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Re: Coronavirus
Here is an article which says you should take the vaccine, but you must be prepared for the initial side effects and reactions to the jab. Having read it, surely the producers should be advising this is what might happen....otherwise they will run the risk of people saying I’m not having that after friends experience xyz.
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/370/6520/1022
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/370/6520/1022
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Re: Coronavirus
Look who has his fingers in our regulatory pie.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/mhra ... ganisation
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/mhra ... ganisation
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Re: Coronavirus
Do you ever read any of the little leaflets inside aThor wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:52 am Here is an article which says you should take the vaccine, but you must be prepared for the initial side effects and reactions to the jab. Having read it, surely the producers should be advising this is what might happen....otherwise they will run the risk of people saying I’m not having that after friends experience xyz.
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/370/6520/1022
box of tablets Thory ?
You should, they tell you all about possible.side effects &
what you should do just in case they last 24 hours or longer .
If you buy a box of aspirin it tells you it
Can cause bleeding in the stomach to Anaphylaxis .
https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-1598 ... ideeffects
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Interested to see the government’s approach to this and what leaflet or information will be given before getting the vaccinetuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:35 amDo you ever read any of the little leaflets inside aThor wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:52 am Here is an article which says you should take the vaccine, but you must be prepared for the initial side effects and reactions to the jab. Having read it, surely the producers should be advising this is what might happen....otherwise they will run the risk of people saying I’m not having that after friends experience xyz.
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/370/6520/1022
box of tablets Thory ?
You should, they tell you all about possible.side effects &
what you should do just in case they last 24 hours or longer .
If you buy a box of aspirin it tells you it
Can cause bleeding in the stomach to Anaphylaxis .
https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-1598 ... ideeffects
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Re: Coronavirus
Won’t be a long one.Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:00 amInterested to see the government’s approach to this and what leaflet or information will be given before getting the vaccinetuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:35 amDo you ever read any of the little leaflets inside aThor wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:52 am Here is an article which says you should take the vaccine, but you must be prepared for the initial side effects and reactions to the jab. Having read it, surely the producers should be advising this is what might happen....otherwise they will run the risk of people saying I’m not having that after friends experience xyz.
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/370/6520/1022
box of tablets Thory ?
You should, they tell you all about possible.side effects &
what you should do just in case they last 24 hours or longer .
If you buy a box of aspirin it tells you it
Can cause bleeding in the stomach to Anaphylaxis .
https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-1598 ... ideeffects
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Surely.that will be down to pfizer oxford & the other lotApple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:00 amInterested to see the government’s approach to this and what leaflet or information will be given before getting the vaccinetuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:35 amDo you ever read any of the little leaflets inside aThor wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:52 am Here is an article which says you should take the vaccine, but you must be prepared for the initial side effects and reactions to the jab. Having read it, surely the producers should be advising this is what might happen....otherwise they will run the risk of people saying I’m not having that after friends experience xyz.
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/370/6520/1022
box of tablets Thory ?
You should, they tell you all about possible.side effects &
what you should do just in case they last 24 hours or longer .
If you buy a box of aspirin it tells you it
Can cause bleeding in the stomach to Anaphylaxis .
https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-1598 ... ideeffects
Thats assuming his reacrion wasnt a reaction at all
If he had the placebo , he could of been stung by a wasp
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Maybe. But this is a vaccine being rolled out by the government. I'd assume once they've bought it, its on them to tell people information about it before they take it.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:40 amSurely.that will be down to pfizer oxford & the other lotApple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:00 amInterested to see the government’s approach to this and what leaflet or information will be given before getting the vaccinetuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:35 am
Do you ever read any of the little leaflets inside a
box of tablets Thory ?
You should, they tell you all about possible.side effects &
what you should do just in case they last 24 hours or longer .
