The trans debate

[tuffers#1]

Absolutely nothing.

How would you feel if they said they were depressed &
felt suicidal , but couldnt tell you why ?

How are the two things linked?

If a child isnt sure what it is , then surely
the child could become suicidal because of it .

If it was a physical gene muck up like a hair lip
then it would get dealt with medically would it not ?

If it was an x y gene muck up it would just be left to
deal with it .

[Beradogs]

If my 8-year-old child came to me and said they thought they were the wrong gender/in the wrong body I'd tell them to stop consuming whatever brainwashing sh*t was making them believe that, because no child would genuinely come up with that idea by themselves

Kind of agree. All this is down to age. At 8 i could barely tie my own shoe laces. I would not have had the first clue there was even such a thing as trans or different genders. At that age it is learnt behaviour only and I would also ask them or speak to the school about where they are getting this information from. 11+ it’s a different story.

[Long slender neck]

How would you feel if they said they were depressed &
felt suicidal , but couldnt tell you why ?

How are the two things linked?

If a child isnt sure what it is , then surely
the child could become suicidal because of it .

If it was a physical gene muck up like a hair lip
then it would get dealt with medically would it not ?

If it was an x y gene muck up it would just be left to
deal with it .

Any evidence being trans is a 'genetic muck up'?

What other genetic muckups would you cure medically?

[tuffers#1]

How are the two things linked?

If a child isnt sure what it is , then surely
the child could become suicidal because of it .

If it was a physical gene muck up like a hair lip
then it would get dealt with medically would it not ?

If it was an x y gene muck up it would just be left to
deal with it .

Any evidence being trans is a 'genetic muck up'?

What other genetic muckups would you cure medically?

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-re ... ead-tumors

1 or 2 here for you moderator .

Or do we have to go through the whole
Mokgadi Caster Semenya  thing again ?

Finally , you do know all human embryos ( eggs)
Start out as female dont you .

https://www.sciencealert.com/watch-we-w ... all-female

[Sid Bishop]

If a child isnt sure what it is , then surely
the child could become suicidal because of it .

If it was a physical gene muck up like a hair lip
then it would get dealt with medically would it not ?

If it was an x y gene muck up it would just be left to
deal with it .

Any evidence being trans is a 'genetic muck up'?

What other genetic muckups would you cure medically?

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-re ... ead-tumors

1 or 2 here for you moderator .

Or do we have to go through the whole
Mokgadi Caster Semenya  thing again ?

Finally , you do know all human embryos ( eggs)
Start out as female dont you .

https://www.sciencealert.com/watch-we-w ... all-female

@tuffers
Yes agree with you that this transgender issue is not as straight forward as some might like to think. From my experiences in life, I do not believe for one minute that It is just down to children and young people watching videos and reading articles on the internet. Here is an interesting link
Gender: When the body and brain disagree. Researchers are trying to unravel the tangled roots of gender identity.
https://www.sciencenewsforstudents.org/ ... n-disagree

[Max B Gold]

If my 8-year-old child came to me and said they thought they were the wrong gender/in the wrong body I'd tell them to stop consuming whatever brainwashing sh*t was making them believe that, because no child would genuinely come up with that idea by themselves

Kind of agree. All this is down to age. At 8 i could barely tie my own shoe laces. I would not have had the first clue there was even such a thing as trans or different genders. At that age it is learnt behaviour only and I would also ask them or speak to the school about where they are getting this information from. 11+ it’s a different story.

Yes that's the spirit. Sweep it all under the carpet and pretend it doesn't exist because you don't have an ounce of humanity in you that would allow you to think that maybe everyone just isn't the same as youse. Morons.

[tuffers#1]

Any evidence being trans is a 'genetic muck up'?

What other genetic muckups would you cure medically?

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-re ... ead-tumors

1 or 2 here for you moderator .

Or do we have to go through the whole
Mokgadi Caster Semenya  thing again ?

Finally , you do know all human embryos ( eggs)
Start out as female dont you .

https://www.sciencealert.com/watch-we-w ... all-female

@tuffers
Yes agree with you that this transgender issue is not as straight forward as some might like to think. From my experiences in life, I do not believe for one minute that It is just down to children and young people watching videos and reading articles on the internet. Here is an interesting link
Gender: When the body and brain disagree. Researchers are trying to unravel the tangled roots of gender identity.
https://www.sciencenewsforstudents.org/ ... n-disagree

I have a gene defect myself .
X-linked Ichthyosis , a chronic skin condition ,
Female y carries it, male x gets it .

I have done a hell of a lot of research in the last few years with regards
To genetic profiles ,
1 recent discovery which i found out about through Cardiff University
Is the lack of the STS Gene common in x-linked sufferers. Which is important in brain development.

Sts is also missing from many who have autism.
When i was a baby being treated for something different
The specialist at The Royal Victoria suggested i may be on the autistic spectrum.

