Universal Credit

[Still wrong]

I must admit as a lifelong Labour voter

What's funny?
You will find that most people like to see their tax payers money used properly.
Every penny wasted is less money for other services.
If these figures are correct, then there is no reason for for people not to eat.

[Still wrong]

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[Ronnie Hotdogs]

I must admit as a lifelong Labour voter

What's funny?
You will find that most people like to see their tax payers money used properly.
Every penny wasted is less money for other services.
If these figures are correct, then there is no reason for for people not to eat.

What’s funny is this right wing sh*t-stirring alias pretending to be a life long labour voter. Apologies for the misunderstanding.

[Still wrong]

What's funny?
You will find that most people like to see their tax payers money used properly.
Every penny wasted is less money for other services.
If these figures are correct, then there is no reason for for people not to eat.

What’s funny is this right wing sh*t-stirring alias pretending to be a life long labour voter. Apologies for the misunderstanding.

Lifelong Labour voter and a lifelong Union member.
The Welfare state was introduced so people didn't starve.
It is not for unnecessary luxuries and that includes £30 Takeaways and £5 pints of beer.
Where do you think the money comes from?

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

What's funny?
You will find that most people like to see their tax payers money used properly.
Every penny wasted is less money for other services.
If these figures are correct, then there is no reason for for people not to eat.

What’s funny is this right wing sh*t-stirring alias pretending to be a life long labour voter. Apologies for the misunderstanding.

Lifelong Labour voter and a lifelong Union member.
The Welfare state was introduced so people didn't starve.
It is not for unnecessary luxuries and that includes £30 Takeaways and £5 pints of beer.
Where do you think the money comes from?

pack it in, fella.

[Oiram]

Apparently a skint couple with 2 kids under 10 will get over £1500 a month to live on.
90% of the rent will be paid.
Council tax support brings it down to £10 per month contribution.
And free dental and optical care.
Free prescriptions
Free School meals.
I must admit as a lifelong Labour voter this shocked me.
If the figures are correct, ( try the calculator yourself) then this should be enough to feed the kids without further handouts.

Plus the painting and decorating , gardening work , cash in hand , should be having a great old jolly up! Keep working hard folks , other people’s children depend on us to feed them!

[Rich Tea Wellin]

Apparently a skint couple with 2 kids under 10 will get over £1500 a month to live on.
90% of the rent will be paid.
Council tax support brings it down to £10 per month contribution.
And free dental and optical care.
Free prescriptions
Free School meals.
I must admit as a lifelong Labour voter this shocked me.
If the figures are correct, ( try the calculator yourself) then this should be enough to feed the kids without further handouts.

Plus the painting and decorating , gardening work , cash in hand , should be having a great old jolly up! Keep working hard folks , other people’s children depend on us to feed them!

More than happy to help. Would pay more tax if it meant poor kids could eat

[Oiram]

Apparently a skint couple with 2 kids under 10 will get over £1500 a month to live on.
90% of the rent will be paid.
Council tax support brings it down to £10 per month contribution.
And free dental and optical care.
Free prescriptions
Free School meals.
I must admit as a lifelong Labour voter this shocked me.
If the figures are correct, ( try the calculator yourself) then this should be enough to feed the kids without further handouts.

Plus the painting and decorating , gardening work , cash in hand , should be having a great old jolly up! Keep working hard folks , other people’s children depend on us to feed them!

More than happy to help. Would pay more tax if it meant poor kids could eat

You have been watching too much afternoon TV, ‘Charity’ I would gladly feed ‘starving kids’ . Most are queuing outside those cheap chicken shops buying chicken and chips for 99p after school. Most look obese to me. This ‘starving kids’ Bow locks is an orchestrated lefty fake news campaign to discredit The Conservatives and Brexit. Nothing else.

If there are ‘starving kids’ Social Services’ are not doing their job. Social Services are well financed to deal with such cases. Are you sure you are not confusing the charity adverts purporting to be from Africa with the reality here? The charities here have Executive Directors on Circa 300k a year. All a load of nonsense. They are not performing either, go protest outside their offices.

