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What are we to make of this arrangement?
Could Ling go out on loan? (FFS, OMAB, why did you say that!?)
Could Ling go out on loan? (FFS, OMAB, why did you say that!?)
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Re: Hartford Athletic
"Content creation and challenge series activations between players, coaches, and fans"
Look, I'm not too shabby at this English language thing, but although I recognise the words, that means nothing to me.
Look, I'm not too shabby at this English language thing, but although I recognise the words, that means nothing to me.
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Re: Hartford Athletic
Can’t get enough of this if I’m honest
The supporters for Hartford Athletic are split between five groups based on their geographical location within the state of Connecticut:
The 19th Regiment - The first supporters group founded in early 2019 shortly after the announcement of the club. Today, it represents supporters based out of the Greater Hartford area and Northern Connecticut.
Mad Hat Massive - Independent supporters group representing members from Fairfield and Litchfield counties, with their home pub hosting the official supporters away days watch parties at TK's American Cafe in Danbury where the Jell-O Shot tradition began. Members of the Independent Supporters’ Council.
The Boonies - Members of the Mad Hat Massive in the greater Torrington area.
Elm City Casuals - Independent supporters based out of the Greater New Haven area. They’re independent. They like pizza and riding trains. Members of the Independent Supporters’ Council.
East Side Rising - Supporters group founded in 2020 to represent Eastern Connecticut, nicknamed "A Family of Fans."
Raza Brava - Latino-centric supporters group representing the greater Hartford area.
Each group is separately managed but stand and chant together on the east end of Dillon Stadium for home matches.
Among the notable chants used is the "Brass Bonanza," a melody sung by the supporters groups after scoring a goal, which was also used for the former NHL team in the city, the Hartford Whalers, for the same circumstances. The groups also use Bob Marley's classic "Three Little Birds" for the beginning of matches and when the opposing team scores a goal. [9]
The supporters for Hartford Athletic are split between five groups based on their geographical location within the state of Connecticut:
The 19th Regiment - The first supporters group founded in early 2019 shortly after the announcement of the club. Today, it represents supporters based out of the Greater Hartford area and Northern Connecticut.
Mad Hat Massive - Independent supporters group representing members from Fairfield and Litchfield counties, with their home pub hosting the official supporters away days watch parties at TK's American Cafe in Danbury where the Jell-O Shot tradition began. Members of the Independent Supporters’ Council.
The Boonies - Members of the Mad Hat Massive in the greater Torrington area.
Elm City Casuals - Independent supporters based out of the Greater New Haven area. They’re independent. They like pizza and riding trains. Members of the Independent Supporters’ Council.
East Side Rising - Supporters group founded in 2020 to represent Eastern Connecticut, nicknamed "A Family of Fans."
Raza Brava - Latino-centric supporters group representing the greater Hartford area.
Each group is separately managed but stand and chant together on the east end of Dillon Stadium for home matches.
Among the notable chants used is the "Brass Bonanza," a melody sung by the supporters groups after scoring a goal, which was also used for the former NHL team in the city, the Hartford Whalers, for the same circumstances. The groups also use Bob Marley's classic "Three Little Birds" for the beginning of matches and when the opposing team scores a goal. [9]
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Re: Hartford Athletic
Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:12 pm Can’t get enough of this if I’m honest
The supporters for Hartford Athletic are split between five groups based on their geographical location within the state of Connecticut:
The 19th Regiment - The first supporters group founded in early 2019 shortly after the announcement of the club. Today, it represents supporters based out of the Greater Hartford area and Northern Connecticut.
Mad Hat Massive - Independent supporters group representing members from Fairfield and Litchfield counties, with their home pub hosting the official supporters away days watch parties at TK's American Cafe in Danbury where the Jell-O Shot tradition began. Members of the Independent Supporters’ Council.
The Boonies - Members of the Mad Hat Massive in the greater Torrington area.
Elm City Casuals - Independent supporters based out of the Greater New Haven area. They’re independent. They like pizza and riding trains. Members of the Independent Supporters’ Council.
