need a rest

[tuffers#1]

Germany & Japan both swear by it

Both lost the 2nd world war & yet
Are remarkably further ahead in the
World than here .

Maybe it is time to learn a few things from losing .

https://businessculture.org/western-eur ... n-germany/

http://www.asahi.com/sp/ajw/articles/AJ ... 10001.html

Daft analogy

You think ?

Well well theres a suprise

[Sid Bishop]

It is a silly comparison. To think that todays Leyton orient side would have run rings around the great Leeds United, Liverpool and Manchester United teams of the mid to late 1960s is quite ridiculous. They all had top class skillful players who would have made mincemeat of the current Os side. Lastly, are we to believe that Joe Widdowson would have had been able to contain the fast dribbling skills of George Best......as if !

Fitness wise, they’d have been shot by the end of the first half.

So we were playing with intensity yesterday ?
An old saying that still holds true today, class players LET THE BALL DO THE WORK !

[tuffers#1]

A rolling stone gathers no moss


Is it Cliche day today ?

[Sid Bishop]

A rolling stone gathers no moss


Is it Cliche day today ?

And then ?
Make sure you look after your self mate, your health and well being comes well above these often silly Forum debates !

[tuffers#1]

A rolling stone gathers no moss


Is it Cliche day today ?

And then ?
Make sure you look after your self mate, your health and well being comes well above these often silly Forum debates !

I always do Sid .
You to

[Smendrick Feaselberg]

It is a silly comparison. To think that todays Leyton orient side would have run rings around the great Leeds United, Liverpool and Manchester United teams of the mid to late 1960s is quite ridiculous. They all had top class skillful players who would have made mincemeat of the current Os side. Lastly, are we to believe that Joe Widdowson would have had been able to contain the fast dribbling skills of George Best......as if !

Fitness wise, they’d have been shot by the end of the first half.

So we were playing with intensity yesterday ?
An old saying that still holds true today, class players LET THE BALL DO THE WORK !

That's a nonsense saying in the modern game though. Since you seem to like a saying, how about "hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard"? Working hard in the modern game for two games a week is incredibly demanding and we're only about a quarter of the way through the league season.

[Sid Bishop]

Fitness wise, they’d have been shot by the end of the first half.

So we were playing with intensity yesterday ?
An old saying that still holds true today, class players LET THE BALL DO THE WORK !

That's a nonsense saying in the modern game though. Since you seem to like a saying, how about "hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard"? Working hard in the modern game for two games a week is incredibly demanding and we're only about a quarter of the way through the league season.

And you think they never played 2 games a week years ago ?

[tuffers#1]

So we were playing with intensity yesterday ?
An old saying that still holds true today, class players LET THE BALL DO THE WORK !

That's a nonsense saying in the modern game though. Since you seem to like a saying, how about "hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard"? Working hard in the modern game for two games a week is incredibly demanding and we're only about a quarter of the way through the league season.

And you think they never played 2 games a week years ago ?

Sid you do realise the fitter a person is
The more developed they are in muscles
The more susceptible to injury they becaome.

Over use of the body is as bad as under use ofthe body .

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

So we were playing with intensity yesterday ?
An old saying that still holds true today, class players LET THE BALL DO THE WORK !

That's a nonsense saying in the modern game though. Since you seem to like a saying, how about "hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard"? Working hard in the modern game for two games a week is incredibly demanding and we're only about a quarter of the way through the league season.

And you think they never played 2 games a week years ago ?

Yes, sometimes.

But not for 10 weeks on the trot. And not at the same intensity as games are played today.

It’s just the old dinosaurs that don’t get this, isn’t it?

[Sid Bishop]

That's a nonsense saying in the modern game though. Since you seem to like a saying, how about "hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard"? Working hard in the modern game for two games a week is incredibly demanding and we're only about a quarter of the way through the league season.

And you think they never played 2 games a week years ago ?

Sid you do realise the fitter a person is
The more developed they are in muscles
The more susceptible to injury they becaome.

Over use of the body is as bad as under use ofthe body .

