Cameron- look what you have done

[tuffers#1]

I dont think £ 2.4 million is the reason the NHS is in as much trouble as it is .

Maybe not but it would help. Same as saving on the salaries of the unnecessary non medical management and pen pushers.

You decided to mention them.so i am assuming you have a Time Machine .

Lucky old you

[one o in huntingdon]

I’m surprised how many people still blame Thatcher for current problems. Its 27 years since she was ousted.

Go to the National Coal Mining museum if you want to learn more about her sins
Heart breaking stuff, whole communities and families destroyed, they won't ever forget

[tuffers#1]

I’m surprised how many people still blame Thatcher for current problems. Its 27 years since she was ousted.

Go to the National Coal Mining museum if you want to learn more about her sins
Heart breaking stuff, whole communities and families destroyed, they won't ever forget

Homelessness for the poorer has rocketed , No Council houses spare , did they all get knocked down or something.

BT one of the most successful companies in the world in the last 25 years . Didnt the Public used to own that ?

[Oforever]

So voting should only be for those who understand the issues! Jesus wept.

[Chelmsford Swimmer]

So voting should only be for those who understand the issues! Jesus wept.

Personally I would rather major decisions were made by people who understand what they are doing rather than those that don't.

[RientO]

..if what you say is true, why have my shares nose dived for the last three years? You know something the City doesn't?

Most shares have increased in the last three years. If yours have nosedived, you have the wrong ones.

FTSE100 (Up 18.2%)
6156 (20 May 2016)
7277 (24 May 2019)

FTSE250 (Up 13%)
16922 (20 May 2016)
19127 (24 May 2019)

[Long slender neck]

I’m surprised how many people still blame Thatcher for current problems. Its 27 years since she was ousted.

Go to the National Coal Mining museum if you want to learn more about her sins
Heart breaking stuff, whole communities and families destroyed, they won't ever forget

So you want to bring back coal?

[RientO]

BT one of the most successful companies in the world in the last 25 years . Didnt the Public used to own that ?

It isn't that successful. When floated its share price was 130p, today it is 196p. Chronic under performance.

And prior to privatisation there were huge waiting lists for new telephone lines as British Telecom could not cope. There were hundreds of thousands of people waiting for an ordinary telephone connection because only one company could do it. They would send out their employees when it suited them, rather when it suited you.

https://www.instituteforgovernment.org. ... sation.pdf

[tuffers#1]

BT one of the most successful companies in the world in the last 25 years . Didnt the Public used to own that ?

It isn't that successful. When floated its share price was 130p, today it is 196p. Chronic under performance.

And prior to privatisation there were huge waiting lists for new telephone lines as British Telecom could not cope. There were hundreds of thousands of people waiting for an ordinary telephone connection because only one company could do it. They would send out their employees when it suited them, rather when it suited you.

https://www.instituteforgovernment.org. ... sation.pdf

Global Services revenue fell 9% to £1.3bn while business and public sector revenue dropped 5% to £1.1bn and wholesale and ventures declined 4% to £506mln.

Revenue in the BT Consumer unit was flat at £1.2bn, though revenue generating units per customer increased 3% to 2.02 and average revenue per user (APRU) grew 5% to £41.3.

The company's EE mobile business achieved a 4% increase in revenue to £1.4bn.

BT’s network division Openreach delivered flat revenue at £1.3bn.

"BT’s acquisition of EE has given it a real presence in the world of 'quadruple play' that is mobile, internet, TV and fixed line and, in addition, this offering invites customer loyalty," said Richard Hunter, head of markets at Interactive Investor.

"Even so, the performance in the wholesale and Global Services divisions remains stagnant, whilst the pension situation is a concern."
Order intake increased 12% to £3.5bn for the business and public sector unit but fell 38% to £1.3bn for wholesale and ventures and dropped 25% to £3.7bn for Global Services with BT blaming difficult market conditions.

Capital expenditure rose 3% to £878mln as the company invested in launching new smartphones, including the new iPhone 8 and iPhone X.

APRU from customers on monthly mobile contracts fell 2% to £26.2. BT added 235,000 net mobile post-paid customers in the quarter with a churn of 1.2%.

