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Has now won more races in F1 than any other driver in history. A wonderful achievement from a truly brilliant driver.

Just to show how good he is, this link will take you to his very last kart race at Buckmore Park, he starts at the very back and still manages to win the race. Watch it and watch a genius at work.

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Re: Lewis Hamilton

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There will never be another like him, that's for sure.
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The thing is he isn’t finished yet and may will leave records that may never be broken.
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Re: Lewis Hamilton

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Love him to pieces. Was gutted in 2007 when he lost the championship in cruel circumstances and those last few laps/corners of the Brazilian grand prix the year after will forever stay in my memory.

What's his win percentage in relation to Schumi? Hamilton has been totally dominant in recent years but the advantage he has over Schumacher is the much longer calendar during his time.
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Some would say he is a tax evader by living in low-tax Switzerland and should not be lauded, as much as he is, for that. As a sporting achievement he's done well. Very competitive. I remember one of his cohorts talking about having competitions with him for who could eat their breakfast cornflakes the quickest. Now that is competitive.
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Re: Lewis Hamilton

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EliotNes wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:06 pm Some would say he is a tax evader by living in low-tax Switzerland and should not be lauded, as much as he is, for that. As a sporting achievement he's done well. Very competitive. I remember one of his cohorts talking about having competitions with him for who could eat their breakfast cornflakes the quickest. Now that is competitive.

How is he a tax evader? He lives in Switzerland, he pays his tax there. My wife is Australian but doesn’t pay any tax in Australia. That’s because she lives in the UK. Simple, really.
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Re: Lewis Hamilton

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The most Boring of sports
But he still has to sit there & drive to win
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Stowaway wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:10 pm
EliotNes wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:06 pm Some would say he is a tax evader by living in low-tax Switzerland and should not be lauded, as much as he is, for that. As a sporting achievement he's done well. Very competitive. I remember one of his cohorts talking about having competitions with him for who could eat their breakfast cornflakes the quickest. Now that is competitive.

How is he a tax evader? He lives in Switzerland, he pays his tax there. My wife is Australian but doesn’t pay any tax in Australia. That’s because she lives in the UK. Simple, really.
If people choose to live in another country for personal reasons like marriage, job or they just like the lifestyle that not evading tax. My son lives is Australia because he likes the lifestyle. If you change countries just because you pay less tax,it is. It was reported that this is why he lives in Switzerland. Who knows, maybe he just likes it there. Saving millions is just a bonus.
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Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:18 pm Love him to pieces. Was gutted in 2007 when he lost the championship in cruel circumstances and those last few laps/corners of the Brazilian grand prix the year after will forever stay in my memory.

What's his win percentage in relation to Schumi? Hamilton has been totally dominant in recent years but the advantage he has over Schumacher is the much longer calendar during his time.
Took him longer to win 91 races than it took Schumi. 261 v. 246.

Schumi would have won many more races had there been 20-21 races per season in his prime rather than 16. I'm not a Lewis fan at all but he's a remarkable driver. People like to complain that he is always in the top car, like Guardiola is always managing a top team - but there is a reason why he is in those sort of teams because he has elite abilities.
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Re: Lewis Hamilton

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A class A plonker.

He has ability, but lacks the style of Senna, the ruthlessness of Schumacher and the class of Fangio.
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Used to love Formula 1 as it used to be more of an even playing field in the way of the cars, with certain drivers like Senna, Prost, Mansell, Hill, Schumacher getting that extra bit out of them.

Nowadays nothing is competing against Mercedes and frankly Hamilton is just fortunate to be in that car. Not to say thats Hamiltons fault, as the other teams should be doing more to compete.
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Agree Fellowo, used to watch F1 religiously, don’t bother much now and don’t follow it closely, outside the start it’s mainly boring.