You are talking to a person in myself who before my injury was butchers dog fit, used to play midweek indoor 5 a side football and 11 a side on most Saturdays and Sundays. I played football regularly since around 10 years old and captained my school sides till i left school at 16 years old. When playing adult football we did pre season cross country was part of the training and went training for 3 hours sessions, twice a week after work all taken by an ex army PT instructor and he literally made you sweat blood ! Seems to be an idea on this forum that Pro Footballers of years ago were in the main out of condition, alcoholics and puffed out after making a run down the pitch, what complete nonsense. Just a couple of players I saw play live....John White of Spurs and Scotland was a Mr Perpetual, slim as a biscuit and a celebrated cross-country runner. Cliff Jones, Wales and Spurs left winger, fastest winger by far I have ever seen and could have given Gareth Bale a 5 yard start over a 100 yards sprint. Stanley Mathews, a fitness freak who played till he was 50 years old ''Matthews was a vegetarian and a teetotaler, his first drink of alcohol not coming until he sipped champagne in the locker room to celebrate leading Blackpool to the FA Cup in a match that came to be known as “The Matthews Final” for his brilliant dribbling displays'' Lastly, pitches were awful years ago, really drained your energy and the old dubbin balls were like heading a medicine ball. Greaves and Best would be even more deadly if they were around now.

[Sid Bishop]

That's a nonsense saying in the modern game though. Since you seem to like a saying, how about "hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard"? Working hard in the modern game for two games a week is incredibly demanding and we're only about a quarter of the way through the league season.

And you think they never played 2 games a week years ago ?

Yes, sometimes.

But not for 10 weeks on the trot. And not at the same intensity as games are played today.

It’s just the old dinosaurs that don’t get this, isn’t it?

Were you there playing football around those times or even at the grounds watching the players of the 60s and 70s ?
If not then hard to take your claims seriously against those who were there ( like myself ) and so be able to make any sort of valid comparisons.

[Oiram]

Didn’t forest win the league title with something like 14 players and Liverpool with 13 or something crazy like that?

Yes & players went out on the p*ss all the time
But that doesnt happen now either .

Should we return to that as well ?

Don’t that happen anymore? You sure?

[Fanny]

Nonsensical logic.

My job involves sitting on my arse at a computer in a safe environment. Does this mean that I can’t ever need time off because somewhere in the world somebody is saving lives as an A+E doctor?

nonsensical response
sitting on yer arse doing whatever has fried yer brain
you need a rest

Ok, I’ll try another route to prove how stupid your original post was:

Let’s stick you on the schedule of a professional footballer for two weeks. Let’s see how long you can keep up before you need a rest.

[Wally Banter]

If footballers don’t really need a rest when playing a couple of times a week, shouldn’t we tell the other 91 league clubs who’ve been doing the same thing?

[tuffers#1]

Didn’t forest win the league title with something like 14 players and Liverpool with 13 or something crazy like that?

Yes & players went out on the p*ss all the time
But that doesnt happen now either .

Should we return to that as well ?

Don’t that happen anymore? You sure?

Not in the premier league or the championship .
They might be out 1nce every couple of months with the lads
But not like the REAL DRIINKING DAYS of 2 or 3 times a week .

[tuffers#1]

And you think they never played 2 games a week years ago ?

Sid you do realise the fitter a person is
The more developed they are in muscles
The more susceptible to injury they becaome.

Over use of the body is as bad as under use ofthe body .

You are talking to a person in myself who before my injury was butchers dog fit, used to play midweek indoor 5 a side football and 11 a side on most Saturdays and Sundays. I played football regularly since around 10 years old and captained my school sides till i left school at 16 years old. When playing adult football we did pre season cross country was part of the training and went training for 3 hours sessions, twice a week after work all taken by an ex army PT instructor and he literally made you sweat blood ! Seems to be an idea on this forum that Pro Footballers of years ago were in the main out of condition, alcoholics and puffed out after making a run down the pitch, what complete nonsense. Just a couple of players I saw play live....John White of Spurs and Scotland was a Mr Perpetual, slim as a biscuit and a celebrated cross-country runner. Cliff Jones, Wales and Spurs left winger, fastest winger by far I have ever seen and could have given Gareth Bale a 5 yard start over a 100 yards sprint. Stanley Mathews, a fitness freak who played till he was 50 years old ''Matthews was a vegetarian and a teetotaler, his first drink of alcohol not coming until he sipped champagne in the locker room to celebrate leading Blackpool to the FA Cup in a match that came to be known as “The Matthews Final” for his brilliant dribbling displays'' Lastly, pitches were awful years ago, really drained your energy and the old dubbin balls were like heading a medicine ball. Greaves and Best would be even more deadly if they were around now.

Do you think you were fitter than Justin Edinburgh or Marc Vivien Foe Sid ?