Average BT Sport viewing increased 23%, marking the company’s best quarterly performance since it launched the TV service.


Seem to be doing pretty well to me

[one o in huntingdon]

BT one of the most successful companies in the world in the last 25 years . Didnt the Public used to own that ?

It isn't that successful. When floated its share price was 130p, today it is 196p. Chronic under performance.

And prior to privatisation there were huge waiting lists for new telephone lines as British Telecom could not cope. There were hundreds of thousands of people waiting for an ordinary telephone connection because only one company could do it. They would send out their employees when it suited them, rather when it suited you.

https://www.instituteforgovernment.org. ... sation.pdf

Global Services revenue fell 9% to £1.3bn while business and public sector revenue dropped 5% to £1.1bn and wholesale and ventures declined 4% to £506mln.

Revenue in the BT Consumer unit was flat at £1.2bn, though revenue generating units per customer increased 3% to 2.02 and average revenue per user (APRU) grew 5% to £41.3.

The company's EE mobile business achieved a 4% increase in revenue to £1.4bn.

BT’s network division Openreach delivered flat revenue at £1.3bn.

"BT’s acquisition of EE has given it a real presence in the world of 'quadruple play' that is mobile, internet, TV and fixed line and, in addition, this offering invites customer loyalty," said Richard Hunter, head of markets at Interactive Investor.

"Even so, the performance in the wholesale and Global Services divisions remains stagnant, whilst the pension situation is a concern."
Order intake increased 12% to £3.5bn for the business and public sector unit but fell 38% to £1.3bn for wholesale and ventures and dropped 25% to £3.7bn for Global Services with BT blaming difficult market conditions.

Capital expenditure rose 3% to £878mln as the company invested in launching new smartphones, including the new iPhone 8 and iPhone X.

APRU from customers on monthly mobile contracts fell 2% to £26.2. BT added 235,000 net mobile post-paid customers in the quarter with a churn of 1.2%.

Average BT Sport viewing increased 23%, marking the company’s best quarterly performance since it launched the TV service.


Seem to be doing pretty well to me

Not bad at all with having their hands tied for all those years by the government and its regulatory bodies.
I worked for them a total of nigh on forty years and saw exactly what went on when it came to competition.

[Lucky7]

I’m surprised how many people still blame Thatcher for current problems. Its 27 years since she was ousted.

Go to the National Coal Mining museum if you want to learn more about her sins
Heart breaking stuff, whole communities and families destroyed, they won't ever forget

So you want to bring back coal?

Joe Coal CDAJ In CM

[RientO]

Seem to be doing pretty well to me

What part of that is doing well? Flat and declining revenue?

[Still's Carenae]

BT one of the most successful companies in the world in the last 25 years . Didnt the Public used to own that ?

It isn't that successful. When floated its share price was 130p, today it is 196p. Chronic under performance.

And prior to privatisation there were huge waiting lists for new telephone lines as British Telecom could not cope. There were hundreds of thousands of people waiting for an ordinary telephone connection because only one company could do it. They would send out their employees when it suited them, rather when it suited you.

https://www.instituteforgovernment.org. ... sation.pdf

Yes it has underperformed massively since 2000 when it hit £15. But it's shateprice now is not taking into account dividends and the sale of O2(mMO2), which I think handed around £2.50 back to shareholders in 2002/4. Shows just how much management understood the potential.

Another poor management decision was by IBM, when they jettisoned Microsoft as they could not see the future value of more structured operating systems.

[RientO]

Yes it has underperformed massively since 2000 when it hit £15. But it's shateprice now is not taking into account dividends and the sale of O2(mMO2), which I think handed around £2.50 back to shareholders in 2002/4. Shows just how much management understood the potential.

BT has cut dividends this year, and in the last decade has been spending billions on acquisitions, increasing debt (some of it from the government) and not being particularly profitable. It is NOT one of the most successful companies in the world in the last 25 years.

[tuffers#1]

Seem to be doing pretty well to me

What part of that is doing well? Flat and declining revenue?