I don’t particularly take to Hamilton, but a superb driver, when Vettel was winning the Championship always felt that Hamilton was better, all down to car really, and that’s been in favour of Hamilton last few years.
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Re: Lewis Hamilton

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I was mentally comparing him yesterday to Marcus Rashford. Rashford uses some of his time and money to spread a little goodness. Hamilton, as soon as he had an inkling he was on to a successful F1 career, said, "Right, I am out of here, to Switzerland, where I can pay a lot less tax and keep more of my loadsa money all to myself ". Frankly there is no comparison really, is there?
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Disoriented wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:12 am A class A plonker.

He has ability, but lacks the style of Senna, the ruthlessness of Schumacher and the class of Fangio.
But he wins more than them so despite his style, class, ruthlessness he must just be a better driver. It seems that is paramount given his job.

Personally I don’t much like the guy but it’s impossible to ignore his achievements.
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Re: Lewis Hamilton

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Dohnut wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:56 am
Stowaway wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:10 pm
EliotNes wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:06 pm Some would say he is a tax evader by living in low-tax Switzerland and should not be lauded, as much as he is, for that. As a sporting achievement he's done well. Very competitive. I remember one of his cohorts talking about having competitions with him for who could eat their breakfast cornflakes the quickest. Now that is competitive.

How is he a tax evader? He lives in Switzerland, he pays his tax there. My wife is Australian but doesn’t pay any tax in Australia. That’s because she lives in the UK. Simple, really.
If people choose to live in another country for personal reasons like marriage, job or they just like the lifestyle that not evading tax. My son lives is Australia because he likes the lifestyle. If you change countries just because you pay less tax,it is. It was reported that this is why he lives in Switzerland. Who knows, maybe he just likes it there. Saving millions is just a bonus.
I wonder if there are any other reasons your son moved to the opposite side of the world from you?
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Re: Lewis Hamilton

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Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:21 pm
Dohnut wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:56 am
Stowaway wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:10 pm


How is he a tax evader? He lives in Switzerland, he pays his tax there. My wife is Australian but doesn’t pay any tax in Australia. That’s because she lives in the UK. Simple, really.
If people choose to live in another country for personal reasons like marriage, job or they just like the lifestyle that not evading tax. My son lives is Australia because he likes the lifestyle. If you change countries just because you pay less tax,it is. It was reported that this is why he lives in Switzerland. Who knows, maybe he just likes it there. Saving millions is just a bonus.
I wonder if there are any other reasons your son moved to the opposite side of the world from you?
Comments like that are either stupid, rude or .. well let’s not go there! I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt.
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Clive Evans wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:32 am I was mentally comparing him yesterday to Marcus Rashford. Rashford uses some of his time and money to spread a little goodness. Hamilton, as soon as he had an inkling he was on to a successful F1 career, said, "Right, I am out of here, to Switzerland, where I can pay a lot less tax and keep more of my loadsa money all to myself ". Frankly there is no comparison really, is there?
I'm no fan of Hamilton's but his record speaks for himself. You can't compare him to Rashford as he has to stay in the UK (right now) to ply his trade at Man U - and Rashford is something of a rarity when it comes to off the field activities. I'm sure Lewis does stuff too, but no more than any other sporting superstar.
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Dohnut wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:35 pm
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:21 pm
Dohnut wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:56 am

If people choose to live in another country for personal reasons like marriage, job or they just like the lifestyle that not evading tax. My son lives is Australia because he likes the lifestyle. If you change countries just because you pay less tax,it is. It was reported that this is why he lives in Switzerland. Who knows, maybe he just likes it there. Saving millions is just a bonus.
I wonder if there are any other reasons your son moved to the opposite side of the world from you?
Comments like that are either stupid, rude or .. well let’s not go there! I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt.
Sorry, only meant it as a joke, I didn't realise that was really the reason.
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Clive Evans wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:32 am I was mentally comparing him yesterday to Marcus Rashford. Rashford uses some of his time and money to spread a little goodness. Hamilton, as soon as he had an inkling he was on to a successful F1 career, said, "Right, I am out of here, to Switzerland, where I can pay a lot less tax and keep more of my loadsa money all to myself ". Frankly there is no comparison really, is there?
I know bugger all about F1 or Hamilton, just as I know bugger all about boxing and that Antony Joshua fella. The only thing I have heard about them is how they used to be really popular, then that changed after speaking out on BLM.