East Side Rising - Supporters group founded in 2020 to represent Eastern Connecticut, nicknamed "A Family of Fans."
Raza Brava - Latino-centric supporters group representing the greater Hartford area.
Each group is separately managed but stand and chant together on the east end of Dillon Stadium for home matches.
Among the notable chants used is the "Brass Bonanza," a melody sung by the supporters groups after scoring a goal, which was also used for the former NHL team in the city, the Hartford Whalers, for the same circumstances. The groups also use Bob Marley's classic "Three Little Birds" for the beginning of matches and when the opposing team scores a goal. [9]
Funny cos on the Hartford Athletic message-board, some alias called Wapple Umble has just posted:
Can’t get enough of this if I’m honest
The supporters for Leyton Orient are split between five groups based on their geographical location within the state of UK:
The 1974 Regiment - The oldest supporters group founded in early May 1974 shortly after Ray Graydon scored a penalty for Aston Villa that agonisingly meant Orient would not be promoted to the Premiership. Today, it represents grouchy supporters based out of their garden sheds who fondly remember better times in Britain and also better times at Brisbane Road when every season the O’s used to go toe-to-toe with the likes of Blackburn Rovers, Chelsea and Luton in the original Championship, even though most of those games ended 0-0 or 1-0 to the opposition.
Mad Dog Massive - Independent supporters group representing members from O’s fans from the late 1990s who saw their team go all the way to Wembley in the play-off finals under the supervision of Tommy “Fetch ‘em in” Taylor. Mainly based in Essex and Hertfordshire counties, with their home pub hosting the official supporters away days watch parties at the Royal Cafe Cafe in Leyton where the Jell-O Shot tradition began. Members of the Independent Supporters’ Council and LOFT.
The Boardies - Members and aliases of the Mad Dog Massive in the greater Internet area. Mostly a bunch of keyboard warriors who think it is OK to slur each other online but would never say it to each other’s faces in real life. Several members often flounce off to support other lower league teams at a moment’s notice or draw childish pictures under the guise of Keef.
City Casuals - Independent supporters based out of the Greater London area. They’re independent. They like wine bars, riding trains and freebies. Often frequent Brisbane Road of a Tuesday night when the Square Mile shuts up shop for the evening, in search of entertainment at a cheaper price than Tottenham, Arsenal or Chelsea.
East Side Rising - Supporters group founded in 2020 to represent Millennials who can’t stand staying at home during Covid lockdowns, nicknamed "A Snowflake of Fans." They are into illegal raves, Tik Tok and Fortnite, but hate social distancing, gammons and being told what to do by social distancing gammons. They are always looking for a bust-up and can’t wait for fans to be let back into stadiums so they can stream every second of their sad lives out to their buddies on Insta.
Bazza Bravo - eccentric supporters group representing the greater Hearn area whose mantra proudly states that “Barry saved the club”. However, they casually refuse to debate who he then went on to sell the club to…
Each group is separately managed but stand and chant together in the East Stand of Breyer Group Stadium for home matches.
Among the notable chants used are “Rockin’ All of the World”, “Oh, East London” and “You’re so loud you sound like Aldershot” - a melody sung by the supporters groups after working out that the opposition’s fans are as quiet as a church mouse. The groups also use Herb Alpert’s classic "Tijuana Taxi" for the beginning of matches.
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Re: Hartford Athletic
You forgot ,MalvoliO wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:06 amApple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:12 pm Can’t get enough of this if I’m honest
The supporters for Hartford Athletic are split between five groups based on their geographical location within the state of Connecticut:
The 19th Regiment - The first supporters group founded in early 2019 shortly after the announcement of the club. Today, it represents supporters based out of the Greater Hartford area and Northern Connecticut.
Mad Hat Massive - Independent supporters group representing members from Fairfield and Litchfield counties, with their home pub hosting the official supporters away days watch parties at TK's American Cafe in Danbury where the Jell-O Shot tradition began. Members of the Independent Supporters’ Council.
The Boonies - Members of the Mad Hat Massive in the greater Torrington area.