I will equal any money you donate to ‘starving kids’ put up or shut up?

[Rich Tea Wellin]

Plus the painting and decorating , gardening work , cash in hand , should be having a great old jolly up! Keep working hard folks , other people’s children depend on us to feed them!

More than happy to help. Would pay more tax if it meant poor kids could eat

You have been watching too much afternoon TV, ‘Charity’ I would gladly feed ‘starving kids’ . Most are queuing outside those cheap chicken shops buying chicken and chips for 99p after school. Most look obese to me. This ‘starving kids’ Bow locks is an orchestrated lefty fake news campaign to discredit The Conservatives and Brexit. Nothing else.

If there are ‘starving kids’ Social Services’ are not doing their job. Social Services are well financed to deal with such cases. Are you sure you are not confusing the charity adverts purporting to be from Africa with the reality here? The charities here have Executive Directors on Circa 300k a year. All a load of nonsense. They are not performing either, go protest outside their offices.

I will equal any money you donate to ‘starving kids’ put up or shut up?

Yeah all those foodbanks are just getting food and throwing it out the back.

I already give to Trussell Trust every month. But sure, what charity shall we go for, your choice? Any limit?

[jamespevans]

There are some rancid threads on this forum at the moment. Nice to see that we are pulling together and supporting people in these difficult times!

[Oiram]

More than happy to help. Would pay more tax if it meant poor kids could eat

You have been watching too much afternoon TV, ‘Charity’ I would gladly feed ‘starving kids’ . Most are queuing outside those cheap chicken shops buying chicken and chips for 99p after school. Most look obese to me. This ‘starving kids’ Bow locks is an orchestrated lefty fake news campaign to discredit The Conservatives and Brexit. Nothing else.

If there are ‘starving kids’ Social Services’ are not doing their job. Social Services are well financed to deal with such cases. Are you sure you are not confusing the charity adverts purporting to be from Africa with the reality here? The charities here have Executive Directors on Circa 300k a year. All a load of nonsense. They are not performing either, go protest outside their offices.

I will equal any money you donate to ‘starving kids’ put up or shut up?

Yeah all those foodbanks are just getting food and throwing it out the back.

I already give to Trussell Trust every month. But sure, what charity shall we go for, your choice? Any limit?

Let’s talk
Face to face and we will see what we concur. I like direct charity not via 300k PA Executives and staff where a kid ends up with a 25p meal

[Rich Tea Wellin]

I’ll be honest mate, I don’t know what any of that means. But still open to a donation so let me know what charity you think suits

[Mick McQuaid]

Maybe it was always this way and I just don't remember it but the ability of successive governments to make hard up people believe that the problem with the distribution of wealth in this country is that people on benefits get a free ride is quite amazing.

[Rich Tea Wellin]

Maybe it was always this way and I just don't remember it but the ability of successive governments to make hard up people believe that the problem with the distribution of wealth in this country is that people on benefits get a free ride is quite amazing.

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

Maybe it was always this way and I just don't remember it but the ability of successive governments to make hard up people believe that the problem with the distribution of wealth in this country is that people on benefits get a free ride is quite amazing.

No, I don’t think it has always been this way.

It’s something which has been ramped up as inequality has grown.

[tuffers#1]

Even if you are paying £ 1000+ a month from that in Rent ?

Then Electric & Gas Water rates & Council tax ?

The calculation was done out of London.
I put the rent at £900 pm.
This is fully funded and the discounted council tax came out at £10 pm.
The Gas/Electricity on a modern building will be about £70 pm.
Water rates probably £50 pm.
So that leaves about £500 for food etc.
I estimate you can feed a family of 4 at about £10 per day.
This doesn’t include free school meals.
Food = £310 pm.
Balance = about £180.
Certainly enough to get by on.

How can you feed a family of 4 on £10 per day? Breakfast, lunch, dinner. How about soap, cleaning products, clothes etc?

If it is so great, why bother working?

I have done it several times.
And don’t forget, I didn't include Free school meals.
If you cook from scratch you can easily do this.
I would have thought the £180 pm would go towards other items.
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Doesnt even come close to being enough
School clothes , clothes for everyday , dont forget tbere kids
Under 10 so they are growing every 6 months or so .