Another company sold off was B.P

"And the second place goes to The British Petroleum Company plc (BP). One of the richest multinational companies in the UK is renowned for exploration, distributions, power generation and trading of oil and gas minerals. It was founded 1909 by William Knox D’Arcy and currently, its revenue is estimated at over 303.73 billion. BP operates in over 70 countries and you can meet its brands such as Aral, Castrol, Amoco, Wild Bean Cafe or ampm. Next, to the raw minerals production, the company is one the sponsor of Red Bull Air Race, Renault F1 and the partner of International Paralympic Committee".

[EastDerehamO]

The basic problem is that politicians had become detached from their electorate over the EU. Post the 1983 election, when Labour’s manifesto policy was to withdraw from the EEC (as it was), there was no mainstream party for those who weren’t as sold on the ever closer union idea as the majority of MPs were. But out of that gap appeared UKIP.

Cameron will be judged poorly by history I suspect, in calling the referendum, and then ducking out of taking any responsibility for implementing the result, but at some point democracy was always going to catch up with where we were, and we’re still stuck in the quagmire.

[Leyton Green]

..if what you say is true, why have my shares nose dived for the last three years? You know something the City doesn't?

Most shares have increased in the last three years. If yours have nosedived, you have the wrong ones.

FTSE100 (Up 18.2%)
6156 (20 May 2016)
7277 (24 May 2019)

FTSE250 (Up 13%)
16922 (20 May 2016)
19127 (24 May 2019)

[StillSpike]

I dont think £ 2.4 million is the reason the NHS is in as much trouble as it is .

Maybe not but it would help. Same as saving on the salaries of the unnecessary non medical management and pen pushers.

I know it's a popular trope amongst those who seek to deflect from chronic underfunding of the NHS, but it seems there's not that many "non medical management and pen pushers" really. As you can see from the image below, only about 12% of fte are management and admin, which compares very well with all the Hotel companies that I've worked with and, I suspect, many other labour intensive industries.

[Howling Mad Murdock]

It’s his fault and his alone. Regardless of the result to stay or leave his awful idea of giving the uneducated and ill informed public the chance to vote on a subject no-one had a clue about (including most MPs) was a complete disaster. He has ripped this country apart, he has ruined a strong economy, a country that was respected globally and a pound that was still worth something. He spread fear on his failed campaign, rather than telling the truth and the benefits of staying. He lost on the biggest gamble of his life, didn’t like the result and threw his toys out his pram and left.

He walked out without even getting a kick up the arse. He is IMO worse than Farage, he is the one who should be strung up the nearest lamppost. He should be the one apologising for the disaster of the last 3 years and the turmoil to still come. Shame on Cameron, he is the true disaster of a PM.

[Esteban]

BT one of the most successful companies in the world in the last 25 years . Didnt the Public used to own that ?

It isn't that successful. When floated its share price was 130p, today it is 196p. Chronic under performance.

And prior to privatisation there were huge waiting lists for new telephone lines as British Telecom could not cope. There were hundreds of thousands of people waiting for an ordinary telephone connection because only one company could do it. They would send out their employees when it suited them, rather when it suited you.

https://www.instituteforgovernment.org. ... sation.pdf

Global Services revenue fell 9% to £1.3bn while business and public sector revenue dropped 5% to £1.1bn and wholesale and ventures declined 4% to £506mln.

Revenue in the BT Consumer unit was flat at £1.2bn, though revenue generating units per customer increased 3% to 2.02 and average revenue per user (APRU) grew 5% to £41.3.

The company's EE mobile business achieved a 4% increase in revenue to £1.4bn.

BT’s network division Openreach delivered flat revenue at £1.3bn.

"BT’s acquisition of EE has given it a real presence in the world of 'quadruple play' that is mobile, internet, TV and fixed line and, in addition, this offering invites customer loyalty," said Richard Hunter, head of markets at Interactive Investor.

"Even so, the performance in the wholesale and Global Services divisions remains stagnant, whilst the pension situation is a concern."
Order intake increased 12% to £3.5bn for the business and public sector unit but fell 38% to £1.3bn for wholesale and ventures and dropped 25% to £3.7bn for Global Services with BT blaming difficult market conditions.

Capital expenditure rose 3% to £878mln as the company invested in launching new smartphones, including the new iPhone 8 and iPhone X.