[Smendrick Feaselberg]

And you think they never played 2 games a week years ago ?

Yes, sometimes.

But not for 10 weeks on the trot. And not at the same intensity as games are played today.

It’s just the old dinosaurs that don’t get this, isn’t it?

Were you there playing football around those times or even at the grounds watching the players of the 60s and 70s ?
If not then hard to take your claims seriously against those who were there ( like myself ) and so be able to make any sort of valid comparisons.

That's just more nonsense from you though. You don't need to have been there to know how much the game has changed, the demands nowadays, the fact that drinking and smoking was widespread and accepted back then, that players were nowhere near as fit or muscularly well built and didn't spend as much time working on their fitness as the players of today do. You don't need to have been there to know that the games are faster and more intense now and with tactics such as pressing fitness is so much more important.

Just ask yourself...since the players of today could (if they wanted) devote as much time to drinking as their counterparts could 40-50 years ago then why don't they?

[Still wrong]

Yes, sometimes.

But not for 10 weeks on the trot. And not at the same intensity as games are played today.

It’s just the old dinosaurs that don’t get this, isn’t it?

Were you there playing football around those times or even at the grounds watching the players of the 60s and 70s ?
If not then hard to take your claims seriously against those who were there ( like myself ) and so be able to make any sort of valid comparisons.

That's just more nonsense from you though. You don't need to have been there to know how much the game has changed, the demands nowadays, the fact that drinking and smoking was widespread and accepted back then, that players were nowhere near as fit or muscular well built and didn't spend as much time working on their fitness as the players of today do. You don't need to have been there to know that the games are faster and more intense now and with tactics such as pressing fitness is so much more important.

Just ask yourself...since the players of today could (if they wanted) devote as much time to drinking as their counterparts could 40-50 years ago then why don't they?

Obviously forgetting about Rooneys actions.
And of course the numinous drinking and roasting sessions that has gone on.

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

And you think they never played 2 games a week years ago ?

Sid you do realise the fitter a person is
The more developed they are in muscles
The more susceptible to injury they becaome.

Over use of the body is as bad as under use ofthe body .

You are talking to a person in myself who before my injury was butchers dog fit, used to play midweek indoor 5 a side football and 11 a side on most Saturdays and Sundays. I played football regularly since around 10 years old and captained my school sides till i left school at 16 years old. When playing adult football we did pre season cross country was part of the training and went training for 3 hours sessions, twice a week after work all taken by an ex army PT instructor and he literally made you sweat blood ! Seems to be an idea on this forum that Pro Footballers of years ago were in the main out of condition, alcoholics and puffed out after making a run down the pitch, what complete nonsense. Just a couple of players I saw play live....John White of Spurs and Scotland was a Mr Perpetual, slim as a biscuit and a celebrated cross-country runner. Cliff Jones, Wales and Spurs left winger, fastest winger by far I have ever seen and could have given Gareth Bale a 5 yard start over a 100 yards sprint. Stanley Mathews, a fitness freak who played till he was 50 years old ''Matthews was a vegetarian and a teetotaler, his first drink of alcohol not coming until he sipped champagne in the locker room to celebrate leading Blackpool to the FA Cup in a match that came to be known as “The Matthews Final” for his brilliant dribbling displays'' Lastly, pitches were awful years ago, really drained your energy and the old dubbin balls were like heading a medicine ball. Greaves and Best would be even more deadly if they were around now.

There isn’t a single footballer from the last century who could keep up with Gareth Bale over a 100 yard sprint.

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

If footballers don’t really need a rest when playing a couple of times a week, shouldn’t we tell the other 91 league clubs who’ve been doing the same thing?

1 and a half hours work, twice per week! Lazy bastards should just get on with it.

[PoliticOs]

There isn’t a single footballer from the last century who could keep up with Gareth Bale over a 100 yard sprint.

Obviously you don't remember Stuart Hicks then, Ronnie.

[tuffers#1]

Were you there playing football around those times or even at the grounds watching the players of the 60s and 70s ?
If not then hard to take your claims seriously against those who were there ( like myself ) and so be able to make any sort of valid comparisons.

That's just more nonsense from you though. You don't need to have been there to know how much the game has changed, the demands nowadays, the fact that drinking and smoking was widespread and accepted back then, that players were nowhere near as fit or muscular well built and didn't spend as much time working on their fitness as the players of today do. You don't need to have been there to know that the games are faster and more intense now and with tactics such as pressing fitness is so much more important.