Elm City Casuals - Independent supporters based out of the Greater New Haven area. They’re independent. They like pizza and riding trains. Members of the Independent Supporters’ Council.
East Side Rising - Supporters group founded in 2020 to represent Eastern Connecticut, nicknamed "A Family of Fans."
Raza Brava - Latino-centric supporters group representing the greater Hartford area.
Each group is separately managed but stand and chant together on the east end of Dillon Stadium for home matches.
Among the notable chants used is the "Brass Bonanza," a melody sung by the supporters groups after scoring a goal, which was also used for the former NHL team in the city, the Hartford Whalers, for the same circumstances. The groups also use Bob Marley's classic "Three Little Birds" for the beginning of matches and when the opposing team scores a goal. [9]
Funny cos on the Hartford Athletic message-board, some alias called Wapple Umble has just posted:
Can’t get enough of this if I’m honest
The supporters for Leyton Orient are split between five groups based on their geographical location within the state of UK:
The 1974 Regiment - The oldest supporters group founded in early May 1974 shortly after Ray Graydon scored a penalty for Aston Villa that agonisingly meant Orient would not be promoted to the Premiership. Today, it represents grouchy supporters based out of their garden sheds who fondly remember better times in Britain and also better times at Brisbane Road when every season the O’s used to go toe-to-toe with the likes of Blackburn Rovers, Chelsea and Luton in the original Championship, even though most of those games ended 0-0 or 1-0 to the opposition.
Mad Dog Massive - Independent supporters group representing members from O’s fans from the late 1990s who saw their team go all the way to Wembley in the play-off finals under the supervision of Tommy “Fetch ‘em in” Taylor. Mainly based in Essex and Hertfordshire counties, with their home pub hosting the official supporters away days watch parties at the Royal Cafe Cafe in Leyton where the Jell-O Shot tradition began. Members of the Independent Supporters’ Council and LOFT.
The Boardies - Members and aliases of the Mad Dog Massive in the greater Internet area. Mostly a bunch of keyboard warriors who think it is OK to slur each other online but would never say it to each other’s faces in real life. Several members often flounce off to support other lower league teams at a moment’s notice or draw childish pictures under the guise of Keef.
City Casuals - Independent supporters based out of the Greater London area. They’re independent. They like wine bars, riding trains and freebies. Often frequent Brisbane Road of a Tuesday night when the Square Mile shuts up shop for the evening, in search of entertainment at a cheaper price than Tottenham, Arsenal or Chelsea.
East Side Rising - Supporters group founded in 2020 to represent Millennials who can’t stand staying at home during Covid lockdowns, nicknamed "A Snowflake of Fans." They are into illegal raves, Tik Tok and Fortnite, but hate social distancing, gammons and being told what to do by social distancing gammons. They are always looking for a bust-up and can’t wait for fans to be let back into stadiums so they can stream every second of their sad lives out to their buddies on Insta.
Bazza Bravo - eccentric supporters group representing the greater Hearn area whose mantra proudly states that “Barry saved the club”. However, they casually refuse to debate who he then went on to sell the club to…
Each group is separately managed but stand and chant together in the East Stand of Breyer Group Stadium for home matches.
Among the notable chants used are “Rockin’ All of the World”, “Oh, East London” and “You’re so loud you sound like Aldershot” - a melody sung by the supporters groups after working out that the opposition’s fans are as quiet as a church mouse. The groups also use Herb Alpert’s classic "Tijuana Taxi" for the beginning of matches.
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Re: Hartford Athletic
You forgot ,MalvoliO wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:06 amApple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:12 pm Can’t get enough of this if I’m honest
The supporters for Hartford Athletic are split between five groups based on their geographical location within the state of Connecticut:
The 19th Regiment - The first supporters group founded in early 2019 shortly after the announcement of the club. Today, it represents supporters based out of the Greater Hartford area and Northern Connecticut.
Mad Hat Massive - Independent supporters group representing members from Fairfield and Litchfield counties, with their home pub hosting the official supporters away days watch parties at TK's American Cafe in Danbury where the Jell-O Shot tradition began. Members of the Independent Supporters’ Council.
