tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:35 pmThats not the point you made .J R Hartley wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:47 amtuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 2:49 am
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Your point is JR ?
Both Leicester and Liverpool have the luxury of other forwards, we however at this stage do not. Playing Danny in a dead rubber game is stupid to say the least
The point you made was dropping a too svorer .
Something Leicester & Liverpool both dd !!
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My original post was a question, Did we ever drop Macca I thought he played in every game since he joined us, I can't even remember him being injured either
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Total nonsense.
Tennis players play day after day, sometimes 5 setters.
To say a professional footballer can’t play two games a week is daft.
Mind you this resting hasn’t worked has it?
What’s that now? 5 defeats?
Tennis players play day after day, sometimes 5 setters.
To say a professional footballer can’t play two games a week is daft.
Mind you this resting hasn’t worked has it?
What’s that now? 5 defeats?
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Tennis players play day after day? Or do they have breaks in between matches and big breaks in between tournaments?
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Football is a team game and nowhere as intense as Tennis.Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:08 pmTennis players play day after day? Or do they have breaks in between matches and big breaks in between tournaments?
To say the modern day footballer can’t perform 2 games a week after a 5 month break is too ridiculous.
Blimey the ball is out of play for a good chunk of time or played at a walking pace passing it from side to side.
Well we do anyway.
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To win Wimbledon you have to play 6 matches in 14 days.Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:08 pmTennis players play day after day? Or do they have breaks in between matches and big breaks in between tournaments?
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4 Grand Slams A year plus several other Tournaments. Davis cup etc.Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:26 pm How many times a year do Wimbledon or similar tournaments take place mate?
And a heck of a lot of travelling and intense training, and I don’t mean 3 hours of standing around listening to coaches feeding the players rubbish about the opposition.
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No question mark JR .J R Hartley wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:39 am Did we ever drop Macauly Bonn for a game, thought he played non stop for us from the word go never missed a match.
Are you sure it was a question like you have just claimed ?
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You get 16 tennis courts into 1 football pitchCavalier wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:21 pmTo win Wimbledon you have to play 6 matches in 14 days.Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:08 pmTennis players play day after day? Or do they have breaks in between matches and big breaks in between tournaments?
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Bollox.Cavalier wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:18 pmFootball is a team game and nowhere as intense as Tennis.Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:08 pmTennis players play day after day? Or do they have breaks in between matches and big breaks in between tournaments?
To say the modern day footballer can’t perform 2 games a week after a 5 month break is too ridiculous.
Blimey the ball is out of play for a good chunk of time or played at a walking pace passing it from side to side.
Well we do anyway.
Tennis is sh*t, although they do is throw the ball in the air, whack it as hard as they can invariably without it being returned, then wait a couple of minutes and do it again. Anyone can do that, even footballers from the 60s and 70s.
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Definitely a question that's why it was put like that for someone to confirm or deny for me, which funnily enough no one has done, over to you.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:41 pmNo question mark JR .J R Hartley wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:39 am Did we ever drop Macauly Bonn for a game, thought he played non stop for us from the word go never missed a match.
Are you sure it was a question like you have just claimed ?
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Mr Bonne played about 46 games and scored 23 goals in his last season for us. It may shock you to learn that he only scored 3 in his last 15 games. Perhaps he could have done with a rest!
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Thanks for that, what was his total games for us did he miss a game at all. Last bit didn't surprised me, I think he was making sure he didn't injure himself before his big movePrestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:00 pm Mr Bonne played about 46 games and scored 23 goals in his last season for us. It may shock you to learn that he only scored 3 in his last 15 games. Perhaps he could have done with a rest!
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Did you see how he won the penalty against sutton ?J R Hartley wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:06 pmThanks for that, what was his total games for us did he miss a game at all. Last bit didn't surprised me, I think he was making sure he didn't injure himself before his big movePrestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:00 pm Mr Bonne played about 46 games and scored 23 goals in his last season for us. It may shock you to learn that he only scored 3 in his last 15 games. Perhaps he could have done with a rest!
Trying not to injure himself ?
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About 90 gamesJ R Hartley wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:06 pmThanks for that, what was his total games for us did he miss a game at all. Last bit didn't surprised me, I think he was making sure he didn't injure himself before his big movePrestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:00 pm Mr Bonne played about 46 games and scored 23 goals in his last season for us. It may shock you to learn that he only scored 3 in his last 15 games. Perhaps he could have done with a rest!
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No one is saying they can't. The obviously are. It's a case of if they SHOULD.
They could play 365 times a year, I'm sure. But the quality of their performance would be rubbish, obviously. Which is why rest, to be at optimum performance, is so important.
Baffling how much people struggle with this concept.
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So the quality of performance is good now with all this chopping and changing ?PoliticOs wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:57 pmNo one is saying they can't. The obviously are. It's a case of if they SHOULD.
They could play 365 times a year, I'm sure. But the quality of their performance would be rubbish, obviously. Which is why rest, to be at optimum performance, is so important.