Just ask yourself...since the players of today could (if they wanted) devote as much time to drinking as their counterparts could 40-50 years ago then why don't they?

Obviously forgetting about Rooneys actions.
And of course the numinous drinking and roasting sessions that has gone on.

When exactly was Wayne Rooney lastly of any signifigance in the game ?

[Thor]

Sid you do realise the fitter a person is
The more developed they are in muscles
The more susceptible to injury they becaome.

Over use of the body is as bad as under use ofthe body .

You are talking to a person in myself who before my injury was butchers dog fit, used to play midweek indoor 5 a side football and 11 a side on most Saturdays and Sundays. I played football regularly since around 10 years old and captained my school sides till i left school at 16 years old. When playing adult football we did pre season cross country was part of the training and went training for 3 hours sessions, twice a week after work all taken by an ex army PT instructor and he literally made you sweat blood ! Seems to be an idea on this forum that Pro Footballers of years ago were in the main out of condition, alcoholics and puffed out after making a run down the pitch, what complete nonsense. Just a couple of players I saw play live....John White of Spurs and Scotland was a Mr Perpetual, slim as a biscuit and a celebrated cross-country runner. Cliff Jones, Wales and Spurs left winger, fastest winger by far I have ever seen and could have given Gareth Bale a 5 yard start over a 100 yards sprint. Stanley Mathews, a fitness freak who played till he was 50 years old ''Matthews was a vegetarian and a teetotaler, his first drink of alcohol not coming until he sipped champagne in the locker room to celebrate leading Blackpool to the FA Cup in a match that came to be known as “The Matthews Final” for his brilliant dribbling displays'' Lastly, pitches were awful years ago, really drained your energy and the old dubbin balls were like heading a medicine ball. Greaves and Best would be even more deadly if they were around now.

There isn’t a single footballer from the last century who could keep up with Gareth Bale over a 100 yard sprint.

Cunningham would have Chidozie would defo have. That’s just at our club.

[KC & sunshine band]

Nonsensical logic.

My job involves sitting on my arse at a computer in a safe environment. Does this mean that I can’t ever need time off because somewhere in the world somebody is saving lives as an A+E doctor?

nonsensical response
sitting on yer arse doing whatever has fried yer brain
you need a rest

Ok, I’ll try another route to prove how stupid your original post was:

Let’s stick you on the schedule of a professional footballer for two weeks. Let’s see how long you can keep up before you need a rest.

you really are a silly billy
okay arrange it and I will give it a go
anything so that you dont have a flounce and go to the other board and then return and then leave etc
Try relaxing , calm down, take up snooker and take a looonng rest
This is all just a game
stay safe billy

ps hes still f*cking useless !

[tuffers#1]

You are talking to a person in myself who before my injury was butchers dog fit, used to play midweek indoor 5 a side football and 11 a side on most Saturdays and Sundays. I played football regularly since around 10 years old and captained my school sides till i left school at 16 years old. When playing adult football we did pre season cross country was part of the training and went training for 3 hours sessions, twice a week after work all taken by an ex army PT instructor and he literally made you sweat blood ! Seems to be an idea on this forum that Pro Footballers of years ago were in the main out of condition, alcoholics and puffed out after making a run down the pitch, what complete nonsense. Just a couple of players I saw play live....John White of Spurs and Scotland was a Mr Perpetual, slim as a biscuit and a celebrated cross-country runner. Cliff Jones, Wales and Spurs left winger, fastest winger by far I have ever seen and could have given Gareth Bale a 5 yard start over a 100 yards sprint. Stanley Mathews, a fitness freak who played till he was 50 years old ''Matthews was a vegetarian and a teetotaler, his first drink of alcohol not coming until he sipped champagne in the locker room to celebrate leading Blackpool to the FA Cup in a match that came to be known as “The Matthews Final” for his brilliant dribbling displays'' Lastly, pitches were awful years ago, really drained your energy and the old dubbin balls were like heading a medicine ball. Greaves and Best would be even more deadly if they were around now.

There isn’t a single footballer from the last century who could keep up with Gareth Bale over a 100 yard sprint.

Cunningham would have Chidozie would defo have. That’s just at our club.

Neither were drinkers though thorson .
Players then werent checked for body fat ratios & then
put on strict diets to enhance there output .

Laurie & chidders would be even quicker today .

Just look at the kid Lamptey at Brighton.