The Boonies - Members of the Mad Hat Massive in the greater Torrington area.
Elm City Casuals - Independent supporters based out of the Greater New Haven area. They’re independent. They like pizza and riding trains. Members of the Independent Supporters’ Council.
East Side Rising - Supporters group founded in 2020 to represent Eastern Connecticut, nicknamed "A Family of Fans."
Raza Brava - Latino-centric supporters group representing the greater Hartford area.
Each group is separately managed but stand and chant together on the east end of Dillon Stadium for home matches.
Among the notable chants used is the "Brass Bonanza," a melody sung by the supporters groups after scoring a goal, which was also used for the former NHL team in the city, the Hartford Whalers, for the same circumstances. The groups also use Bob Marley's classic "Three Little Birds" for the beginning of matches and when the opposing team scores a goal. [9]
Funny cos on the Hartford Athletic message-board, some alias called Wapple Umble has just posted:
Can’t get enough of this if I’m honest
The supporters for Leyton Orient are split between five groups based on their geographical location within the state of UK:
The 1974 Regiment - The oldest supporters group founded in early May 1974 shortly after Ray Graydon scored a penalty for Aston Villa that agonisingly meant Orient would not be promoted to the Premiership. Today, it represents grouchy supporters based out of their garden sheds who fondly remember better times in Britain and also better times at Brisbane Road when every season the O’s used to go toe-to-toe with the likes of Blackburn Rovers, Chelsea and Luton in the original Championship, even though most of those games ended 0-0 or 1-0 to the opposition.
Mad Dog Massive - Independent supporters group representing members from O’s fans from the late 1990s who saw their team go all the way to Wembley in the play-off finals under the supervision of Tommy “Fetch ‘em in” Taylor. Mainly based in Essex and Hertfordshire counties, with their home pub hosting the official supporters away days watch parties at the Royal Cafe Cafe in Leyton where the Jell-O Shot tradition began. Members of the Independent Supporters’ Council and LOFT.
The Boardies - Members and aliases of the Mad Dog Massive in the greater Internet area. Mostly a bunch of keyboard warriors who think it is OK to slur each other online but would never say it to each other’s faces in real life. Several members often flounce off to support other lower league teams at a moment’s notice or draw childish pictures under the guise of Keef.
City Casuals - Independent supporters based out of the Greater London area. They’re independent. They like wine bars, riding trains and freebies. Often frequent Brisbane Road of a Tuesday night when the Square Mile shuts up shop for the evening, in search of entertainment at a cheaper price than Tottenham, Arsenal or Chelsea.
East Side Rising - Supporters group founded in 2020 to represent Millennials who can’t stand staying at home during Covid lockdowns, nicknamed "A Snowflake of Fans." They are into illegal raves, Tik Tok and Fortnite, but hate social distancing, gammons and being told what to do by social distancing gammons. They are always looking for a bust-up and can’t wait for fans to be let back into stadiums so they can stream every second of their sad lives out to their buddies on Insta.
Bazza Bravo - eccentric supporters group representing the greater Hearn area whose mantra proudly states that “Barry saved the club”. However, they casually refuse to debate who he then went on to sell the club to…
Each group is separately managed but stand and chant together in the East Stand of Breyer Group Stadium for home matches.
Among the notable chants used are “Rockin’ All of the World”, “Oh, East London” and “You’re so loud you sound like Aldershot” - a melody sung by the supporters groups after working out that the opposition’s fans are as quiet as a church mouse. The groups also use Herb Alpert’s classic "Tijuana Taxi" for the beginning of matches.
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Re: Hartford Athletic
Surely the funniest thing about the whole announcement is the assertion:
"Hartford Athletic is thrilled to partner with Leyton Orient, one of the most storied clubs in the world,” said Hartford Athletic Chairman, Bruce Mandell.
Even by the standards of hyperbole attached to football in a pandemic, this is sublime.
With our stories to match Real, Barca, Bayern, Juve, Benfica, Santos, Man Utd...