Is the reason Hamilton moved to Switzerland really just to save tax, or are there some work related reasons for doing so?
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Fellowo wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:50 am Used to love Formula 1 as it used to be more of an even playing field in the way of the cars, with certain drivers like Senna, Prost, Mansell, Hill, Schumacher getting that extra bit out of them.

Nowadays nothing is competing against Mercedes and frankly Hamilton is just fortunate to be in that car. Not to say thats Hamiltons fault, as the other teams should be doing more to compete.
Years ago I used to find car motor sport really exciting, but not now, in fact to me its a bore and switch over to another tv channel sport. My brother was an amazing motor cycle racer, regularly competed in the Isle of Man TT Races and one year actually won his race. I also had many fast bikes including a Triumph ''Thruxton'' Bonneville. Changed my mind about Motor Bikes now, too many people I know got badly injured or killed whilst riding them.
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Not my sport tbh..

Question for those in the know.

Is it him, or is it the car that is so good?.
Would he win as many races, if he drove for another team?.
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Sailor wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:10 pm Not my sport tbh..

Question for those in the know.

Is it him, or is it the car that is so good?.
Would he win as many races, if he drove for another team?.
The car is clearly the best of the bunch at the moment, so no - he wouldn't win as many races if he drove for another team.

However, to answer the question "is it him, or is it the car that is so good?" - you can probably just look at the fact that he's 77 points ahead of the other guy who's driving the same car this year.

Another question might be - "would he be driving the best car out there if he wasn't the best driver?" - Mercedes could hire me to drive for them (they'd have to widen the seat a bit, but I'd certainly be cheaper) - but they've got the best car so pretty much get to choose who they hire to drive it - and they've chosen him, so I'm guessing they think he's the best.
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Re: Lewis Hamilton

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Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:25 pm
Clive Evans wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:32 am I was mentally comparing him yesterday to Marcus Rashford. Rashford uses some of his time and money to spread a little goodness. Hamilton, as soon as he had an inkling he was on to a successful F1 career, said, "Right, I am out of here, to Switzerland, where I can pay a lot less tax and keep more of my loadsa money all to myself ". Frankly there is no comparison really, is there?
I know bugger all about F1 or Hamilton, just as I know bugger all about boxing and that Antony Joshua fella. The only thing I have heard about them is how they used to be really popular, then that changed after speaking out on BLM.

Is the reason Hamilton moved to Switzerland really just to save tax, or are there some work related reasons for doing so?
He was living in Monaco with wa whole load of other drivers and he moved for tax reasons as admitted by his dad. See below link.

https://www.crash.net/f1/news/61282/1/l ... iss-switch
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Sailor wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:10 pm Not my sport tbh..

Question for those in the know.

Is it him, or is it the car that is so good?.
Would he win as many races, if he drove for another team?.
The car is good without doubt, a couple of years ago the Ferreri was considered the superior car yet lewis still drove it to the championship. He has absolute driving skills, better than any other in the field today. If you watch back the go kart race I posted you will see his kart is the same standard as all the others yet goes from the back to win on the last lap, that’s not the kart that’s the driver managing to extract everything from the kart coupled with his driving skills.

He is a special talent, is he the best ever? I’m not so sure. The best I’ve seen race was Senna, he was on another level. Whoever you think was the best and it’s subjective he will be right up near the top for sure, some say Clark was the best driver ever and when you look at his achievements he did it across multiple disciplines in different vehicles, amazing yet you don’t see that today, maybe it’s a money and or insurance reason why that’s so.
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Looks like he came from a poor enviroment.
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