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Re: Tory Watch
With her and whittey and they want you to beleive in what they're doing? Disgusting, immoral and should not be allowed due to conflict of interests.StillSpike wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:23 pm Hmmmm - all perfectly above board I'm sure
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Re: Tory Watch
So Marcus gets his way & the Government
Do another U-Turn on school meals fo kids over xmas.
This is Now the 15th u- Turn taken by the Story Party .
How are the Story party going to get anything new done
before Brexit deadline day ?
Where do they go from here Now the Trump deal
will be dead in the water ?
Do another U-Turn on school meals fo kids over xmas.
This is Now the 15th u- Turn taken by the Story Party .
How are the Story party going to get anything new done
before Brexit deadline day ?
Where do they go from here Now the Trump deal
will be dead in the water ?
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Sometimes when you get something wrong is it not better to correct your original mistake rather than plough and make it worse?tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:49 pm So Marcus gets his way & the Government
Do another U-Turn on school meals fo kids over xmas.
This is Now the 15th u- Turn taken by the Story Party .
How are the Story party going to get anything new done
before Brexit deadline day ?
Where do they go from here Now the Trump deal
will be dead in the water ?
Whilst it should never have came to this, the government has shown a position of strength to acknowledge and fix their original error of judgement.
But I’m sure Tuffers you will just continue to slag them off even when they do a good thing.
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Just do the good thing Thorbyn.Thor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 9:01 pmSometimes when you get something wrong is it not better to correct your original mistake rather than plough and make it worse?tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:49 pm So Marcus gets his way & the Government
Do another U-Turn on school meals fo kids over xmas.
This is Now the 15th u- Turn taken by the Story Party .
How are the Story party going to get anything new done
before Brexit deadline day ?
Where do they go from here Now the Trump deal
will be dead in the water ?
Whilst it should never have came to this, the government has shown a position of strength to acknowledge and fix their original error of judgement.
But I’m sure Tuffers you will just continue to slag them off even when they do a good thing.
Dont keep f*cking about saying no no no
We cant we cant we cant
Actually Yes we can.
Get F*cking Competent people in there !!
Or bite the bullet & face bigger debt !
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You've nailed it there Ronnie BoyRonnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 9:41 pm The cronyism never ends
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If we dont do a deal with the EU , then when we leave the EU officially on Jan1st, mayhem will be cast upon us.
Im wondering if one brexiteer, will have the courage to come on here and admit they got it wrong, and admit that leaving the EU was a massive mistake
Im wondering if one brexiteer, will have the courage to come on here and admit they got it wrong, and admit that leaving the EU was a massive mistake
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I'm wondering if one remoaner, will have the courage to come on here and admit they got it wrong, and admit that leaving the EU was a brilliant idea.
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I'm wondering if one remain voter will have the courage to come on here and admitt that they've finally got over it
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Already did that ages ago. I'm actually looking forward to it now.Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Tue Nov 10, 2020 11:21 am I'm wondering if one remain voter will have the courage to come on here and admitt that they've finally got over it
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Wasnt it meant to be better than it is now in 2016 ?ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Tue Nov 10, 2020 11:01 am If we dont do a deal with the EU , then when we leave the EU officially on Jan1st, mayhem will be cast upon us.
Im wondering if one brexiteer, will have the courage to come on here and admit they got it wrong, and admit that leaving the EU was a massive mistake
Yeah like that's going to happen .
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Well over it Pammy - the argument for a 2nd referendum etc was lost long ago.Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Tue Nov 10, 2020 11:21 am I'm wondering if one remain voter will have the courage to come on here and admitt that they've finally got over it
It's happening and us remoaners can only hope it won't be an utter omnishambles.
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Do you ever wish you/remainers in general had run with "we accept the referendum (lol) but because it was so close a soft Brexit reflects the result" then pushed for an EEA/EFTA style deal?Admin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 10, 2020 4:01 pmWell over it Pammy - the argument for a 2nd referendum etc was lost long ago.Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Tue Nov 10, 2020 11:21 am I'm wondering if one remain voter will have the courage to come on here and admitt that they've finally got over it
It's happening and us remoaners can only hope it won't be an utter omnishambles.