People who know me would laugh at that, but ive worked very hard at being around people .

[Sid Bishop]

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-re ... ead-tumors

1 or 2 here for you moderator .

Or do we have to go through the whole
Mokgadi Caster Semenya  thing again ?

Finally , you do know all human embryos ( eggs)
Start out as female dont you .

https://www.sciencealert.com/watch-we-w ... all-female

@tuffers
Yes agree with you that this transgender issue is not as straight forward as some might like to think. From my experiences in life, I do not believe for one minute that It is just down to children and young people watching videos and reading articles on the internet. Here is an interesting link
Gender: When the body and brain disagree. Researchers are trying to unravel the tangled roots of gender identity.
https://www.sciencenewsforstudents.org/ ... n-disagree

I have a gene defect myself .
X-linked Ichthyosis , a chronic skin condition ,
Female y carries it, male x gets it .

I have done a hell of a lot of research in the last few years with regards
To genetic profiles ,
1 recent discovery which i found out about through Cardiff University
Is the lack of the STS Gene common in x-linked sufferers. Which is important in brain development.

Sts is also missing from many who have autism.
When i was a baby being treated for something different
The specialist at Thr Royal Victoria suggested i may be on the autistic spectrum.

People who know me would laugh at that, but ive worked very hard at being around people .

Some of the most intelligent people ever, both past and present have got brilliant brains mainly because they tend to think differently to others. Commonly known as being able to ''think outside of the box''

''I was diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome, OCD and selective mutism. That basically means I only speak when I think it's necessary. Now is one of those moments. — Greta Thunberg, Stockholm, November 2018''

[tuffers#1]

@tuffers
Yes agree with you that this transgender issue is not as straight forward as some might like to think. From my experiences in life, I do not believe for one minute that It is just down to children and young people watching videos and reading articles on the internet. Here is an interesting link
Gender: When the body and brain disagree. Researchers are trying to unravel the tangled roots of gender identity.
https://www.sciencenewsforstudents.org/ ... n-disagree

I have a gene defect myself .
X-linked Ichthyosis , a chronic skin condition ,
Female y carries it, male x gets it .

I have done a hell of a lot of research in the last few years with regards
To genetic profiles ,
1 recent discovery which i found out about through Cardiff University
Is the lack of the STS Gene common in x-linked sufferers. Which is important in brain development.

Sts is also missing from many who have autism.
When i was a baby being treated for something different
The specialist at Thr Royal Victoria suggested i may be on the autistic spectrum.

People who know me would laugh at that, but ive worked very hard at being around people .

Some of the most intelligent people ever, both past and present have got brilliant brains mainly because they tend to think differently to others. Commonly known as being able to ''think outside of the box''

''I was diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome, OCD and selective mutism. That basically means I only speak when I think it's necessary. Now is one of those moments. — Greta Thunberg, Stockholm, November 2018''

Its not an accident that the most intelligent people , would be looked
Upon as " a bit different " .
BTW i am not putting myself near that category !

[Ornchurch]

If my 8-year-old child came to me and said they thought they were the wrong gender/in the wrong body I'd tell them to stop consuming whatever brainwashing sh*t was making them believe that, because no child would genuinely come up with that idea by themselves

How about if your 10 year old child came to you and said they thought they were gay?

Nothing. I'd hope they would grow out of it.

[Long slender neck]

If a child isnt sure what it is , then surely
the child could become suicidal because of it .

If it was a physical gene muck up like a hair lip
then it would get dealt with medically would it not ?

If it was an x y gene muck up it would just be left to
deal with it .

Any evidence being trans is a 'genetic muck up'?

What other genetic muckups would you cure medically?

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-re ... ead-tumors

1 or 2 here for you moderator .

Or do we have to go through the whole
Mokgadi Caster Semenya  thing again ?

Finally , you do know all human embryos ( eggs)
Start out as female dont you .

https://www.sciencealert.com/watch-we-w ... all-female

Its time for Tuffers' random copy and paste of the day!

What have tumours got to do with anything?

[tuffers#1]

Any evidence being trans is a 'genetic muck up'?

What other genetic muckups would you cure medically?

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-re ... ead-tumors

1 or 2 here for you moderator .

Or do we have to go through the whole
Mokgadi Caster Semenya  thing again ?

Finally , you do know all human embryos ( eggs)
Start out as female dont you .

https://www.sciencealert.com/watch-we-w ... all-female

Its time for Tuffers' random copy and paste of the day!

What have tumours got to do with anything?

If you bothered to read the link & think ,
You might learn what genetic defects can do

[Long slender neck]

I'm not going to waste my time reading your irrelevant links.

