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Apparently a skint couple with 2 kids under 10 will get over £1500 a month to live on.
90% of the rent will be paid.
Council tax support brings it down to £10 per month contribution.
And free dental and optical care.
Free prescriptions
Free School meals.
I must admit as a lifelong Labour voter this shocked me.
If the figures are correct, ( try the calculator yourself) then this should be enough to feed the kids without further handouts.
90% of the rent will be paid.
Council tax support brings it down to £10 per month contribution.
And free dental and optical care.
Free prescriptions
Free School meals.
I must admit as a lifelong Labour voter this shocked me.
If the figures are correct, ( try the calculator yourself) then this should be enough to feed the kids without further handouts.
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Re: Universal Credit
Even if they have savings over £16k ?Cavalier wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:25 pm Apparently a skint couple with 2 kids under 10 will get over £1500 a month to live on.
90% of the rent will be paid.
Council tax support brings it down to £10 per month contribution.
And free dental and optical care.
Free prescriptions
Free School meals.
I must admit as a lifelong Labour voter this shocked me.
If the figures are correct, ( try the calculator yourself) then this should be enough to feed the kids without further handouts.
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Re: Universal Credit
As far as I can see Al you need to pay the rent out of that.
Not a fortune I except, but over £700 pm to pay for food etc should be enough?
This is for a 2 bedroom house.
This is the equivalent of someone earning 22 k
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Re: Universal Credit
The clue is in the word skint.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:46 pmEven if they have savings over £16k ?Cavalier wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:25 pm Apparently a skint couple with 2 kids under 10 will get over £1500 a month to live on.
90% of the rent will be paid.
Council tax support brings it down to £10 per month contribution.
And free dental and optical care.
Free prescriptions
Free School meals.
I must admit as a lifelong Labour voter this shocked me.
If the figures are correct, ( try the calculator yourself) then this should be enough to feed the kids without further handouts.
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Re: Universal Credit
So whats your problem ?Cavalier wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:50 pmThe clue is in the word skint.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:46 pmEven if they have savings over £16k ?Cavalier wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:25 pm Apparently a skint couple with 2 kids under 10 will get over £1500 a month to live on.
90% of the rent will be paid.
Council tax support brings it down to £10 per month contribution.
And free dental and optical care.
Free prescriptions
Free School meals.
I must admit as a lifelong Labour voter this shocked me.
If the figures are correct, ( try the calculator yourself) then this should be enough to feed the kids without further handouts.
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Re: Universal Credit
If these figures are correct then that should be enough to live on.
No unnecessary luxuries though. I.e £30 take always.
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Why cant they have a £30 take away ?
Is that part of brexit/uk law now ?
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Nobody’s saying they can’t. Just don’t spunk £30 on takeaways and then complain you have no money.
(To be fair this isn’t limited to poor people)
(To be fair this isn’t limited to poor people)
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Correct.Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:08 pm Nobody’s saying they can’t. Just don’t spunk £30 on takeaways and then complain you have no money.
(To be fair this isn’t limited to poor people)
You only have to see how many idiots spend more than what they earn, normally on rubbish.
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Who is complaining about spunking £30 quid on take aways & then not having any money ?Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:08 pm Nobody’s saying they can’t. Just don’t spunk £30 on takeaways and then complain you have no money.
(To be fair this isn’t limited to poor people)
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95% of people I’ve ever worked with!tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:11 pmWho is complaining about spunking £30 quid on take aways & then not having any money ?Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:08 pm Nobody’s saying they can’t. Just don’t spunk £30 on takeaways and then complain you have no money.
(To be fair this isn’t limited to poor people)
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95% of people I’ve ever worked with!Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:18 pmWho is complaining about spunking £30 quid on take aways & then not having any money ?
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So there not on UC if they are working then ,
Or are you saying you work with criminals who
are fraudulantly claiming benefits ?
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The government used to pay the rent direct to the Landlord. Why this was ever changed I don’t know.
Pre pay meters are also a problem. Hugely expensive.
With the advent of smart meters, every household should be put on the most competitive tariff and the government should pay this direct every month. I would also add the council tax with that.
Giving people who cannot manage a budget £1500 upfront is just daft and it is a cause of a lot of these problems.
Pre pay meters are also a problem. Hugely expensive.
With the advent of smart meters, every household should be put on the most competitive tariff and the government should pay this direct every month. I would also add the council tax with that.
Giving people who cannot manage a budget £1500 upfront is just daft and it is a cause of a lot of these problems.
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Re: Universal Credit
Where are you getting this info/calculator from?Cavalier wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:25 pm Apparently a skint couple with 2 kids under 10 will get over £1500 a month to live on.