Why do you think so many people who are working on low wages
are in so much debt ?

For someone who claims to be a Labour voter ( )
You sound very much like a Tory .

[Still wrong]

The calculation was done out of London.
I put the rent at £900 pm.
This is fully funded and the discounted council tax came out at £10 pm.
The Gas/Electricity on a modern building will be about £70 pm.
Water rates probably £50 pm.
So that leaves about £500 for food etc.
I estimate you can feed a family of 4 at about £10 per day.
This doesn’t include free school meals.
Food = £310 pm.
Balance = about £180.
Certainly enough to get by on.

How can you feed a family of 4 on £10 per day? Breakfast, lunch, dinner. How about soap, cleaning products, clothes etc?

If it is so great, why bother working?

I have done it several times.
And don’t forget, I didn't include Free school meals.
If you cook from scratch you can easily do this.
I would have thought the £180 pm would go towards other items.

Doesnt even come close to being enough
School clothes , clothes for everyday , dont forget tbere kids
Under 10 so they are growing every 6 months or so .

Why do you think so many people who are working on low wages
are in so much debt ?

For someone who claims to be a Labour voter ( )
You sound very much like a Tory .
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The reason a lot of people are in debt is because they spend more then what they get.
Clothes are cheaper than ever if you shop in the right places.
Just because I don’t believe in unnecessary waste doesn’t make me a Tory.
I have seen it myself, Champagne taste on Lemonade money.

[tuffers#1]

The reason a lot of people are in debt is because they spend more then what they get.
Clothes are cheaper than ever if you shop in the right places.
Just because I don’t believe in unnecessary waste doesn’t make me a Tory.
I have seen it myself, Champagne taste on Lemonade money.

You're Quote not mine
Thanks

[PutneyO]

From what Ive heard, it's not an improvement on the previous system to say the least

[Long slender neck]

You have been watching too much afternoon TV, ‘Charity’ I would gladly feed ‘starving kids’ . Most are queuing outside those cheap chicken shops buying chicken and chips for 99p after school. Most look obese to me. This ‘starving kids’ Bow locks is an orchestrated lefty fake news campaign to discredit The Conservatives and Brexit. Nothing else.

If there are ‘starving kids’ Social Services’ are not doing their job. Social Services are well financed to deal with such cases. Are you sure you are not confusing the charity adverts purporting to be from Africa with the reality here? The charities here have Executive Directors on Circa 300k a year. All a load of nonsense. They are not performing either, go protest outside their offices.

I will equal any money you donate to ‘starving kids’ put up or shut up?

Yeah all those foodbanks are just getting food and throwing it out the back.

I already give to Trussell Trust every month. But sure, what charity shall we go for, your choice? Any limit?

Let’s talk
Face to face and we will see what we concur. I like direct charity not via 300k PA Executives and staff where a kid ends up with a 25p meal

Bottled it Oiram.

[Oiram]

Yeah all those foodbanks are just getting food and throwing it out the back.

I already give to Trussell Trust every month. But sure, what charity shall we go for, your choice? Any limit?

Let’s talk
Face to face and we will see what we concur. I like direct charity not via 300k PA Executives and staff where a kid ends up with a 25p meal

Bottled it Oiram.

Why, here waiting for any proposals

[Long slender neck]

You said "I will equal any money you donate to ‘starving kids’ put up or shut up?"

Wunble has proven he donated at least £40 to a relevant charity.

Waiting for you to donate and post proof.

[Long slender neck]

Best way out for the Tories is if they permanently increase child benefit to cover meals during holidays, it would also be a better solution than one off payments.

[Currywurst and Chips]

Best way out for the Tories is if they permanently increase child benefit to cover meals during holidays, it would also be a better solution than one off payments.

Would also benefit people who earn Rashford style wages though

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

Best way out for the Tories is if they permanently increase child benefit to cover meals during holidays, it would also be a better solution than one off payments.

They’ve removed child benefit for more than 2 kids, so not likely.