Pune recently so that explains why things are so bad.
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Going very well in Israel - no deaths reported.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-56868383
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Dunners wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 7:34 am If this variant that's ripping through India, and appears to be disproportionately hospitalising/killing the under 45s, becomes dominant around the world, I think we're proper f*cked.
Source?
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BIGRON wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:14 am My sister has a friend who works in customs at Dover , she reckons about half the illegal immigrants who are arriving after crossing the channel in all sorts of boats are testing positive ( apparently all arrivals who are caught are tested ) 🤔🤔
Rock solid source, there.
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Re: Coronavirus

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Prestige Worldwide wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:00 am
Dunners wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 7:34 am If this variant that's ripping through India, and appears to be disproportionately hospitalising/killing the under 45s, becomes dominant around the world, I think we're proper f*cked.
Source?
Supposedly a former government aide called Dan Khannings
leaked a phone conversation to the press !
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Blood clot reports double in a fortnight.
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Inside a long Covid clinic - a reminder that not dying from Covid is not the same as recovering from it.

Over a thousand people being treated in that one clinic, another 500 on the waiting list; 83 such clinics planned to open across England by the end of April, with more likely to be needed in the future. Of note that the age group most likely to report long Covid symptoms is 35-49.
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Prestige Worldwide wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:30 pm Blood clot reports double in a fortnight.
Googled this but didn't come across anything. Where is it from?
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Re: Coronavirus

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1 in 240k to one in 126k, eh?

Guess that's still a reasonable amount of people.
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A recent study suggests the risk of a cerebral blood clot from covid itself is 10 times higher than from the AZ vaccine.

https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n1005
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Maybe so, but why not just get a vaccine that has less risk of giving you a clot?
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Prestige Worldwide wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:59 pm Maybe so, but why not just get a vaccine that has less risk of giving you a clot?
Which one?

If this report is accurate - https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2021-04-15-ri ... 9-vaccines - there is not much difference in the blood clot risk between the AZ and the mRNA vaccines (Pfizer / Moderna). And the J&J vaccine is currently being investigated.

Plus for the current age groups being vaccinated I am not aware that you get a choice in the UK, except to refuse. Only the under 30s have been told they can take an alternative.
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