90% of the rent will be paid.
Council tax support brings it down to £10 per month contribution.
And free dental and optical care.
Free prescriptions
Free School meals.
I must admit as a lifelong Labour voter this shocked me.
If the figures are correct, ( try the calculator yourself) then this should be enough to feed the kids without further handouts.
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MoneysavingexpertPrestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:36 pmWhere are you getting this info/calculator from?Cavalier wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:25 pm Apparently a skint couple with 2 kids under 10 will get over £1500 a month to live on.
90% of the rent will be paid.
Council tax support brings it down to £10 per month contribution.
And free dental and optical care.
Free prescriptions
Free School meals.
I must admit as a lifelong Labour voter this shocked me.
If the figures are correct, ( try the calculator yourself) then this should be enough to feed the kids without further handouts.
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No they’re not on benefits. My point is that £1500/mth disposable income is more than enough to live on if you budget sensiblytuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:20 pmSo there not on UC if they are working then ,
Or are you saying you work with criminals who
are fraudulantly claiming benefits ?
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No they’re not on benefits. My point is that £1500/mth disposable income is more than enough to live on if you budget sensiblyMillennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:40 pmSo there not on UC if they are working then ,tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:20 pm95% of people I’ve ever worked with!Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:18 pm
Who is complaining about spunking £30 quid on take aways & then not having any money ?
Or are you saying you work with criminals who
are fraudulantly claiming benefits ?
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Even if you are paying £ 1000+ a month from that in Rent ?
Then Electric & Gas Water rates & Council tax ?
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Re: Universal Credit
What are they going to wear? Clothes cost money.
Remember, most people on benefits are working. Benefits are there so less wages are paid and more profits are made and also to pay the mortgages for landlords.
Remember, most people on benefits are working. Benefits are there so less wages are paid and more profits are made and also to pay the mortgages for landlords.
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Even if you are paying £ 1000+ a month from that in Rent ?tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:42 pmNo they’re not on benefits. My point is that £1500/mth disposable income is more than enough to live on if you budget sensiblyMillennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:40 pmSo there not on UC if they are working then ,
Or are you saying you work with criminals who
are fraudulantly claiming benefits ?
Then Electric & Gas Water rates & Council tax ?
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The calculation was done out of London.
I put the rent at £900 pm.
This is fully funded and the discounted council tax came out at £10 pm.
The Gas/Electricity on a modern building will be about £70 pm.
Water rates probably £50 pm.
So that leaves about £500 for food etc.
I estimate you can feed a family of 4 at about £10 per day.
This doesn’t include free school meals.
Food = £310 pm.
Balance = about £180.
Certainly enough to get by on.
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The calculation was done out of London.Cavalier wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:01 pmEven if you are paying £ 1000+ a month from that in Rent ?tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:42 pmNo they’re not on benefits. My point is that £1500/mth disposable income is more than enough to live on if you budget sensiblyMillennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:40 pm
So there not on UC if they are working then ,
Or are you saying you work with criminals who
are fraudulantly claiming benefits ?
Then Electric & Gas Water rates & Council tax ?
I put the rent at £900 pm.
This is fully funded and the discounted council tax came out at £10 pm.
The Gas/Electricity on a modern building will be about £70 pm.
Water rates probably £50 pm.
So that leaves about £500 for food etc.
I estimate you can feed a family of 4 at about £10 per day.
This doesn’t include free school meals.
Food = £310 pm.
Balance = about £180.
Certainly enough to get by on.
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How can you feed a family of 4 on £10 per day? Breakfast, lunch, dinner. How about soap, cleaning products, clothes etc?
If it is so great, why bother working?
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How can you feed a family of 4 on £10 per day? Breakfast, lunch, dinner. How about soap, cleaning products, clothes etc?The Mindsweep wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:17 pmThe calculation was done out of London.
I put the rent at £900 pm.
This is fully funded and the discounted council tax came out at £10 pm.
The Gas/Electricity on a modern building will be about £70 pm.
Water rates probably £50 pm.
So that leaves about £500 for food etc.
I estimate you can feed a family of 4 at about £10 per day.
This doesn’t include free school meals.
Food = £310 pm.
Balance = about £180.
Certainly enough to get by on.
If it is so great, why bother working?
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I have done it several times.
And don’t forget, I didn't include Free school meals.
If you cook from scratch you can easily do this.
I would have thought the £180 pm would go towards other items.
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You judgemental, empathy-lacking, smarmy ****.Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:40 pmNo they’re not on benefits. My point is that £1500/mth disposable income is more than enough to live on if you budget sensibly