Labour, SNP and a lot of the Tories (including maybe May's cabinet) would've backed that and it could be easily sold to the public
Instead remains goal was always 2nd ref/revoke which allowed the ERG to monopolise the leave side and make it a binary choice between their Leave Vs 2nd Ref
You went for the Car and lost it all
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This absolutely - it should have happened really quickly (led by Cameron who'd precipitated it) and we should have struck the "Norway" deal immediately, before the "no-deal-at-all-costs" and the FBPE loons took over both ends of the argument and we are where we are.Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Tue Nov 10, 2020 4:12 pmDo you ever wish you/remainers in general had run with "we accept the referendum (lol) but because it was so close a soft Brexit reflects the result" then pushed for an EEA/EFTA style deal?Admin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 10, 2020 4:01 pmWell over it Pammy - the argument for a 2nd referendum etc was lost long ago.Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Tue Nov 10, 2020 11:21 am I'm wondering if one remain voter will have the courage to come on here and admitt that they've finally got over it
It's happening and us remoaners can only hope it won't be an utter omnishambles.
Labour, SNP and a lot of the Tories (including maybe May's cabinet) would've backed that and it could be easily sold to the public
Instead remains goal was always 2nd ref/revoke which allowed the ERG to monopolise the leave side and make it a binary choice between their Leave Vs 2nd Ref
You went for the Car and lost it all
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Very much inclined to agree. I doubt many of the 52% would've cared had that been the opening gambit and (though they'll never admit it) Eurosceptic types would've bitten of your hand for EFTA 2 years priorStillSpike wrote: ↑Tue Nov 10, 2020 4:23 pmThis absolutely - it should have happened really quickly (led by Cameron who'd precipitated it) and we should have struck the "Norway" deal immediately, before the "no-deal-at-all-costs" and the FBPE loons took over both ends of the argument and we are where we are.Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Tue Nov 10, 2020 4:12 pmDo you ever wish you/remainers in general had run with "we accept the referendum (lol) but because it was so close a soft Brexit reflects the result" then pushed for an EEA/EFTA style deal?
Labour, SNP and a lot of the Tories (including maybe May's cabinet) would've backed that and it could be easily sold to the public
Instead remains goal was always 2nd ref/revoke which allowed the ERG to monopolise the leave side and make it a binary choice between their Leave Vs 2nd Ref
You went for the Car and lost it all
Instead the call was almost immediately for a second referendum which allowed ERG to play the "your votes don't count card" and indoctrinate the 52% into pure brexit or no brexit bollocks and convince people their version of Brexit was what they voted for.
Quite short sighted by the remain side who I'd guess were acting out of fear that any acceptance of leave would alienate their base
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I know sarcastic, unintelligent one line answers are your thing. But drop the strawmanRonnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Tue Nov 10, 2020 4:22 pm Yep, this sh*t show is definitely the remainers fault.
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Yes. It was where I initially thought we'd end up immediately after the referendum. Whilst I might not like the result, I've never been massively keen on overturning a democratic vote. The blame for this sh*t-show rests entirely with the conmen, not the conned. If I'd have thought the promises Boris et al had made, I'd have voted for it as well.Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Tue Nov 10, 2020 4:12 pmDo you ever wish you/remainers in general had run with "we accept the referendum (lol) but because it was so close a soft Brexit reflects the result" then pushed for an EEA/EFTA style deal?Admin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 10, 2020 4:01 pmWell over it Pammy - the argument for a 2nd referendum etc was lost long ago.Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Tue Nov 10, 2020 11:21 am I'm wondering if one remain voter will have the courage to come on here and admitt that they've finally got over it
It's happening and us remoaners can only hope it won't be an utter omnishambles.
Labour, SNP and a lot of the Tories (including maybe May's cabinet) would've backed that and it could be easily sold to the public
Instead remains goal was always 2nd ref/revoke which allowed the ERG to monopolise the leave side and make it a binary choice between their Leave Vs 2nd Ref
You went for the Car and lost it all
Once Cameron had f*cked off, the whole thing became a bigger shitshow with Auntie Theresa trying to satisfy the wants of utter goons like Redwood, Baker and the rest of the ERG.
'Tis what it is now. Obviously I'd rip yer arm off to stay in the EU but I can only hope it's not as big a shitefest as it's looking like it'll be now.
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