APRU from customers on monthly mobile contracts fell 2% to £26.2. BT added 235,000 net mobile post-paid customers in the quarter with a churn of 1.2%.

Average BT Sport viewing increased 23%, marking the company’s best quarterly performance since it launched the TV service.


Seem to be doing pretty well to me

And to think that I get accused of being boring on this board!

[Frogger]

So voting should only be for those who understand the issues! Jesus wept.

Majority of the public including myself did not fully understand what the implications were of leaving. The racists thought they would be able to ship foreigners out. The older generation thought it would be like the old days and we would rule the waves again and for the rest they thought jobs would be handed back to them. All the above was never going to happen, but thanks to Boris and Farage and their NHS bus of lies people voted for pie in the sky. We now are looking into the abyss without a f*cking clue of what is going to happen for our kids future but yeah glad we all got the vote... Jesus wept.

[tuffers#1]

It isn't that successful. When floated its share price was 130p, today it is 196p. Chronic under performance.

And prior to privatisation there were huge waiting lists for new telephone lines as British Telecom could not cope. There were hundreds of thousands of people waiting for an ordinary telephone connection because only one company could do it. They would send out their employees when it suited them, rather when it suited you.

https://www.instituteforgovernment.org. ... sation.pdf

Global Services revenue fell 9% to £1.3bn while business and public sector revenue dropped 5% to £1.1bn and wholesale and ventures declined 4% to £506mln.

Revenue in the BT Consumer unit was flat at £1.2bn, though revenue generating units per customer increased 3% to 2.02 and average revenue per user (APRU) grew 5% to £41.3.

The company's EE mobile business achieved a 4% increase in revenue to £1.4bn.

BT’s network division Openreach delivered flat revenue at £1.3bn.

"BT’s acquisition of EE has given it a real presence in the world of 'quadruple play' that is mobile, internet, TV and fixed line and, in addition, this offering invites customer loyalty," said Richard Hunter, head of markets at Interactive Investor.

"Even so, the performance in the wholesale and Global Services divisions remains stagnant, whilst the pension situation is a concern."
Order intake increased 12% to £3.5bn for the business and public sector unit but fell 38% to £1.3bn for wholesale and ventures and dropped 25% to £3.7bn for Global Services with BT blaming difficult market conditions.

Capital expenditure rose 3% to £878mln as the company invested in launching new smartphones, including the new iPhone 8 and iPhone X.

APRU from customers on monthly mobile contracts fell 2% to £26.2. BT added 235,000 net mobile post-paid customers in the quarter with a churn of 1.2%.

Average BT Sport viewing increased 23%, marking the company’s best quarterly performance since it launched the TV service.


Seem to be doing pretty well to me

And to think that I get accused of being boring on this board!

No, you get accused of being a pest & people get bored with you.

Information may be boring , lifes a bitch eh .

[one o in huntingdon]

So voting should only be for those who understand the issues! Jesus wept.

Majority of the public including myself did not fully understand what the implications were of leaving. The racists thought they would be able to ship foreigners out. The older generation thought it would be like the old days and we would rule the waves again and for the rest they thought jobs would be handed back to them. All the above was never going to happen, but thanks to Boris and Farage and their NHS bus of lies people voted for pie in the sky. We now are looking into the abyss without a f*cking clue of what is going to happen for our kids future but yeah glad we all got the vote... Jesus wept.

This is similar to complex fraud trials when the common person has no idea of the complexities involved.
In those cases it was considered to be beyond the understanding of a regular jury and dealt with by judges well versed in such matters.
We should never have been asked to decide on the EU question, when we were there should have been a preset threshold.
Same as that so beloved by certain Tories to enable industrial action to take place

[spen666]

How dare Cameron let the British public make decisions about their future.

Democracy is about stopping people having choices and stopping them having any say in their future ....

[Frogger]

How dare Cameron let the British public make decisions about their future.

Democracy is about stopping people having choices and stopping them having any say in their future ....

It’s a good point but when not many people had a clue and that is a fact what Brexit meant we should not have voted without the full facts being given to us all.
Maybe just me but I like to get the full picture and all sides before making a major decision on my future and my families, but yeah let’s vote anyway f*** it, what’s the worst that could happen????