"Hartford Athletic is thrilled to partner with Leyton Orient, one of the most storied clubs in the world,” said Hartford Athletic Chairman, Bruce Mandell.
Even by the standards of hyperbole attached to football in a pandemic, this is sublime.
With our stories to match Real, Barca, Bayern, Juve, Benfica, Santos, Man Utd...
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Re: Hartford Athletic
Being the only professional team in the state of Connecticut I believe they have ambitions to enter the MLS over time.
Could quite possibly be Travis linking us up well before this happens.
Could quite possibly be Travis linking us up well before this happens.
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Re: Hartford Athletic
Fixed that for you.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:12 pmYou forgot ,MalvoliO wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:06 amApple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:12 pm Can’t get enough of this if I’m honest
The supporters for Hartford Athletic are split between five groups based on their geographical location within the state of Connecticut:
The 19th Regiment - The first supporters group founded in early 2019 shortly after the announcement of the club. Today, it represents supporters based out of the Greater Hartford area and Northern Connecticut.
Mad Hat Massive - Independent supporters group representing members from Fairfield and Litchfield counties, with their home pub hosting the official supporters away days watch parties at TK's American Cafe in Danbury where the Jell-O Shot tradition began. Members of the Independent Supporters’ Council.
The Boonies - Members of the Mad Hat Massive in the greater Torrington area.
Elm City Casuals - Independent supporters based out of the Greater New Haven area. They’re independent. They like pizza and riding trains. Members of the Independent Supporters’ Council.
East Side Rising - Supporters group founded in 2020 to represent Eastern Connecticut, nicknamed "A Family of Fans."
Raza Brava - Latino-centric supporters group representing the greater Hartford area.
Each group is separately managed but stand and chant together on the east end of Dillon Stadium for home matches.
Among the notable chants used is the "Brass Bonanza," a melody sung by the supporters groups after scoring a goal, which was also used for the former NHL team in the city, the Hartford Whalers, for the same circumstances. The groups also use Bob Marley's classic "Three Little Birds" for the beginning of matches and when the opposing team scores a goal. [9]
Funny cos on the Hartford Athletic message-board, some alias called Wapple Umble has just posted:
Can’t get enough of this if I’m honest
The supporters for Leyton Orient are split between five groups based on their geographical location within the state of UK:
The 1974 Regiment - The oldest supporters group founded in early May 1974 shortly after Ray Graydon scored a penalty for Aston Villa that agonisingly meant Orient would not be promoted to the Premiership. Today, it represents grouchy supporters based out of their garden sheds who fondly remember better times in Britain and also better times at Brisbane Road when every season the O’s used to go toe-to-toe with the likes of Blackburn Rovers, Chelsea and Luton in the original Championship, even though most of those games ended 0-0 or 1-0 to the opposition.
Mad Dog Massive - Independent supporters group representing members from O’s fans from the late 1990s who saw their team go all the way to Wembley in the play-off finals under the supervision of Tommy “Fetch ‘em in” Taylor. Mainly based in Essex and Hertfordshire counties, with their home pub hosting the official supporters away days watch parties at the Royal Cafe Cafe in Leyton where the Jell-O Shot tradition began. Members of the Independent Supporters’ Council and LOFT.
The Boardies - Members and aliases of the Mad Dog Massive in the greater Internet area. Mostly a bunch of keyboard warriors who think it is OK to slur each other online but would never say it to each other’s faces in real life. Several members often flounce off to support other lower league teams at a moment’s notice or draw childish pictures under the guise of Keef.
City Casuals - Independent supporters based out of the Greater London area. They’re independent. They like wine bars, riding trains and freebies. Often frequent Brisbane Road of a Tuesday night when the Square Mile shuts up shop for the evening, in search of entertainment at a cheaper price than Tottenham, Arsenal or Chelsea.
East Side Rising - Supporters group founded in 2020 to represent Millennials who can’t stand staying at home during Covid lockdowns, nicknamed "A Snowflake of Fans." They are into illegal raves, Tik Tok and Fortnite, but hate social distancing, gammons and being told what to do by social distancing gammons. They are always looking for a bust-up and can’t wait for fans to be let back into stadiums so they can stream every second of their sad lives out to their buddies on Insta.