[tuffers#1]

Good 4 you .
Far to much nonsense to indulge in

[Adz]

If my 8-year-old child came to me and said they thought they were the wrong gender/in the wrong body I'd tell them to stop consuming whatever brainwashing sh*t was making them believe that, because no child would genuinely come up with that idea by themselves

Kind of agree. All this is down to age. At 8 i could barely tie my own shoe laces. I would not have had the first clue there was even such a thing as trans or different genders. At that age it is learnt behaviour only and I would also ask them or speak to the school about where they are getting this information from. 11+ it’s a different story.

You didn't know about it because it wasn't an issue for you. Kids are very aware of gender and gender expectations, if you don't match with others it is very obvious to them, even if they don't know why. It is our responsibility to make them feel safe and welcome regardless

[Long slender neck]

So how do you explain the explosion in referrals to this clinic? Believe it's gone from double figures to four figures a year.

[Currywurst and Chips]

There's gender roles then there's pumping hormones into children

I wanted a polly pocket and one of them babies that ate the food when I was a kid. Thankfully my parents didn't take the illogical next step of blocking my puberty

[Mick McQuaid]

So how do you explain the explosion in referrals to this clinic? Believe it's gone from double figures to four figures a year.

I would think mainly that in general people are becoming much more accepting that it's an issue that needs support and the idea and the idea that it's best to tell your kid to shiut up and sign them up for a rugby club is slowly on the decline.

Also, if you have any understanding of maths you'd consider the relevance of exponential growth from such a low starting point and look at prevalence instead, which shows that 0.01% of the child population are referred to a gender identity service.

[Mick McQuaid]

There's gender roles then there's pumping hormones into children

I wanted a polly pocket and one of them babies that ate the food when I was a kid. Thankfully my parents didn't take the illogical next step of blocking my puberty

Little known fact, but there's two doors at the front of the Tavistock, one with a pink handle and one that's blue. There's anaesthetists hiding behind the door and any girl that goes though the blue door has a needle in her arm and her fanny sucked inside out before she can blink. That's what I heard.

[Currywurst and Chips]

There's gender roles then there's pumping hormones into children

I wanted a polly pocket and one of them babies that ate the food when I was a kid. Thankfully my parents didn't take the illogical next step of blocking my puberty

Little known fact, but there's two doors at the front of the Tavistock, one with a pink handle and one that's blue. There's anaesthetists hiding behind the door and any girl that goes though the blue door has a needle in her arm and her fanny sucked inside out before she can blink. That's what I heard.

Cheers for indulging.

I'm enjoying your replies becoming more unhinged as the thread progresses

[BIGRON]

There's gender roles then there's pumping hormones into children

I wanted a polly pocket and one of them babies that ate the food when I was a kid. Thankfully my parents didn't take the illogical next step of blocking my puberty

Little known fact, but there's two doors at the front of the Tavistock, one with a pink handle and one that's blue. There's anaesthetists hiding behind the door and any girl that goes though the blue door has a needle in her arm and her fanny sucked inside out before she can blink. That's what I heard.

[Long slender neck]

So how do you explain the explosion in referrals to this clinic? Believe it's gone from double figures to four figures a year.

I would think mainly that in general people are becoming much more accepting that it's an issue that needs support and the idea and the idea that it's best to tell your kid to shiut up and sign them up for a rugby club is slowly on the decline.

Also, if you have any understanding of maths you'd consider the relevance of exponential growth from such a low starting point and look at prevalence instead, which shows that 0.01% of the child population are referred to a gender identity service.

People may be accepting it but it doesn't make it right, even in such small numbers.

One problem is that parents are powerless whether they are accepting or not.

[BoniO]

There's gender roles then there's pumping hormones into children

I wanted a polly pocket and one of them babies that ate the food when I was a kid. Thankfully my parents didn't take the illogical next step of blocking my puberty

Little known fact, but there's two doors at the front of the Tavistock, one with a pink handle and one that's blue. There's anaesthetists hiding behind the door and any girl that goes though the blue door has a needle in her arm and her fanny sucked inside out before she can blink. That's what I heard.

Cheers for indulging.

I'm enjoying your replies becoming more unhinged as the thread progresses

I think MM has just realised who he's communicating with tbh.

[Disoriented]

Little known fact, but there's two doors at the front of the Tavistock, one with a pink handle and one that's blue. There's anaesthetists hiding behind the door and any girl that goes though the blue door has a needle in her arm and her fanny sucked inside out before she can blink. That's what I heard.

Cheers for indulging.

I'm enjoying your replies becoming more unhinged as the thread progresses

I think MM has just realised who he's communicating with tbh.

Yes, an unemployed failed ‘journalist’ reduced to creating WUMS on a League 2 MB.

[Currywurst and Chips]

Little known fact, but there's two doors at the front of the Tavistock, one with a pink handle and one that's blue. There's anaesthetists hiding behind the door and any girl that goes though the blue door has a needle in her arm and her fanny sucked inside out before she can blink. That's what I heard.

Cheers for indulging.

I'm enjoying your replies becoming more unhinged as the thread progresses

I think MM has just realised who he's communicating with tbh.

A legend of this board?