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https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... high-court

The health secretary, Matt Hancock, acted unlawfully by
failing to publish multibillion-pound Covid-19 government
contracts within the 30-day period required by law, a
high court judge has ruled.

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Blooming Unlawful Tories again !!!
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I'm mpressed with the group.brining these actions. However, what happens next? Is this just to embarrasse the government or can something actually come of this?

I know if I act unlawfully or I break the law I'm sure I'd be in the cop shop answering questions.
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You.could always vote the unscrupulous b*st*rds out at the Next GE !
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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/b ... d=msedgdhp

What the XXXX is all this about? Other than fooling the simpletons?

Laughable in the extreme. :lol:
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56128879

Boris Johnson's main adviser on keeping the UK together has departed, saying his position was made "untenable" by others within Downing Street
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In Johnson' efforts to please his fan club of Brexiteers (by presenting himself as tough and uncompromising) here is yet another major industry and livelihoods he destroyed:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-55721729
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Hancock needs to go
Jenrick needs to go
Williamson needs to go

All useless and incompetent
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"I’m not sure that getting something wrong is the same as deliberately flouting the law.”

says the government's justice secretary in excusing Hancock's conduct that has been deemed unlawful by a court.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ach-of-law
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I do like these
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tuffers#1 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:44 pm
Tuffers. There are 3 obvious reasons why are death rate is high.
1. A heavily populated country. 67 million in a country half the size of France and Spain making it much easier to spread.
2. A decent NHS and high standard of living meaning a highly aged population.
3. Highest obesity rates in Western Europe.

It is not easy to compare death rates
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George wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:20 am
tuffers#1 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:44 pm
Tuffers. There are 3 obvious reasons why are death rate is high.
1. A heavily populated country. 67 million in a country half the size of France and Spain making it much easier to spread.
2. A decent NHS and high standard of living meaning a highly aged population.
3. Highest obesity rates in Western Europe.

It is not easy to compare death rates
Weren't death rates in France Spain & Italy supposed to excede
The death rate here . At least thats what you said at the time !
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Maybe George we should compare the UK to that
world powerhouse with a bigger population but a
much smaller land mass ?
Bangladesh
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tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:39 am Maybe George we should compare the UK to that
world powerhouse with a bigger population but a
much smaller land mass ?
Bangladesh
That’s probably a good reason for not comparing countries without all the facts. Better to stick to European countries.
I suspect that when this ends , and all the factors are taken into account, all of Europe will be equally as bad.
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George wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:16 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:39 am Maybe George we should compare the UK to that
world powerhouse with a bigger population but a
much smaller land mass ?
Bangladesh
That’s probably a good reason for not comparing countries without all the facts. Better to stick to European countries.
I suspect that when this ends , and all the factors are taken into account, all of Europe will be equally as bad.
You think ?

Ill disagree with that statement !
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tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:19 pm
George wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:16 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:39 am Maybe George we should compare the UK to that
world powerhouse with a bigger population but a
much smaller land mass ?
Bangladesh
That’s probably a good reason for not comparing countries without all the facts. Better to stick to European countries.
I suspect that when this ends , and all the factors are taken into account, all of Europe will be equally as bad.
You think ?

Ill disagree with that statement !
As is your right Tuffers , and at the end of all this I will apologise if I am proved to be incorrect
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George wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:58 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:19 pm
George wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:16 pm

That’s probably a good reason for not comparing countries without all the facts. Better to stick to European countries.
I suspect that when this ends , and all the factors are taken into account, all of Europe will be equally as bad.
You think ?

Ill disagree with that statement !
As is your right Tuffers , and at the end of all this I will apologise if I am proved to be incorrect
Dont worry about apologising
Just accept sometimes the knowledge you thought
you had was incorrect .
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George wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:16 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:39 am Maybe George we should compare the UK to that
world powerhouse with a bigger population but a
much smaller land mass ?
Bangladesh
That’s probably a good reason for not comparing countries without all the facts. Better to stick to European countries.
I suspect that when this ends , and all the factors are taken into account, all of Europe will be equally as bad.
The numbers to compare are deaths per 100000 and the Brits are flying high on this.

As for the glorious vaccine provision to outdo the EU: the UK government bought them before they had passed all the customary safety checks and our government indemnified the manufacturers against any adverse consequences! Yes, in order to score political points against the EU (and in support of Brexit) this government was willing to risk people suffering serious adverse consequences.

Remember thalidomide?
Should a responsible government really take such risks on possible detrimental consequences just to manipulate the public perception?
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E10EU wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:40 am
George wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:16 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:39 am Maybe George we should compare the UK to that
world powerhouse with a bigger population but a
much smaller land mass ?
Bangladesh
That’s probably a good reason for not comparing countries without all the facts. Better to stick to European countries.
I suspect that when this ends , and all the factors are taken into account, all of Europe will be equally as bad.
The numbers to compare are deaths per 100000 and the Brits are flying high on this.

As for the glorious vaccine provision to outdo the EU: the UK government bought them before they had passed all the customary safety checks and our government indemnified the manufacturers against any adverse consequences! Yes, in order to score political points against the EU (and in support of Brexit) this government was willing to risk people suffering serious adverse consequences.

Remember thalidomide?
Should a responsible government really take such risks on possible detrimental consequences just to manipulate the public perception?
Well done government!
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E10EU wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:40 am
George wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:16 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:39 am Maybe George we should compare the UK to that
world powerhouse with a bigger population but a
much smaller land mass ?
Bangladesh
That’s probably a good reason for not comparing countries without all the facts. Better to stick to European countries.
I suspect that when this ends , and all the factors are taken into account, all of Europe will be equally as bad.
The numbers to compare are deaths per 100000 and the Brits are flying high on this.

As for the glorious vaccine provision to outdo the EU: the UK government bought them before they had passed all the customary safety checks and our government indemnified the manufacturers against any adverse consequences! Yes, in order to score political points against the EU (and in support of Brexit) this government was willing to risk people suffering serious adverse consequences.

Remember thalidomide?
Should a responsible government really take such risks on possible detrimental consequences just to manipulate the public perception?
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E10EU wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:40 am
George wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:16 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:39 am Maybe George we should compare the UK to that
world powerhouse with a bigger population but a
much smaller land mass ?
Bangladesh
That’s probably a good reason for not comparing countries without all the facts. Better to stick to European countries.
I suspect that when this ends , and all the factors are taken into account, all of Europe will be equally as bad.
The numbers to compare are deaths per 100000 and the Brits are flying high on this.

As for the glorious vaccine provision to outdo the EU: the UK government bought them before they had passed all the customary safety checks and our government indemnified the manufacturers against any adverse consequences! Yes, in order to score political points against the EU (and in support of Brexit) this government was willing to risk people suffering serious adverse consequences.

Remember thalidomide?
Should a responsible government really take such risks on possible detrimental consequences just to manipulate the public perception?
Deaths per 100000 don’t tell the true story though do they. Tuffers doesn’t get it. If 100000 live in the whole of France and 100000 live on the Isle of White , where do you think the death rate will be higher. There would be virtually no deaths in France , but huge numbers on the Island.
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Our average life expectancy is about the same as the other countries you've mentioned, we tend to live in less dense cities than Spain, France, Italy etc so the comparison you're making is a bit redudant. The size of the country matters less than the density of places where people actually live. For example, Barcelona is 8x as densely populated as London.

We've objectively handled this awfully.
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