Bazza Bravo - eccentric supporters group representing the greater Hearn area whose mantra proudly states that “Barry saved the club”. However, they casually refuse to debate who he then went on to sell the club to…
Each group is separately managed but stand and chant together in the East Stand of Breyer Group Stadium for home matches.
Among the notable chants used are “Rockin’ All of the World”, “Oh, East London” and “You’re so loud you sound like Aldershot” - a melody sung by the supporters groups after working out that the opposition’s fans are as quiet as a church mouse. The groups also use Herb Alpert’s classic "Tijuana Taxi" for the beginning of matches.
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Re: Hartford Athletic
Apart from the blue sky, happiness and animation. Fairly impressive bunch of loons overall.
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Re: Hartford Athletic
Omygawd wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 5:16 pmFixed that for you.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:12 pmYou forgot ,MalvoliO wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:06 am
Funny cos on the Hartford Athletic message-board, some alias called Wapple Umble has just posted:
Can’t get enough of this if I’m honest
The supporters for Leyton Orient are split between five groups based on their geographical location within the state of UK:
The 1974 Regiment - The oldest supporters group founded in early May 1974 shortly after Ray Graydon scored a penalty for Aston Villa that agonisingly meant Orient would not be promoted to the Premiership. Today, it represents grouchy supporters based out of their garden sheds who fondly remember better times in Britain and also better times at Brisbane Road when every season the O’s used to go toe-to-toe with the likes of Blackburn Rovers, Chelsea and Luton in the original Championship, even though most of those games ended 0-0 or 1-0 to the opposition.
Mad Dog Massive - Independent supporters group representing members from O’s fans from the late 1990s who saw their team go all the way to Wembley in the play-off finals under the supervision of Tommy “Fetch ‘em in” Taylor. Mainly based in Essex and Hertfordshire counties, with their home pub hosting the official supporters away days watch parties at the Royal Cafe Cafe in Leyton where the Jell-O Shot tradition began. Members of the Independent Supporters’ Council and LOFT.
The Boardies - Members and aliases of the Mad Dog Massive in the greater Internet area. Mostly a bunch of keyboard warriors who think it is OK to slur each other online but would never say it to each other’s faces in real life. Several members often flounce off to support other lower league teams at a moment’s notice or draw childish pictures under the guise of Keef.
City Casuals - Independent supporters based out of the Greater London area. They’re independent. They like wine bars, riding trains and freebies. Often frequent Brisbane Road of a Tuesday night when the Square Mile shuts up shop for the evening, in search of entertainment at a cheaper price than Tottenham, Arsenal or Chelsea.
East Side Rising - Supporters group founded in 2020 to represent Millennials who can’t stand staying at home during Covid lockdowns, nicknamed "A Snowflake of Fans." They are into illegal raves, Tik Tok and Fortnite, but hate social distancing, gammons and being told what to do by social distancing gammons. They are always looking for a bust-up and can’t wait for fans to be let back into stadiums so they can stream every second of their sad lives out to their buddies on Insta.
Bazza Bravo - eccentric supporters group representing the greater Hearn area whose mantra proudly states that “Barry saved the club”. However, they casually refuse to debate who he then went on to sell the club to…
Each group is separately managed but stand and chant together in the East Stand of Breyer Group Stadium for home matches.
Among the notable chants used are “Rockin’ All of the World”, “Oh, East London” and “You’re so loud you sound like Aldershot” - a melody sung by the supporters groups after working out that the opposition’s fans are as quiet as a church mouse. The groups also use Herb Alpert’s classic "Tijuana Taxi" for the beginning of matches.
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Re: Hartford Athletic
Also in Connecticut are mansfield, Manchester, bolton, windsor, ware, Northampton, sunderland, bristol, Coventry as well as wales and scotland so we'll feel at home if we visit
Re: Hartford Athletic
Great to see us link up with another another professional team and do something different. It's also good to be the role model team in the relationship, the one big problem with the USL is it lacks authentic support.