Baffling how much people struggle with this concept.
I think results tell a different story.
I doubt any other team are making totally ridiculous unnecessary changes in formation and personnel.
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It might have been a genuine viewpoint at the start. - I doubt it - but it’s now just tiresome wummery.PoliticOs wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:57 pmNo one is saying they can't. The obviously are. It's a case of if they SHOULD.
They could play 365 times a year, I'm sure. But the quality of their performance would be rubbish, obviously. Which is why rest, to be at optimum performance, is so important.
Baffling how much people struggle with this concept.
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Yeah, no other team is making big changes to accommodate for the scheduling.Cavalier wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:05 pmSo the quality of performance is good now with all this chopping and changing ?PoliticOs wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:57 pmNo one is saying they can't. The obviously are. It's a case of if they SHOULD.
They could play 365 times a year, I'm sure. But the quality of their performance would be rubbish, obviously. Which is why rest, to be at optimum performance, is so important.
Baffling how much people struggle with this concept.
I think results tell a different story.
I doubt any other team are making totally ridiculous unnecessary changes in formation and personnel.
It must have been murder explaining simple concepts to you at Labour CLP meetings for all those years.
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But Tennis is a game where they get to sit down after every 2 games ,Cavalier wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:18 pmFootball is a team game and nowhere as intense as Tennis.
To say the modern day footballer can’t perform 2 games a week after a 5 month break is too ridiculous.
Blimey the ball is out of play for a good chunk of time or played at a walking pace passing it from side to side.
Well we do anyway.
They can re-fuel with drinks & food , they are playing on a piece of grass
1/16th the size of a football pitch , they stop for a mini break between every point .
Ah these mollycoddled tennis players.
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Could you name the other teams who have dropped their top scorer and changed formations every game and also NEVER play the same team twice in succession.PoliticOs wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:16 pmYeah, no other team is making big changes to accommodate for the scheduling.Cavalier wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:05 pmSo the quality of performance is good now with all this chopping and changing ?PoliticOs wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:57 pm
No one is saying they can't. The obviously are. It's a case of if they SHOULD.
They could play 365 times a year, I'm sure. But the quality of their performance would be rubbish, obviously. Which is why rest, to be at optimum performance, is so important.
Baffling how much people struggle with this concept.
I think results tell a different story.
I doubt any other team are making totally ridiculous unnecessary changes in formation and personnel.
It must have been murder explaining simple concepts to you at Labour CLP meetings for all those years.
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Yes was there saw it all, how much did we pay that keeper, talk about rush of blood to the head bet Macca couldn't believe his luck, never doubted Macca wouldn't score. Think everyone there realised when that went in we was gonna go up.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:12 pmDid you see how he won the penalty against sutton ?J R Hartley wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:06 pmThanks for that, what was his total games for us did he miss a game at all. Last bit didn't surprised me, I think he was making sure he didn't injure himself before his big movePrestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:00 pm Mr Bonne played about 46 games and scored 23 goals in his last season for us. It may shock you to learn that he only scored 3 in his last 15 games. Perhaps he could have done with a rest!
Trying not to injure himself ?
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Let's face it, if he hadn't fiddled and we still lost, you'd still be bitching about him.Cavalier wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:05 pmSo the quality of performance is good now with all this chopping and changing ?PoliticOs wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:57 pmNo one is saying they can't. The obviously are. It's a case of if they SHOULD.
They could play 365 times a year, I'm sure. But the quality of their performance would be rubbish, obviously. Which is why rest, to be at optimum performance, is so important.
Baffling how much people struggle with this concept.
I think results tell a different story.
I doubt any other team are making totally ridiculous unnecessary changes in formation and personnel.
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There are loads, but the Chelsea team of 2003/04 under Ranieri who finished second to the Arsenal invincibles team are a particularly top of mind example of a team that changed their lineups in most of their games. He wasn't known as the Tinkerman for nothingCavalier wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:20 pmCould you name the other teams who have dropped their top scorer and changed formations every game and also NEVER play the same team twice in succession.
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Not at all.Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:40 pmLet's face it, if he hadn't fiddled and we still lost, you'd still be bitching about him.Cavalier wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:05 pmSo the quality of performance is good now with all this chopping and changing ?PoliticOs wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:57 pm
No one is saying they can't. The obviously are. It's a case of if they SHOULD.
They could play 365 times a year, I'm sure. But the quality of their performance would be rubbish, obviously. Which is why rest, to be at optimum performance, is so important.
Baffling how much people struggle with this concept.
I think results tell a different story.
I doubt any other team are making totally ridiculous unnecessary changes in formation and personnel.
I actually think he should be given a fair crack of the whip and build himself into the job, but he continues to make the same mistakes over and over again.
3 at the back, then 4 at the back, then 5. it’s all over the shop.
A manager should not put players in positions they are uncomfortable with, and every good manager has to get people buy into what he is doing. That goes with any industry.
It just looks a mess.
Ross has to be given the full season, but I am beginning to doubt that he will come up to scratch.