If you buy a box of aspirin it tells you it
Can cause bleeding in the stomach to Anaphylaxis .
https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-1598 ... ideeffects
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Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:42 amMaybe. But this is a vaccine being rolled out by the government. I'd assume once they've bought it, its on them to tell people information about it before they take it.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:40 amSurely.that will be down to pfizer oxford & the other lotApple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:00 am
Interested to see the government’s approach to this and what leaflet or information will be given before getting the vaccine
Thats assuming his reacrion wasnt a reaction at all
If he had the placebo , he could of just been stung by a wasp
Re: Coronavirus
People will get side effects, which should disappear quickly.
Then there will be adverse drug reactions (ADRs) which are monitored by health agencies.
And - given the demographic to which the vaccine is given - 100s of people will die within a short time (days/weeks/months) of getting the vaccine.
The challenge is to weed out what is attributed to the vaccine vs what is not.
I expect the press will have a field day with it and it will be a different thing to scaremonger about.
Then there will be adverse drug reactions (ADRs) which are monitored by health agencies.
And - given the demographic to which the vaccine is given - 100s of people will die within a short time (days/weeks/months) of getting the vaccine.
The challenge is to weed out what is attributed to the vaccine vs what is not.
I expect the press will have a field day with it and it will be a different thing to scaremonger about.
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If things go wrong, the government will lie, because they are champions of that.
We , will never know exactly went wrong, and they will take no responsibility for it.....science will be blamed
We , will never know exactly went wrong, and they will take no responsibility for it.....science will be blamed
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I have had the flu jab every year for the last 20 years, doctors often tell you that there is no reaction to it but I would say that in 15 of those years I have had something ranging from extended soreness in the arm to flu like symptoms within a week of the jab. Most of the medication I take has some side effect either on starting the treatment or some like statins build up and can give muscle pain and fatigue. Without the vaccines and medication I have been prescribed over the last 20 years I doubt if I would still be here So on an individual basis the trade off of a slight reaction against the consequence of not taking these drugs is well worth it.
That said if I were younger and healthy I probably wouldn't take the Covid vaccine as the odds of getting very ill are no worse than lots of other thing for those in good health.
That said if I were younger and healthy I probably wouldn't take the Covid vaccine as the odds of getting very ill are no worse than lots of other thing for those in good health.
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That's my worry. The sheer volume of people who'll be taking it almost simultaneously means that a)totally unrelated clusters of 'symptoms' will be jumped upon by the press and b) a tiny number of people will have adverse reactions. A significant number of people will then say 'well I'm not taking it' as the explanation of the risks (ie there is a tiny residual one but almost infinitely less than catching the actual disease, which will likely happen if not enough people get the vaccine and you yourself don't get the vaccine) has been so poorly communicated.faldO wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 11:40 am People will get side effects, which should disappear quickly.
Then there will be adverse drug reactions (ADRs) which are monitored by health agencies.
And - given the demographic to which the vaccine is given - 100s of people will die within a short time (days/weeks/months) of getting the vaccine.
The challenge is to weed out what is attributed to the vaccine vs what is not.
I expect the press will have a field day with it and it will be a different thing to scaremonger about.
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Re: Coronavirus
The United satets passwd 250,000 deaths reported
on the 18th november 2020
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... oronavirus
Today 282,000 have died .
Nearly half of the U.K's total in less than a month .
Shocking figures .
on the 18th november 2020
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... oronavirus
Today 282,000 have died .
Nearly half of the U.K's total in less than a month .
Shocking figures .
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Germany & Russia hit new highs
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/55273817
Still Thor.& Cav wont be taking the Vaccine so
We'll all be alright !
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/55273817
Still Thor.& Cav wont be taking the Vaccine so
We'll all be alright !
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Not our regulatory pie.Thor wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:54 am Look who has his fingers in our regulatory pie.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/mhra ... ganisation
Although after brexit we could certainly be a low to middle income country
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Results back today. My daughter has tested positive. She has always been mega careful. OTT in fact. But as a teacher the risks are there. As a consequence her, her husband and two children now need to isolate. For my granddaughter who is an apprentice in a nursery add two weeks loss of money. Though that is secondary to their well-being.
No doubt thanks to those selfish arseholes who don’t take the this virus seriously taking an “I’m all right Jack” approach. So for the next two weeks we all wait in the hope that there are no serious or long lasting implications.
So my message to all who don’t take this seriously. F off you selfish bastards.
No doubt thanks to those selfish arseholes who don’t take the this virus seriously taking an “I’m all right Jack” approach. So for the next two weeks we all wait in the hope that there are no serious or long lasting implications.
So my message to all who don’t take this seriously. F off you selfish bastards.
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Clearly your daughter hasn’t been careful enough. But I wish her well and am sure she’ll be absolutely fine, as nearly everyone of her age who catches it will be.
Why isn’t your granddaughter still being paid by her employer?
Why isn’t your granddaughter still being paid by her employer?
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This is the wrong argument.Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:51 pmThat's my worry. The sheer volume of people who'll be taking it almost simultaneously means that a)totally unrelated clusters of 'symptoms' will be jumped upon by the press and b) a tiny number of people will have adverse reactions. A significant number of people will then say 'well I'm not taking it' as the explanation of the risks (ie there is a tiny residual one but almost infinitely less than catching the actual disease, which will likely happen if not enough people get the vaccine and you yourself don't get the vaccine) has been so poorly communicated.faldO wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 11:40 am People will get side effects, which should disappear quickly.
Then there will be adverse drug reactions (ADRs) which are monitored by health agencies.
And - given the demographic to which the vaccine is given - 100s of people will die within a short time (days/weeks/months) of getting the vaccine.
The challenge is to weed out what is attributed to the vaccine vs what is not.
I expect the press will have a field day with it and it will be a different thing to scaremonger about.
You’re not being vaccinated to stop you getting ill with it, it’s (primarily) to stop you spreading it. Maybe people would be more likely to take it up if that was made clearer?
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https://www.acas.org.uk/coronavirus/sel ... d-sick-payRonnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:03 am Clearly your daughter hasn’t been careful enough. But I wish her well and am sure she’ll be absolutely fine, as nearly everyone of her age who catches it will be.
Why isn’t your granddaughter still being paid by her employer?
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There is NO evidence that the vaccine will stop you being infectious.Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:05 amThis is the wrong argument.Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:51 pmThat's my worry. The sheer volume of people who'll be taking it almost simultaneously means that a)totally unrelated clusters of 'symptoms' will be jumped upon by the press and b) a tiny number of people will have adverse reactions. A significant number of people will then say 'well I'm not taking it' as the explanation of the risks (ie there is a tiny residual one but almost infinitely less than catching the actual disease, which will likely happen if not enough people get the vaccine and you yourself don't get the vaccine) has been so poorly communicated.faldO wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 11:40 am People will get side effects, which should disappear quickly.
Then there will be adverse drug reactions (ADRs) which are monitored by health agencies.
And - given the demographic to which the vaccine is given - 100s of people will die within a short time (days/weeks/months) of getting the vaccine.
The challenge is to weed out what is attributed to the vaccine vs what is not.
I expect the press will have a field day with it and it will be a different thing to scaremonger about.
You’re not being vaccinated to stop you getting ill with it, it’s (primarily) to stop you spreading it. Maybe people would be more likely to take it up if that was made clearer?
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Still wrong wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:06 amThere is NO evidence that the vaccine will stop you being infectious.Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:05 amThis is the wrong argument.Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:51 pm
That's my worry. The sheer volume of people who'll be taking it almost simultaneously means that a)totally unrelated clusters of 'symptoms' will be jumped upon by the press and b) a tiny number of people will have adverse reactions. A significant number of people will then say 'well I'm not taking it' as the explanation of the risks (ie there is a tiny residual one but almost infinitely less than catching the actual disease, which will likely happen if not enough people get the vaccine and you yourself don't get the vaccine) has been so poorly communicated.
You’re not being vaccinated to stop you getting ill with it, it’s (primarily) to stop you spreading it. Maybe people would be more likely to take it up if that was made clearer?